nacmacfeegle 0 #126 February 28, 2003 "Bottom line 1: you don't have to be French to prove to the world you're an ass. Bottom line 2: the good thing is that there are tolerant people in the US, in France and in the rest of the world that accept our differences. " Yup, and yup.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgross 1 #127 March 3, 2003 I know this has been brought up before, but isn't suspitious that the French and Germany have Billions of $$$ invested in contracts with Iraq, and these guys are the ones DEAD SET against a war. I am confused though can someone answer me this: Why did every country in the U.N Sign resolution 1441, with the stipulation that if in breech, military action would be taken. Iraq is NOW saying it found some Chemical weapons. They were supposed to declare that on Dec 8th. Why now? Pressure?The threat of war? See, all these people that think GWB is an idiot for this war threat obviously don't see that it is working. The close to a war we come, the more sadaam gets scared, and the more weapons relealed. I think GWB is a genius, and his plan is working perfectly. Am I the only one who sees this? Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryskydives 0 #128 March 3, 2003 plan is working perfectly. Am I the only one who sees this? Heck Chris: Over 70% of the US and most of world see this. They don"t need to make a big deal out of the obvious. Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #129 March 3, 2003 Quote plan is working perfectly. Am I the only one who sees this? Heck Chris: Over 70% of the US and most of world see this. They don"t need to make a big deal out of the obvious. "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Who said it?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #130 March 3, 2003 Quote Quote plan is working perfectly. Am I the only one who sees this? Heck Chris: Over 70% of the US and most of world see this. They don"t need to make a big deal out of the obvious. "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Who said it? Hermann Göring"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #131 March 3, 2003 You can find it in Nuremberg Diary by Gustav M. Gilbert PhD. It was published in 1947 and is still in print. But quotes can be very easily applied. Who said this: QuoteInstruction in world history in the so-called high schools is even today in a very sorry condition. Few teachers understand that the study of history can never be to learn historical dates and events by heart and recite them by rote; that what matters is not whether the child knows exactly when this battle or that was fought, when a general was born, or even when a monarch (usually a very insignificant one) came into the crown of his forefathers. No, by the living God, this is very unimportant. To 'learn' history means to seek and find the forces which are the causes leading to those effects which we subsequently perceive as historical events. Once you find out, would you you change your opinion of the quote? Would you suspect it came from someone that repeated history's mistakes?-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #132 March 3, 2003 Wah! Scary! You're right I didn't see it like that... There must some kind of WORLD conspiracy against USA! I don't understand those non-American people having different interests!.. oh wait, does it mean I won't understand me either? help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #133 March 3, 2003 Down! Down I say! I think by the same light, it's interesting that the US, who has a greater interest in cheap gasoline that probably any other country in the world, is looking to "liberate" a country with a huge oil reserve. I'll just bet that in payment, we'll allow the lucky folks to sell us low-priced oil. Or am I the only person who thinks that could happen. Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #134 March 3, 2003 Same here. Plus everybody should know European countries, and France especially (obviously), doesn't really care about cheap gas... they love to pay $4 a gallon right now, I'm sure they'd love to pay more if they could. Ok, I'll stay down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #136 March 3, 2003 QuoteI think by the same light, it's interesting that the US, who has a greater interest in cheap gasoline that probably any other country in the world, is looking to "liberate" a country with a huge oil reserve. I'll just bet that in payment, we'll allow the lucky folks to sell us low-priced oil. Or am I the only person who thinks that could happen. no but if it was about oil we could take over Kuwait. We already control 65% the area with our military (CNN aka Clinton news network numbers not mine). It would be a small mop up operation instead of a war..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #137 March 3, 2003 "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion." -- Jed Babbit going to war with out the French is like skydiving with out a anvil " Nice. But I'm not sure I got your point... What else can you do without the French? Can we play with another country or is this only related to France? Is it fair to say that going to war without the French is like going to macDonalds without the French fries?.... wait wait, I have another one: "going to war without the French is like cleaning your feet with your socks on." