pack40 0 #76 December 12, 2002 My only concern when one tandem jump whuffos call themselves skydivers. Tnadem is not a skydive for the load. OVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #77 December 12, 2002 QuoteWell, it helped that a first jump course was only $40 when I took it And student jumps with gear were $12 I think. Sometimes being older has its advantages but remeber...a loaf of bread was only 5 cents then too....lol...j/k........i'll be as young as you someday......... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #78 December 12, 2002 I was 21 and didn't eat for a week before my 1st jump class. Instant appetite after. _______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #79 December 12, 2002 Quote I was 23 when I started. Why does many of you say that started skydiving with a tandem jump? You consider tandem jump as a skydive? Yes for the TM it is, but for the ballast? Once somebody did a tandem jump with me, but even that time -BEFORE I started jumping- I was polite enough not to refer it as a jump. IMHO tandem is a good way of demonstrating the sport for those scared, old, medically not fit people who would never jump or can not jump alone. If you exit a plane, go into freefall with all intent to land under a parachute, it's a skydive. I would consider S/L less a skydive than a tandem, for most, it's just a parachute ride. Would you not consider that a jump? I started jumping (1 tandem) before AFF @ 38 y/o Aff the next week. Tandem jumps are also for those that might like to try skydiving but would like the reassurance of having someone else in control the first time just in case everything doesn't go as planned! Once I tasted human flight(via a tandem JUMP), I knew that I was UP for it! After over 1000 JUMPS I still consider the people that come to the DZ and do 1 tandem, one of us! They may not like the taste of freefall afterwards, but they DID taste it! Blue ones, Conway 1085 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #80 December 12, 2002 I GOT YOU! "If you exit a plane" the TM exits the plan the load is just connected to it. O.K. maybe a S/L is less experience and only a canopy ride, but it is done on your own. As I mentioned I experienced both and my FIRST jump (S/L) was a much, much bigger exprience than the tandem. BTW in this AFP program the tandem jumps are logged in the students logbook as jumps? Technically it is easier not to let somebody "go away" from your dz/skydiving club after a S/L jump than to catch a ex-tandem passanger, even if he liked it very much. Maybe in the US it is not a problem but here the tandem cost same as the S/L so some people would skydive but can not afford both. So after an S/L they can jump only for the gear+ride up money. "After over 1000 JUMPS I still consider the people that come to the DZ and do 1 tandem, one of us! " I do not even consider myself as a real skydiver with 49 jumps, looking at my average jump per year. I am only a "good start" maybe in some years... OVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #81 December 12, 2002 QuoteI do not even consider myself as a real skydiver with 49 jumps, looking at my average jump per year. I am only a "good start" maybe in some years... Why not? I have 47 jumps. I am a real skydiver. I do not have the experience that some of these people have or the number of jumps a year, but that does not make me anything less than a real skydiver.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #82 December 12, 2002 Read mine just above your's Schweetheart! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #83 December 12, 2002 BWAAHHHAAA!!!That POPS thing is a long standing Levin threat, every year since he was a baby. Hell, I have known you both since you wore FX Pampers. You two punks gang up on my happy ass and well, let me think of all the footage I have. LOL ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #84 December 12, 2002 QuoteI GOT YOU! "If you exit a plane" the TM exits the plan the load is just connected to it. O.K. maybe a S/L is less experience and only a canopy ride, but it is done on your own. BTW in this AFP program the tandem jumps are logged in the students logbook as jumps? Maybe in the US it is not a problem but here the tandem cost same as the S/L so some people would skydive but can not afford both. So after an S/L they can jump only for the gear+ride up money. "After over 1000 JUMPS I still consider the people that come to the DZ and do 1 tandem, one of us! " I do not even consider myself as a real skydiver with 49 jumps, looking at my average jump per year. I am only a "good start" maybe in some years... Interesting, 49 jumps, you may not consider yourself a GOOD skydiver, but irregardless of what you consider yourself..you ARE A SKYDIVER! If you hang it up, never to do it again, you can say that you WERE A SKYDIVER but as long as you continue JUMPING OUT OF P/G AIRPLANES, YOU ARE A SKYDIVER! Just maybe not a good one, but you are REAL! In the U.S. tandems are typically much more $ than S/L, where S/L is still available. After being away from the sport for over 1 1/2 yrs. with 1 tandem JUMP and 4 AFF JUMPS, I still WAS a skydiver because I KNEW that I was to return someday. It was my telling people that I was still a skydiver after not jumping a while that made me live the promise to myself to return and stare down the fear! BTW, the 1st tandem I did is #1 jump in my first log book of the 1085 that I've logged! Or should I change my book to 1-Tandem,8 AFF and ONLY 1076 REAL skydives? I'm pretty sure that anyone who has never experienced this thrill would agree! Conway 1085 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird 0 #85 December 12, 2002 Did my 1st IAD last year when I was 30. A year later, I'm a complete addict. Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -Robert A. Heinlein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pack40 0 #86 December 12, 2002 So you log tandem jumps the same way as normal jump. We have more strict rules over here, what can you log, who can sign it, who can stamp it etc. etc. Interesting. OVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #87 December 12, 2002 In AFP program, it IS your 1st student jump, it is a teaching jump, not just a fun jump with no control input. You are guided on flying and landing the tandem chute, you do practice pulls, you have to stay alt. aware, waive-off and simulate pull and deployment of the pilot chute! Yes our student rigs are BOC deployment from the first solo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #88 December 12, 2002 19, S/L T10 in 1989 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #89 December 12, 2002 I was 19 when I went to army jump school. I started skydiving when I was 22. This was back in the 70's and everyone started with static line. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #90 December 17, 2002 First jump ever: 19 (Military static line jump) First AFF Jump: 23 And yes, I bought beer both times Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,141 #91 December 17, 2002 Quote What no 51's up their? What's the deal? I was 52.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,141 #92 December 17, 2002 Quote Once I tasted human Freaky!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #93 December 17, 2002 QuoteJust wondering how early you guys started your AFF/SLP? 25...would have been 24 but the DZ I was at closed after their first fatality in 7 years of operation the day I took the FJC. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,577 #94 December 17, 2002 QuoteI would consider S/L less a skydive than a tandem, for most, it's just a parachute ride Interesting. I'd definitely consider a S/L at least as much a skydive as a tandem. You're in charge of your own fate on a S/L. Yes, you have the static line, but you're in charge of steering and landing; mess it up and you're the one that's hurt. There's no one else to take over if you lose it. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #95 December 17, 2002 Quote Quote Once I tasted human Freaky! Cute, have you had lunch yet? Out of context Once I tasted human flight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #96 December 20, 2002 I was 22. 40 now. Nothing better... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #97 December 20, 2002 I was 36 when I did that first jump ... you're never too old to start a new adventure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyediver 0 #98 January 6, 2003 Did a tandem for my 15th bday..then in August of 2002 (less than a month after my 16th bday) I did my first IAD...can't wait til the spring!! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #99 January 6, 2003 21! slp:7 jumps at MAYTOWN, then AFF at Skydive Chambersburg _______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dex 0 #100 January 6, 2003 I was 19.. Heard an ad on the radio; signed up for an aff course... that night... 2 weeks later I showed up at the dz bought my aff package and went for my first plane ride /jump the next day... Got on a sunset load. Had never considered skydiving before I heard that ad, glad I was listening to the radio that day... Erik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
