Luna 0 #1 February 27, 2003 Does anyone know of a way to confirm this report I found? I haven't found a reference that links the two names in any of the national media, and the site I got this from doesn't list his reference. Very interested because I subscribe to one of the magazines, and if it is true, I would like to cancel my subscription. Thanks! Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it’s a French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car & Driver, Women’s Day and others. Now it’s getting familiar, isn’t it? OK, so we have Car & Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation. So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man who has been the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name? Saddam Hussein. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phatcat 0 #2 February 27, 2003 Quote Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it’s a French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car & Driver, Women’s Day and others. Now it’s getting familiar, isn’t it? OK, so we have Car & Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation. So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man who has been the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name? Saddam Hussein. Car & Driver is owned by the French??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 February 27, 2003 This should be pretty easy to track down . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 February 28, 2003 Car & Driver Copyright© 2003 Hachette Filipacchi Media, U.S., Inc. http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/about/about.xml So that part is true http://www.hfmus.com/hachetteusa Leads to . . . http://www.lagardere.com/us/ Unfortunately, it seems as if Annual Reports work a bit differently in France than the U.S.. Annual Reports in the U.S. usually show major stock holders. For instance, DISNEY. Generally speaking any single person owning 2 percent of a company would show up somewhere. However, in France, they have much stricter privacy laws so maybe that folds into this as well and is why I can't seem to find any major stockholder information. So, yes, the tie from C&D to France is complete, but no, there isn't anything definitve on any stockholder positions.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #5 February 28, 2003 Quote ... Car & Driver ... which is published by Hachette Filipacchi which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation. So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man who has been the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name? Saddam Hussein. NO!! PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SO!! NO!! I LOVE C&D!! NO!! AAARRRRGHH!!! I'VE BEEN SUBSCRIBING TO C&D since 1981... You know that also includes ROAD & TRACK too... yikes!! So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #6 February 28, 2003 Okay, so what's the point? I also hear rumor's that Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton Oil before becoming VP. Rumor has it that Halliburton (Under Cheney) worked with Saddam to rebuild Iraq's oil infrastructure after the 91 war... go figure... Aren't the evil one's allowed to make money too? or maybe it's the evil one's who profit from this?? Who knows... Oh... clickiesI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 0 #7 February 28, 2003 Thanks for checking. I wasn't sure where to find the stockholder information online, and I kind of figured it would turn out to be untraceable anyway. All I did was a news search to see if any media had picked it up, and I can't find any. If I get any more information on it I'll pass it along. And for Lummy, sure, everyone is entitled to get rich, but personally, I don't want my money going directly into Saddam's pocket. Sorry, just how I feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #8 February 28, 2003 >It seems that a man who has been the news quite a bit of late owns > around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars > worth. His name? Saddam Hussein. So? Pat Robertson gave millions to Charles Taylor, the dictator of Liberia, who gave safe haven to Al Quaeda both before and after 9/11. I don't see Pat being hauled off to a secret offshore government prison to answer charges of supporting terrorism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #9 February 28, 2003 Quotend for Lummy, sure, everyone is entitled to get rich, but personally, I don't want my money going directly into Saddam's pocket. Sorry, just how I feel. In that case, you might want to take the advice others are making in another threadI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 0 #10 February 28, 2003 Quote>It seems that a man who has been the news quite a bit of late owns > around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars > worth. His name? Saddam Hussein. So? Pat Robertson gave millions to Charles Taylor, the dictator of Liberia, who gave safe haven to Al Quaeda both before and after 9/11. I don't see Pat being hauled off to a secret offshore government prison to answer charges of supporting terrorism. Great! And am I spending any of my money supporting Pat Robertson? I know that everyone is on edge about this whole thing, but I was talking about magazine subscriptions, nothing more, nothing less! Give me a break, please! I'm not trying to start something about the war, or how we are handling things, or anything along those lines! I get enough of that crap at work, I'm sick of talking about it, that's not what I was trying to do (which is why I don't read or participate in any of those sorts of threads here either). No matter my position on the war, I still do not have any support for Saddam and do not wish to spend my money helping to fill his bank account. That is what my point is. And yeah, I realize that by using my car to drive to work I am indirectly supporting it as well, but not like I have a whole hell of a lot of choice there. We are car pooling as we can, but that's about the best I can do. BUT, a magazine subscription is an easy choice that I can make. It is not a necessity, and if it in any way supports Saddam, I am more than happy to cancel it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 February 28, 2003 QuoteIt is not a necessity, and if it in any way supports Saddam, I am more than happy to cancel it. Good lady, Heather! And when I read this thread earlier, I was curious to see what the connection was, as well. If there's an action you can do, and it demonstrates how you feel, then I say go for it! As for me, my only subscription is to Parachutist, and if that comes up connected, I'll be very sad... