n2skdvn 0 #1 February 21, 2003 pray for the injured and dead.... [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79161,00.htmlQuote not making any judgements at this time..... --if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #2 February 21, 2003 Horrific, more than half the occupants were casualties. I thought you guys had quite strict building codes and fire standards to meet...NFPA etc. Clearly they either don't work, or were being flouted?Thoughts with the victims and their loved ones. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbrian 0 #3 February 21, 2003 clicky In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #4 February 21, 2003 From the reports that I've seen this morning, the building did not have any sprinklers, nor were they required to with the state building codes with the type of building that it was. Me thinks they need to review those codes. In addition, it's not known yet if they had a permit to do pyrotechnics in there. They said all 4 exit doors were working, but due to human nature, most tried to leave out the front the way they came in. One guy said very few people were even coming out one of the doors he was at. Very, very sad.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trevor 0 #5 February 21, 2003 Something to think about- when they do a side door exit on a C-130 in the Army, they allow about 1 second per jumper, and if you've even seen a video of it, they are right on eachother's asses going out the door. That night club had 4 doors for 200-300 people. If you were the 50th or 100th person rushing the exit, you would have to survive for a minute or two. The news camera that caught the ignition and evacuation showed it was out of control in seconds. Hard to hold your breathe when you are panicking. Very sad story. I used to party in Providence, Kingston, and Warwick in the mid-90s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverbrian 0 #6 February 21, 2003 I never have liked large crowds of people. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverdriver 7 #7 February 21, 2003 These buildings might consider doing an emergency door briefing like we do on an airplane. You obviously have to fight human nature to go out the way you came in. Kind of a kill joy to a party or concert but we can see what the alternative is. Condolences to all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RevJim 0 #8 February 21, 2003 Quote I never have liked large crowds of people. I agree. 15-20 packed like sardines is good enough for me, especially if I get to watch the 'sweet spot'. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #9 February 21, 2003 Quotethe building did not have any sprinklers, nor were they required to with the state building codes Most places i know have to follow the codes that were in place when you build the place. The only time you re required to update is if you change the use of the building. what a sad thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 February 21, 2003 Unbelievable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jessd 0 #11 February 21, 2003 It is so sad. I saw this in the local news this morning while I was heading out to work. I have been to this place many times. They always had real fun shows there. My heart goes out the families of those involved. "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #12 February 21, 2003 latest count is 54 dead, many in hospital in serious and critical condition with major burns. cnn story. very sad."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KawiZX900 0 #13 February 21, 2003 they were at a (Great White) concert. Now this is only speculation, but perhaps they deserved to die. 150 less Great White fans can't be a bad thing, can it? I kid, I kid. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #14 February 21, 2003 Were they singing "Once bitten twice shy"? __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jessd 0 #15 February 21, 2003 I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who was at the show. Thankfully he made it out in time. He has some second degrees burns on his face and on his arm. Whew, my heart is still racing. I got a call from his roomate saying that he went. Took me nearly an hour to get a hold of him to see if he was okay. He said it was absolutely a horrific scence. I only wish that others were as lucky as him to get out in time. "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #16 February 21, 2003 one of the missing is a guitar player for the band"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #17 February 21, 2003 death toll up to 65... it just keeps getting worse... cnn story"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tb62871 0 #18 February 21, 2003 yet another sad tragedy. I'm still waiting to find out if any of my friends were there. --TB Welcome my friends to the show that never ends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #19 February 21, 2003 quite possibly some of the pyro got into the bands hairspray supply.. yet another reason not to go see a poser Glam band.. ------------------------ seriously condolonces to all involved..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites payback462 0 #20 February 21, 2003 86 dead now. i think ill stick to safer hobbies, like skydiving, and playing in traffic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites indyz 1 #21 February 21, 2003 From the irony department, the camera crew that got all of the video was there doing a story about safety in clubs after the tragedy in Chicago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jessd 0 #22 February 22, 2003 The death toll is now at 95. I just spoke with my friend again and he started telling me about what he saw happen. Absolutely horrible. I can't even begin to imagine what it must have been like. Events like this really make you think - at least they make me think. I'm going to go hang out with him and his girlfriend tonight and give him the biggest hug that I can and let him know just how much I love him. 