sinker 0 #1 February 28, 2003 ok yall, send up the prayers and well wishes for my cousin. He's a 22 year old black pilot in the 101st Air Assault division at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky. He just called us to tell us that he is being shipped out tomorrow!!! for the middle east. God I hope he is ok over there. sinker -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #2 February 28, 2003 Good luck, and good vibes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #3 February 28, 2003 Prayers and well wishes sent. Tell him to stay safe, and come home. ANd tell him "THANKS!!!", he is appreciated. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #4 February 28, 2003 OK as I have previously stated....are we going to pray to your god, mine or theirs? Casue theirs will want him dead...mine don't care about him, just about making me miserable. Does your god care? Decide buddy?jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #5 February 28, 2003 thank you Michele. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #6 February 28, 2003 I'm not sure what your problem is, but the topic of this post obviously a sensitive one. Your comment seems pretty insensitive and offensive. I'm obviously referring to a God who cares about the well being of His/Her/Its creatures. If you don't believe in such a God, why don't you just keep your thoughts to yourself? -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #7 February 28, 2003 I'm sorry you feel this way. It's obvious you have never served in a military unit. The Airman, Soldiers, Seaman, or Marines who are now deployed are not fighting for some poor Iraqi child, who's leader has starved them, but more fore their buddy. If you don't look out for your friends then you have nothing. What do you have? A parachute and some free fly jumps because no one else will jump with you? Realize the person next to you on the jump plane amy not be there next weekend because they are deployed to Kuwait. If it where not for this person then you would probably not be jumping. Don't take your freedoms for granted, for it doesn't take much for them to dissapear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #8 February 28, 2003 My post was by no means agains our fine military personnel, by no means. My post was just stating that WE say god bless us, THEY say the same etc. In WWII the Germans had "Gott mit uns" engraved on their belt buckles, 150,000 of them remained dead at Stalingrad. Most our soldiers fallen in Normandy and the Pacific islands prayed to god too. I jump with my friends who serve in the armed forces. I don't pray for them, I remind them to take good care of their asses, think of what they are doing AND take care of the dude nearest to them...and survive!jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #9 March 1, 2003 whatever you "meant" your comments were tacky and poorly timed. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greene 0 #10 March 1, 2003 Your post may be the most insinitive and poorly worded post I have ever read in this forum. It was a post for protection and safe return. Your response was a direct insult to all of our military service men and women serving our country. Lee West Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #11 March 1, 2003 I think you misinterpreted....I have friends and very close family members..ie..spouse who serve in the military. IN fact, my husband is an atheist and would quite openly agree with his comment instead of being insulted. Not everyone believes in God....and the country we are going to war with believes in Allah and believe me...they are praying to him daily...probably a lot more than we are praying to our God. IN fact, I believe the whole middle east shuts down a few times a day just so they can kneel on their prayer mats and pray. Look beyond the words you see in the post....open your mind to the bigger picture... it has nothing to do with insulting the military.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #12 March 1, 2003 Thanks for jumping in with that before I decided to, Kriss. I got what Jraf was trying to say. Remember folks, not everyone believes in the same god, some don't think he exists, and those who believe in the Christian god are a very small minority compared with the rest of the planet's beliefs. KrisSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #13 March 1, 2003 ....one Nation under God.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #14 March 1, 2003 Quotewhatever you "meant" your comments were tacky and poorly timed. Thanks...I now know you truly have no clue...god bless your little heart! And Salam' alleykum to you my brother...Gott Beschuetze your family...let Bhudda save your liver and Amon Ra (This one is for Miss L) open your eyes every morning...let the virgin mary make sure you remain a virgin...let saint francis of asissi make sure you remain poor...but if you are truly poor how are you to pass the styx river without paying the ferryman?jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #15 March 1, 2003 ...Gott beschuetze, Gott bewache, Unserem Kaiser, unser Land.. OK, can anyone remember the melody to this one? This IS worth a casa of beer jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #16 March 1, 2003 QuoteThanks...I now know you truly have no clue... Dude, All Sinker was seeking was good vibes. Apparently, you demonstrated that it cannot be found here within our community of skydivers. Answer it respectfully or don't answer it at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #17 March 1, 2003 All the best to your cousin. I am proud of him for answering the call of our nation. I will add his name to the prayer list at my church if you will PM it to me. Yes, that will be a prayer to my God. Others may or may not add him to their prayer list for their god, so be it. Remind him to CYA and wear that flack jacket. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #18 March 1, 2003 I hope that one day you see what sort of an idiot you have been on this post. Thanks for the insults pal. Love ya. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #19 March 1, 2003 Thank you to Shark and Mouth and Lee for your words... they are appreciated. Y'all really get it unlike some others... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #20 March 1, 2003 Ok y'all... just so that this post isn't further degraded and highjacked onto something it isn't supposed to be... I don't want this to turn into a theology post or debate or whatever. If you wish to, that is fine just do it somewhere else. I started this post because I am concerned for my cousin. I want him to come home safe. If you believe in a belevelant God who cares for our safety and well-being and you would be willing to say an extra prayer for him, his name is Aaron Jansen. I'd be deeply grateful. If you don't share these beliefs, fine. At least have the courtesy and tactfulness to keep your thoughts to yourself or share them elsewhere. This post isn't the place for them. And no, I'm not calling for censure or anything. Just some f***ing respect and descency. Most of you have more than enough of this, but some of you do not. To those of you that do, hats off. The world is a much better place. To those that don't, I hope you learn these two virtues, respect and descency. The world is worse off because you don't have them. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #21 March 1, 2003 Duuuuude....were you expecting respect and decency for me? Next, please! jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #22 March 1, 2003 I pity you. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #23 March 1, 2003 Quote I pity you. Shalom brother, Shalom...I'm happy I have awoken these noble feelings in you. Shall we try another one?jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #24 March 1, 2003 you awoke nothing in me that wasn't there before. Don't flatter yourself. And try another? Don't think so... you've made enough of an ass of yourself already. You don't need my help to prove it even more... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #25 March 1, 2003 Hey, you two... This thread is going sideways, right? So how about both of you stopping the issue. Both post to others, and not each other. This post asked for prayers and good vibes. Jraf, while prayer seems to not be your forte, vibes are. I've seen you send them out to lots of people...how about doing that this time? And Sinker, I understand your position too. How about you just letting it go for now, and spending the energy asking for your cousin's protection? I'll start.... ~~~~~~~Extra vibes for the cousin~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Prayers sent for the cousin~~~~~~~~ Next!!!Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites