quade 4 #1 February 20, 2003 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=91&u=/bpihw/20030220/en_bpihw/sheen_leads_antiwar_forces&printer=1 Quote LOS ANGELES (The Hollywood Reporter) --- Martin Sheen is about to become the face of the Hollywood antiwar movement. Sheen has cut a TV commercial in which he implores: "Don't invade Iraq. Inspections work; war won't." The ad is set to begin a one-week run today -- initially on CNN, MSNBC and CNN Headline News. An effort bankrolled by the groups Win Without War and MoveOn.org, the ad was unveiled at a West Hollywood hotel Wednesday, where Sheen was accompanied by many of his "West Wing" co-stars and Anjelica Huston, Janeane Garofalo and Mike Farrell. The Sheen commercial advertises what Win Without War is calling a "virtual march on Washington." Scheduled for Wednesday, the virtual march asks Americans to use e-mail, fax machines and telephones to get their antiwar messages to legislators that day. A visit to www.MoveOn.org makes the task easier. Hollywood's political activism of late has been well documented in the press, as many celebrities have turned award ceremonies and film festivals into antiwar rallies. Some have suggested that the most vocal of the activist celebrities face a potential backlash. Sean Penn (news) has claimed he lost a role because of his fact-finding mission to Baghdad, an effort that many Americans have deemed unpatriotic. Reporters at the unveiling of Sheen's commercial Wednesday also broached the subject. "There's already a backlash," Farrell said, dismissing it as an "organized attempt by the right wing." Garofalo said a backlash against antiwar celebrities is a creation of the media, which purposely focuses its attention on Hollywood activists in order to marginalize the peace movement. In a radio interview Wednesday with the BBC, in fact, Garofalo asked that she not be introduced as an actor or celebrity but as a member of the U.S. antiwar movement. "It's such a divisive thing," she said. "The term 'celebrity' makes my skin crawl." According to an E-poll survey obtained exclusively by The Hollywood Reporter, 44% of Americans said they might not pay to see a politically active celebrity with whom they disagree. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #2 February 20, 2003 I think Sheen has taken his West Wing role a little too seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 February 20, 2003 Just because Sheen plays a President on TV doesn't mean he's not entitled to an opinion and don't blame the guy just because he makes a better President on TV than the one that lives at 1600. Forget the hook on this story for a moment, the Sheen connection, because that's all it is -- a way to hook you in. Focus on the actual eProtest for a second. Does anyone think this is a viable form of protest OR will it be seen as a terrorist attack (via denial of service) as defined by the telecommunications act and TSA?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #4 February 20, 2003 i think they'd have a hard time justifying it as a "denial of Services" since it isnt one (or a few) sources flooding their networks with data to cause a blockage, but a large number of people legitimately attempting contact in order to express their disproval. all at the same time. the problem with celebrity spokes people for any cause is that their opinion is often given more weight than an actual experts simply because their face is more recognizable. and in a democracy its not the quality of your opinion that matters, but the number of people who agree with you (informed or not)____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #5 February 20, 2003 QuoteI think Sheen has taken his West Wing role a little too seriously. Entertainers are nothing but overpaid organ grinder monkeys, who should been seen and not heard."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #6 February 20, 2003 Does any intelligent person really give a shit about the opinions of celebrities? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #7 February 20, 2003 >Does any intelligent person really give a shit about the opinions of celebrities? No more or less so than the opinion of anyone else. They're just people with opinions; the US is full of opinionated people, and at least here, their right to blather on about whatever they want is protected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #8 February 20, 2003 QuoteDoes any intelligent person really give a shit about the opinions of celebrities? no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 February 20, 2003 QuoteEntertainers are nothing but overpaid organ grinder monkeys, who should been seen and not heard. Ya mean like Ronald Reagan(r), Fred Thompson(r), Sonny Bono(r) and Mary(r) his wife that took office after his death, Fred Grandy(r) . . . notice a trend here? Democrats may have actor/activists, but the Republicans actually put them into office!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivaSkyChick 0 #10 February 20, 2003 Quote Democrates may have actor/activists, but the Republicans actually put them into office! LOL I never thought of that! --- www.facebook.com/mandyhamptonfitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 February 20, 2003 QuoteI never thought of that! Then my job here is done.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivaSkyChick 0 #12 February 20, 2003 --- www.facebook.com/mandyhamptonfitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 February 20, 2003 Quote>Does any intelligent person really give a shit about the opinions of celebrities? No more or less so than the opinion of anyone else. I disagree. I believe firmly that Amerians are obsessed with the opinions of celebrity, you only have to look at the once popular show "Politically Incorrect", which was a political talk show where the commentary came from hollywood. Before that show shot itself in the foot, it was one of the most highest rated current events shows. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 February 20, 2003 Quote . . . which was a political talk show where the commentary came from hollywood. Not just from Hollywood and not as much commentary as dissent -- more like dysentery. Anyway, the point is that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but only a few people on the planet are worth looking at for a half-hour or so before you nod off to sleep at night. Lemme tell you, I'd rather watch Angie Everhart spout off about John Walker Lindh than watch Strom Thrumon talk about anything and I believe THAT is why Politically Incorrect was so popular.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #15 February 20, 2003 >I disagree. I believe firmly that Amerians are obsessed with the opinions of celebrity . . . Perhaps, but "any american" does not neccessarily equal "any intelligent person." And indeed some TV or movie personalities are pretty sharp; watch any interview with Terry Gilliam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #16 February 20, 2003 Don't post, JP, don't do it.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17 February 21, 2003 Get your mind out of the gutter boy -- the only reason I think she's interesting is that she's a skydiver (yeah right).quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #18 February 21, 2003 QuoteGet your mind out of the gutter boy -- the only reason I think she's interesting is that she's a skydiver (yeah right). of course not..it's because shes a Redhead____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #19 February 21, 2003 Her?! Oh. No. I was concerned about your preoccupation with the old guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #20 February 21, 2003 QuoteDemocrats may have actor/activists, but the Republicans actually put them into office! one of those got us out of the "Carter mess". You remember 18% interest for a mortgage. Military that was with out funding. the only one worse for them was Clinton. you forgot one, Clint Eastwood. But how many of those are extremist wackos.... none, look at Jane Fonda, there is a real patriot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #21 February 21, 2003 QuoteBut how many of those are extremist wackos.... Ever notice that only the "other" side has extremists? To paraphrase, "One man's extremist wacko, is another man's President".quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #22 February 21, 2003 QuoteNo more or less so than the opinion of anyone else. They're just people with opinions I would ammend this by saying: they're just people with opinions and no more access to information than you and I. But they have an extreme amount of access to the media that allows their opinions to be heard. That makes them different. They are entertainers. When on TV they should be juggling and throwing knives not pushing their political agenda. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #23 February 21, 2003 QuoteThey are entertainers. When on TV they should be juggling and throwing knives not pushing their political agenda. If that were applied evenly to all sides (Jane Fonda and Charlton Heston for instance) then I might begin to agree, but my guess is that just about everyone would like to keep their own spokespeople and flush the opposing side's.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #24 February 21, 2003 Quote Jane Fonda and Charlton Heston I'm not a fan of either's political agenda so I think we should apply it to both sides. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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