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Hey Guy:

I agree with some of the posts on here. The one I most agree with is that you are wasting waaaay to much energy on this. I mean reading e-mails and thinking of getting a spy program. I mean common now.

If you cannot trust her to be out with other guys then the relationship was not meant to be. Like another reply stated she had a life before you. It might have been a good time in her life but should clearly be in the past.

I mean I have hung out with some of the women I was intimate with. We knew that there was nothing in the present though. It was something that was good at the time we were together. Things change and people change therefore things cannot be the way they were.

Your decision but it sounds as if you are spending way too much time and energy stressing over this. Life is too short. Take it from someone who has sat at the table with the GRIM REAPER more times than I care to count.

Finally, Have you ever jumped at Skydive Opelika? I mean you live in Auburn? Small DZ but Loads of fun. Laters!

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Yes. You are a cop.



Yup,,, & I've tried to deny it it! But denying it falls on deaf ears as much her whining about how I can't prove anything ...UGH!!! Grrrr!!!!



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at least thats not how Landmark markets themselves?


Landmark markets themselves? Oh, you mean by having participants do the hard sell on friends and family...

Regardless of how I feel about their "marketing", I did the Forum back in 2001 and got a lot out of it. You'd likely be surprised how many skydivers - big name, high echelon, top competitors - have done at least the Forum, if not the Advanced course and lots of seminars (Dr. John comes to mind). There's a lot in the Landmark curriculum that can be applied directly to skydiving...

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"and I saw an email from the guy that basically said that there would have to be no strings attached and that they should meet."



Okay what about this scenario -"Sure, I'd love to see you but I want you to know up front that I have a boyfriend now so nothing is going to happen"

His response? "No problem, it's just been awhile since we hung out, love to meet up with you, no strings attached."

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Exactly. So what's the mystery here? Chop.

I ask to expand upon this because this makes it apparent that there has already been conversation in regards to having sex. Are there any clues one way or the other? It doesn't seem like it's the guy making a suggestion out of the blue. Whether or not the act was committed is moot. The intention was there for her and that's the betrayal. Move on to girls with more class.
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His response? "No problem, it's just been awhile since we hung out, love to meet up with you, no strings attached."



Good point but who says "no strings attached" without meaning sex? It's practicallly universal.

About life being short. Yup, too short to waste on girls and friends you can't trust. Don't get pissed about it just don't invest.

Edit: I've known of people who've gone into marriages after cheating or being cheated on...really, call me old fashioned but as much as you may care for that person and want to work it out there are always someone else you find. The proof is that your significant other has just done just that.

But...you may be blowing this out of proportion. Give it some time.
"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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WHOA, Whoa... look! I'm sorry if I gave Landmark a bad-rap impression, I did the the forum, the advanced course and I'm (since we're on the subject) looking at doing the new course... It is an awesome for-some emporium for self-awareness, [blah,blah]

I totally respect the people that work keeping it alive and thriving!!!!

BUT SHE GOT ME INTO IT!!! So I am a little bitter, please excuse me!! :( How's that for a testimonial!!

(check back w/me when I get back to my true possibilities!)

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His response? "No problem, it's just been awhile since we hung out, love to meet up with you, no strings attached."



YEAH! HOW 'BOUT THEM APPLES!

I swear.


Bwaaahaa. A guy says to a girl, "I called you up to hang out, but I want to make it clear that there will be no sex! Don't expect anything from me! No strings attached." It could happen. :ph34r: "Those are my rules, no expectations of sex."

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It is an awesome for-some emporium for self-awareness, [blah,blah]


A couple of my friends did that course last year. They loved it. I attended their "community event" at the end of their course and was very tempted to do it myself - either that or the Advanced course... but we all know where I work, ain't no way I can afford either one. ;)
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check back w/me when I get back to my true possibilities!


I'll hold you to that. :ph34r:

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A good friend will come bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "That was fucking awesome."



Cool sig line. Brings back some memories.



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Okay what about this scenario -"Sure, I'd love to see you but I want you to know up front that I have a boyfriend now so nothing is going to happen"

His response? "No problem, it's just been awhile since we hung out, love to meet up with you, no strings attached."



Ok, So, Whats the problem with [her] telling (new boyfriend) that, "I had this conversation with this [him] x-boyfriend.. and anyway, that there are no strings attached but I'd really like to meet with him?" and then she says, "Now, I told him I have a boyfriend (intonation excluded) and that nothing is going to happen."

GEEZ! lock me out, fork me, but c'mon!!!!!! >:(

UGH!! bye....

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Maybe I should have been clearer...I was trying to see if the auburn email system was down...her and my passwords are the same(mine is different from hers, I mean I have the same password for everything as does she) for everything so I knew
so I openened up hers with her standing right there. I commented on the letter from XXX and she said that we should look at it together.

I talked to her tonight and told her how I felt, ie she can do whatever she wants, but she said it would be inappropriate to hang out with a guy who has the hots for her. I agree. So I guess there is nothing I can do but relax. If she wants him she will go to him, I am %99.9 confident that she will stay with me. The only thing that would concern me is if she decided that she liked him (or had any doubt), how long would she wait to tell me?

I guess I will just see how it goes.

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Lots a people here don't personally know the people involved & are just casually farting out advice.

I see that a lot on this forum. Someone mentions a problem they're having with their partner & a lotta people immediately say "time to cutaway!"

Even the best relationship has problems. A relationship is work, even when it's your soulmate.

and it this case: personally, I'm leaning more towards Jessica's take on the situation.

Especially since I've remained on friendly terms w/ most of my exs.
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If people want the advice of specific friends, they PM them. This was admittedly posted anonymously and specifically asked for advice from the general populace.

If he was just fooling around, the question wouldn't come up. This is a relationship. For his relationship definition, this hurts. Monogamy, trust, honesty sound like they are part of what he wants.

Her secrecy, etc are going against their rules. This doesn't sound innocent. I also have good relationships with a few ex's, our communications are open with each others SOs.

People aren't casually making comments, they are evaluating and expressing opinions that were requested. Maybe some of it sounds harsh because it doesn't represent "hope". Personally, he sounds like a nice guy who is trying for good stuff. I don't want to see him hurt.

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Michael,

Because I know you somewhat I feel safe in saying that you should at least confront her with your concerns in a calm manner. Don't accuse her of anything because she hasn't done anything. Explain to her your reasoning for having doubts and then discuss what the possible solutions may be.

Ultimately the decision will be hers to make but if you are honest with her up front your decision will be whether to trust her and continue the relationship or get out.

Good luck,

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