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #12 February 28, 2003 "I also hear rumor's that Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton Oil before becoming VP." Thats a fact, I worked for Brown and Root (a division of Halliburton) at the time. We used to get regular missives from "Uncle Dick". Its not Halliburton Oil, per se, they are a 'service' company as opposed to an operator. They do operate one production rig which is offshore Bangladesh. "Rumor has it that Halliburton (Under Cheney) worked with Saddam to rebuild Iraq's oil infrastructure after the 91 war... " Why of course, Halliburton is known as 'Big Red' in the business. They are absolutely huge,. They sell all sorts of equipment to exploit oil and gas reserves, from drilling stuff to all the pots and pans required to process and transport the oil or gas to refineries. What you may not know is that they also earn good money providing support to the US military in the form of infrastructure. IE mess halls, barracks, logistics support, power, water plants, sewage treatment units, AC units, you know, all the stuff to keep the boys happy. Halliburton provide this too. Go here to find out more http://www.halliburton.com/ Guess who I currently work for? -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #13 February 28, 2003 nnoooooo not car and driver aaaaahhhhh if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #14 February 28, 2003 Quote What you may not know is that they also earn good money providing support to the US military in the form of infrastructure. IE mess halls, barracks, logistics support, power, water plants, sewage treatment units, AC units, you know, all the stuff to keep the boys happy. Halliburton provide this too. Go here to find out more http://www.halliburton.com/ Guess who I currently work for? Greenpeace? Sierra Club? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #15 February 28, 2003 Actually I've given up working, I'm still reaping the benefits of my Duct Tape stock options....... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #16 February 28, 2003 Oh come on NacMac... You're surely not STILL on Duct tape shares!. All the smart money's now moved into the stuff that removes the adhesive marks left by Duct Tape and plastic sheeting recyclers. Actually, the "plastic sheeting recycler" business comprises a massive warehouse and a small office. The warehouse is for storing the plastic sheeting and the office starts and dispels terrorist rumours on a 3 month cycle. Short version is that we start a rumour on some terrorist alert which can only be safeguarded against by purchasing copious amounts of plastic sheeting - which we're in a position to sell. Then, 2 - 3 months down the line we say the threat is over and charge very reasonable rates for removing unwanted plastic sheeting in an environmentally friendly way.... Back it goes into the warehouse. Once we've got the plastic sheeting back, then it's time for another terror alert - And so on... While the recent alerts have been OK, I've felt that they lacked imagination... That's all changing with the Fall 2004 Terror alert - It's going to be.... A mass escape of Genetically engineered mutated French Hamsters Who have become Fundamentalist Salvationists! The US will be faced with a stark choice... Either turn the entire economy over to the production of Garlic flavoured cheese while paying all your earnings to brass bands... OR... Corraling these creatures using the only materials they can't chew through (and are in fact allergic to!) Yep, plastic sheeting & Duct Tape. OK, I know it sounds a bit far fetched just now, but we'll need something. So far we can't get the Dali Lama to commit to anything worse that "Mild Headache to America". Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #17 February 28, 2003 C'mon Mike, I had to get into Duct Tape, after my Supergun business went through a bit of a slump. Things are picking up on the 'fashionable false moustache' franchise though, the Baghdad office can't get enough of them..... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #18 February 28, 2003 Quote C'mon Mike, I had to get into Duct Tape, after my Supergun business went through a bit of a slump. Yeah, I heard that it was the calibre of your launch advice that caused that venture to go down the tubes. Quote Things are picking up on the 'fashionable false moustache' franchise though, the Baghdad office can't get enough of them..... Yeah, that explains the current moustache shortage in Paris. I was thinking of moving into the "Big Bumper Fire Extinguisher" market. Barter them for a load of high quality builders sand, there should be enough ships to deliver going in the right direction around April. So if you know anyone who's inthe market for some top quality builders sand (guaranteed not more that .001% depleted Uranium), let me knowMike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #19 February 28, 2003 "Big Bumper Fire Extinguisher" Big Bumper fire extinguishers R us! Where do you think that wheeled monster outside Manifest at Errol came from? -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
