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Genie

UK House of Commons debate on War with Iraq

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If it wasnt so serious this would be hilarious! Tony Blair is the leader of the labour party and the Conservative party is in opposition. The conservatives are backing Tony Blair and will vote in favour. Tony's own party is staging a revolt and arguing against him. They are tabling an ammendment to the motion to go to war, basically saying its not justified.
3 senior members of the cabinet have resigned and a couple of Permanent Private secretaries - members of the Civil Service of all things - have also quit. But the conservatives think hes dead on.

the debate will continue til about 5pm EST and then they will vote. If it passes its gotta be one of the first times that the Prime Ministers motion was passed not by the government but by the opposition. History in the making alright.

Genie

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From the Beeb....

"Some members of the Labour Government are reconsidering their role in Parliament over the issue of a possible war with Iraq.
Here is a list of the ones who feel they cannot support the prime minister's position.

Sunday

Labour MP for Loughborough Andy Reed resigns saying he has no choice but to quit as Parliamentary Private Secretary to Environment Secretary Margaret Beckett because he feels so strongly about the crisis.

Monday

16:17GMT - Leader of the House of Commons Robin Cook resigns after a meeting with Tony Blair at 10 Downing Street.

He said: "Neither the international community nor the British public are persuaded that there is an urgent and compelling reason for this action in Iraq."

Tuesday

07:00GMT - Lord Hunt of Kings Heath announces his resignation as junior health minister on BBC Radio 4's Today Programme, saying: "At the end of the day I don't support this action and it would be hypocritical for me to stay in government."

11:11GMT - Home Office Minister John Denham resigns saying: "I cannot support the government in tonight's vote."

11:39GMT - Bob Blizzard, Labour MP for Waveney, resigns as Parliamentary Private Secretary to work and pensions minister Nick Brown.

11:56GMT - Anne Campbell, Labour MP for Cambridge, resigns from her role as Parliamentary Private Secretary to Patricia Hewitt, secretary of state for trade and industry"

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Har Phree, this is a cunning ploy. By the time they put this crisis resolution to a vote, there won't be enough people left to form an opposition.....;)

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They need to quit resigning so some one canvote against them ;)



I could be wrong on this but I think that while they have resigned from their government positions, they are still elected officials and so entitled to vote against this issue - which they probably will do ;)

Genie

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I do love watching the HOC go at it, and to quote a gentleman from this morning, "If you see a criminal walking down your street and choose to do nothing about it, do not be angry at your neighbour if he does." This chap was in complete support of the US position and it seemed from the reaction from the chamber that there was much more to come

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They need to quit resigning so some one canvote against them ;)



I could be wrong on this but I think that while they have resigned from their government positions, they are still elected officials and so entitled to vote against this issue - which they probably will do ;)

Genie


You are correct, they still get to vote.
It's going to be a close one, but I expect it will get through.

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