ChileRelleno 0 #1 March 7, 2003 OK, first let me say "I don't know the whole story,some of this is hearsay but I saw stuff with my own eyes." This afternoon at the Boogie there were apparently one to three (1-3) NARC/plainclothes of some type who were watching/looking for drugs ect... (Hearsay)Word is that some of these "visitors" (so many at a Boogie) were watching for and inquiring about get a hold of contraband. One "visitor/NARC" apparently smelled or observed one of our jumpers in his personal vehicle with contraband, the local police were called and said jumper refused to allow search of his vehicle. (Not hearsay)The jumper was then detained at the scene by the NARC and local police while a effort to obtain a search warrant was started. The jumper and police were still waiting for the warrant to arrive when I left for home at 6pm. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 March 7, 2003 Was this on a public airport or a private one?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #3 March 7, 2003 Public ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #4 March 7, 2003 that's bull shit. i mean you don't go call the cops on someone. at the most you may hint to the dzo that it is going on, but that is only if there not cool with it, and let them deal with it. it's one thing to be asked and then tell the truth. and it's another to turn someone in. it's just not right. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #5 March 7, 2003 This really raises alot of questions in my head, Public federally funded airport, state or federal jurisdiction? Repercussions to the DZ/DZO? ect... ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #6 March 7, 2003 What a crock of shit that pisses me off they could be out busting crack houses and things of that nature rather than that theyd rather come and bust one of us for a minor marijuana charge. So did they ever get a serch warrant or what. Personally I think their should be some other legal actions taken not toward the jumper but the Narcotics officers for coming out looking for a problem when there really wasnt one. Noone was being harmed just havin fun. Id be furious if soemthing like that happened at my DZ. - GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #7 March 7, 2003 You do something illegal and get caught, you deserve what happens. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #8 March 7, 2003 Quotei mean you don't go call the cops on someone. I really don't think was another jumper calling the police, this guy/guys was plainclothes of some type. Word was these folks were Narc's trying to find drugs/contraband being used or sold... ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #9 March 7, 2003 Don't you know it is bad form to criticize police since Sept. '01? They now all have halos on their heads. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #10 March 7, 2003 So did they ever get a serch warrant or what.Quote They had been holding the jumper for several hours on site before I left at 6pm and looked like they had NO intention of letting him go until they searched his vehicle. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #11 March 7, 2003 unfortunately to much of the "law" is designed to protect us from ourselves..fricking bastages need to BTFU and focus on real crime not petty offenses. perhaps cops should get paid based on the number of real crimes they solve and be fined for going out of their way to hassle otherwise harmless individuals.. bad laws should be broken,broken repeatedly and broken often until our so called "public servants" get a clue and change them.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #12 March 7, 2003 Quote Don't you know it is bad form to criticize police since Sept. '01? They now all have halos on their heads. Well in that instance...hats off to the police, however, There's no grey area in being wrong. What they did was wrong and if I was the DZO Id be taking severe legal action against the state or whatever forit.- GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #13 March 7, 2003 QuoteWhat they did was wrong and if I was the DZO Id be taking severe legal action against the state or whatever for [Mad] it. Sorry. I don't quite understand. Why was what they did wrong? Sure, it's distasteful, but "wrong"? I really don't understand. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #14 March 7, 2003 Quote There's no grey area in being wrong. What they did was wrong and if I was the DZO Id be taking severe legal action against the state or whatever forit. What they are doing isn't wrong, it is perfectly legal. Maybe not the best use of their resources, but it is still legal. KrisSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #15 March 7, 2003 I agree their priorities are off, but what did the police do that was illegal, being a public airport?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #16 March 7, 2003 I don't know if it was weed or whatever. My personal opinion is it needs to wait to be brought out till after jumping is finished for the day, just like alcohol. And since it is "ILLEGAL" needs to be taken off the DZ to avoid "ANY" possible repercussions to the operation of the DZ. We face enough scrutiny without having the use,possesion and possible distibrution of drugs and ect added to our problems. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #17 March 7, 2003 QuoteWhat they did was wrong I don't see that they've done anything wrong. Personally I think marijuana should be legalized, but it and other drugs are illegal. Undercover cops/narcs enforce drug laws. They work areas where they think it's likely they'll make a bust. Any event held on public property - which a publicly funded airport could certainly be considered - is open territory for them. It's kinda like skydiving. If you're going to have or use drugs at a boogie - or even on a normal evening at the dz - you need to accept the risks involved. If you do it, there's a chance you'll get caught. Just because you've gotten away with it in the past doesn't make it unfair or wrong when/if you do get busted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkpbxman 0 #18 March 7, 2003 Quote...what they did was wrong... If this was they're idea-yes they were wrong but 9 out of 10 times the police are only responding to a complaint they have received from a citizen. If that was the case, they were only doing what they had to. The police don't have the power to make or change existing laws. If enough people don't like a particular law, get together, elect the right people and get it taken off the books! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #19 March 7, 2003 QuoteIf this was they're idea-yes they were wrong but 9 out of 10 times the police are only responding to a complaint they have received from a citizen. Why was it wrong if it was their idea? QuoteThe police don't have the power to make or change existing laws. The police do however have the power to enforce or not enforce particular laws. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phatcat 0 #20 March 7, 2003 Quote If enough people don't like a particular law, get together, elect the right people and get it taken off the books! Or AT LEAST be more careful not to get caught!! (That was a half tongue-in-cheek comment folks) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #21 March 7, 2003 I don't understand what you mean by "what they did was wrong." Actually, they were doing their jobs. You may disagree with the laws that they were enforcing, but accordign to the limited information, the cops did it legally "right." Cops aren't there to enforce the "moral" law or the "ethical" law. Cops enforce the "written law" and "statutory law." Incidentally, I am somewhat in agreement with you all in terms of the need to change these laws. But, the cops did it right, from what I saw. Now, if it turns out this skydiver rats out his supplier, would you object to that skydiver's actions as "wrong?" --- My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phatcat 0 #22 March 7, 2003 QuoteThe police do however have the power to enforce or not enforce particular laws. I disagree with that. They have a certain amount of discretion, but they can't just ignore blatant disregard for laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #23 March 7, 2003 Smoking weed is a good deed Sniffing cocaina makes you a sex machinajraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkpbxman 0 #24 March 7, 2003 If this raid or whatever was completely capricious in nature I could see where some people might not think that they're tax dollars were being correctly spent and therefore bitch about it. You can't have the police deciding which laws they will or will not enforce. That leads to even more serious problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #25 March 7, 2003 Ok damn so I used the wrong word didnt expect everyone to take the officers side of it all sheesh - GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