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nacmacfeegle 0 #2 February 21, 2003 Horrific, more than half the occupants were casualties. I thought you guys had quite strict building codes and fire standards to meet...NFPA etc. Clearly they either don't work, or were being flouted?Thoughts with the victims and their loved ones. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #3 February 21, 2003 clicky In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #4 February 21, 2003 From the reports that I've seen this morning, the building did not have any sprinklers, nor were they required to with the state building codes with the type of building that it was. Me thinks they need to review those codes. In addition, it's not known yet if they had a permit to do pyrotechnics in there. They said all 4 exit doors were working, but due to human nature, most tried to leave out the front the way they came in. One guy said very few people were even coming out one of the doors he was at. Very, very sad.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor 0 #5 February 21, 2003 Something to think about- when they do a side door exit on a C-130 in the Army, they allow about 1 second per jumper, and if you've even seen a video of it, they are right on eachother's asses going out the door. That night club had 4 doors for 200-300 people. If you were the 50th or 100th person rushing the exit, you would have to survive for a minute or two. The news camera that caught the ignition and evacuation showed it was out of control in seconds. Hard to hold your breathe when you are panicking. Very sad story. I used to party in Providence, Kingston, and Warwick in the mid-90s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbrian 0 #6 February 21, 2003 I never have liked large crowds of people. In a world full of people, only some want to fly... isn't that crazy! --Seal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #7 February 21, 2003 These buildings might consider doing an emergency door briefing like we do on an airplane. You obviously have to fight human nature to go out the way you came in. Kind of a kill joy to a party or concert but we can see what the alternative is. Condolences to all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #8 February 21, 2003 Quote I never have liked large crowds of people. I agree. 15-20 packed like sardines is good enough for me, especially if I get to watch the 'sweet spot'. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #9 February 21, 2003 Quotethe building did not have any sprinklers, nor were they required to with the state building codes Most places i know have to follow the codes that were in place when you build the place. The only time you re required to update is if you change the use of the building. what a sad thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 February 21, 2003 Unbelievable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jessd 0 #11 February 21, 2003 It is so sad. I saw this in the local news this morning while I was heading out to work. I have been to this place many times. They always had real fun shows there. My heart goes out the families of those involved. "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #12 February 21, 2003 latest count is 54 dead, many in hospital in serious and critical condition with major burns. cnn story. very sad."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #13 February 21, 2003 they were at a (Great White) concert. Now this is only speculation, but perhaps they deserved to die. 150 less Great White fans can't be a bad thing, can it? I kid, I kid. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #14 February 21, 2003 Were they singing "Once bitten twice shy"? __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jessd 0 #15 February 21, 2003 I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who was at the show. Thankfully he made it out in time. He has some second degrees burns on his face and on his arm. Whew, my heart is still racing. I got a call from his roomate saying that he went. Took me nearly an hour to get a hold of him to see if he was okay. He said it was absolutely a horrific scence. I only wish that others were as lucky as him to get out in time. "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #16 February 21, 2003 one of the missing is a guitar player for the band"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #17 February 21, 2003 death toll up to 65... it just keeps getting worse... cnn story"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tb62871 0 #18 February 21, 2003 yet another sad tragedy. I'm still waiting to find out if any of my friends were there. --TB Welcome my friends to the show that never ends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #19 February 21, 2003 quite possibly some of the pyro got into the bands hairspray supply.. yet another reason not to go see a poser Glam band.. ------------------------ seriously condolonces to all involved..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
payback462 0 #20 February 21, 2003 86 dead now. i think ill stick to safer hobbies, like skydiving, and playing in traffic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #21 February 21, 2003 From the irony department, the camera crew that got all of the video was there doing a story about safety in clubs after the tragedy in Chicago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jessd 0 #22 February 22, 2003 The death toll is now at 95. I just spoke with my friend again and he started telling me about what he saw happen. Absolutely horrible. I can't even begin to imagine what it must have been like. Events like this really make you think - at least they make me think. I'm going to go hang out with him and his girlfriend tonight and give him the biggest hug that I can and let him know just how much I love him. "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