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #138 March 3, 2003 QuoteYou can find it in Nuremberg Diary by Gustav M. Gilbert PhD. It was published in 1947 and is still in print. But quotes can be very easily applied. Who said this: QuoteInstruction in world history in the so-called high schools is even today in a very sorry condition. Few teachers understand that the study of history can never be to learn historical dates and events by heart and recite them by rote; that what matters is not whether the child knows exactly when this battle or that was fought, when a general was born, or even when a monarch (usually a very insignificant one) came into the crown of his forefathers. No, by the living God, this is very unimportant. To 'learn' history means to seek and find the forces which are the causes leading to those effects which we subsequently perceive as historical events. Once you find out, would you you change your opinion of the quote? Would you suspect it came from someone that repeated history's mistakes? "What luck for rulers, that men do not think." - A. Hitler... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #139 March 3, 2003 QuoteQuoteI think by the same light, it's interesting that the US, who has a greater interest in cheap gasoline that probably any other country in the world, is looking to "liberate" a country with a huge oil reserve. I'll just bet that in payment, we'll allow the lucky folks to sell us low-priced oil. Or am I the only person who thinks that could happen. no but if it was about oil we could take over Kuwait. We already control 65% the area with our military (CNN aka Clinton news network numbers not mine). It would be a small mop up operation instead of a war..... I think you misunderstand the economics of oil. "What luck for rulers, that men do not think." - Hitler... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #140 March 3, 2003 Quoteif it was about oil we could take over Kuwait. Let's see. There are several countries with oil, the vast majority of which the US can surpass militarily. One has a government which generally likes us and is pretty puny. Another hates our guts and is bigger. But we can take either of them. And it's all about the power, right? Nope, I'd go for kicking the ass of the country that hates me. Otherwise, why don't we attack our allies? Or are we so immeasurably superior that it's only oil that we need? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #141 March 3, 2003 Screw Iraq. Let's get back to France bashing. I hear that at French DZ's they say to students over radio "surrender!.....now throw your rifle down" instead of "hands up.......FLARE"."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #142 March 3, 2003 Quote I hear that at French DZ's they say to students over radio "surrender!.....now throw your rifle down" instead of "hands up.......FLARE". Does anyone think this is funny? Just curious cause it's not even creative. It's just plain stupid. Do you have any Black Friends? Indian Friends? Asian Friends? South American Friends? Any European Friends? Do you make jokes at their expense to their faces? You think that stupid jokes like that are appreciated? ooops I let a jack *ss drag me to their level... again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #143 March 4, 2003 Yep, just lookin to get in before the lockWhere's the love? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #144 March 4, 2003 Nope, not funny. But I think it was intended to lighten the mood, and backfired. Either way, remember the mantra: Dude, never wrestle with a pig in his sty. You get all muddy, and the pig enjoys it. Make him come to your ideas instead. Applicability? Some people will say just about anything to get a rise out of someone. Look at posting histories, and respond to substance. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #145 March 4, 2003 Bring on the lock. One of my best friends is a Sikh Indian who I frequently call "Injun". He runs an watchdog organization for Sikh's in the media and speaks at conferences. We hang out just about every night along with my Italian girlfriend and my other tight friend, a Puerto Rican, he even has a black best friend that comes out with us frequently. My roommate is gay and for xmas I got him a calendar of half dressed men so he "would have something besides me to think about," I told him. Two of my girlfriend's roommates are Jewish and make more jokes about it than I've ever heard. We refer to them as the Jew Crew.... Ok, not going to continue. Take it in stride. This anti-France thing is stupid but that joke KICKED ASS, MOTHERFUCKER!!!! PEACE,"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #146 March 4, 2003 Where is Wingnut with with the kicking the dead horse post he had ages ago... That was funny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #147 March 4, 2003 Good God, I'm immature. Sorry for the m'fer comment. I just had to do it. Edit: My official stance. France has good reason to oppose this action for the tremendous loss of investment they'll endure. This is very valid, sheesh, WE (the US) do it all of the time. As for Iraq....it should not be a state to state conflict. It should be purely to remove SH from power. By the way, I'm looking forward to going to France so don't tell any frogs I made that joke.."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #148 March 4, 2003 I still like you man... I'm just talkin, like every one else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #149 March 4, 2003 Yeah, I've seen a lot of your post and know you're a pretty chill guy... PEaCe,"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #150 March 4, 2003 Missed the lock by -->that<-- much. What the Hell, I figure this thread will be locked sooner or later anyway. Might as well get in while I can.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
