BikerBabe 0 #26 March 20, 2003 QuoteThe whole thing is illegal ... the is no UN authorization for this. Niccolo Machiavelli would wholeheartedly disagree with you. Whether you agree with him or not, old Niccolo was pretty spot-on.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #27 March 20, 2003 Quote Hey ... I think you might be post-whoring with these one word posts I think you're right. (dang...four words...) Edit to add: Well, seven...plus this...ah phooey...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #28 March 20, 2003 At least he speaks with more sense than you do.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #29 March 20, 2003 QuoteThe whole thing is illegal ... the is no UN authorization for this. It is an attack on a soverign nation. An effort to put a puppet government that will cowtow to US demands in place. Saudi Arabia is where the money trail for OBL leads ... it's a fu@ckin madman gone power crazy. What a giant load of crap. Fortunately, most Americans are behind this noble effort. Latest job approval ratings are 63% and RISING. The "get out of dodge" speech 48 hours ago got 77% approval. God Bless America . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #30 March 20, 2003 QuoteThe president will speak at 10:15, it's official now. God Bless the troops and the leadership. May they make the decisions that will end this swift and with a minimum of hardship to the population. Hard to do. But that's what I hope for.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoobieCootie 0 #31 March 20, 2003 I think the sun is going to rise from the WEST this morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #32 March 20, 2003 QuoteWhat a giant load of crap. Fortunately, most Americans are behind this noble effort. Latest job approval ratings are 63% and RISING. The "get out of dodge" speech 48 hours ago got 77% approval. "Noble"? Abandoning diplomacy and turning loose the world's most powerful military force on an impoverished country of 23 million where more than 1/2 the population relys on foreign aid for food, where children don't have clean water to drink, where health care is poor at best ... this is what you call this "noble"? And I would suggest the high ratings you have for your leadership are because the information you receive is VERY controlled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #33 March 20, 2003 Blah, blah, blah. Do you guys hear a high ptiched whine in here? Whether you agree with it or not, it has begun, and most Americans do agree with it. My prayers and FULL 100% support to our troops.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #34 March 20, 2003 QuoteOne more time for the folks in the nose-bleed seats: The UN is not a governing body. One of the reasons the UN was created is to prevent scenarios like this from ever happening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #35 March 20, 2003 >The UN is not a governing body. So Iraq had no obligation to obey UN 1441? Then what's all that talk about inspections failing and whatnot? I think we're treating the UN somewhat schizophrenically. Iraq must obey the UN, since they represent the will of the world. We don't have to, since they're not a governing body. We should choose one or the other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #36 March 20, 2003 Quote Noble"? Abandoning diplomacy and turning loose the world's most powerful military force a country of 23 million where more than 1/2 the population relys on foreign aid for food, where children don't have clean water to drink, where health care is poor at best ... this is what you call this "noble"? And I would suggest the high ratings you have for your leadership are because the information you receive is VERY controlled. And you are privvy to the uncontrolled source of information? Please share it with me! The US is going in there to get rid of the very problems you just listed, plus a whole lot more! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #37 March 20, 2003 QuoteAt least he speaks with more sense than you do. Coming from someone who was complaining earlier today about personal attacks... Thank you and come home safe and soon, guys. Thank you also to the loved ones of those that are over there now. If there's a god, may s/he have mercy on all our souls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #38 March 20, 2003 The UN is a cooperative based on compliance. That is totally different than a governeing body. Furthermore, the is a difference between acting without approval and acting directly against a UN resolution. Come on Bill, I know your logic works better than that...doesn't? Don't fall into the trap of b precipitates a, therefore a must always be introduced by a.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddytheeagle 0 #39 March 20, 2003 Quote Whether you agree with it or not, it has begun, and most Americans do agree with it. There's more people living on this earth than just americans, but not everybody in the us might be aware of that. I strongly doubt that even 10% of mankind supports this war, which has consequences worldwide.Don't underestimate your ability to screw up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #40 March 20, 2003 Quote an impoverished country of 23 million where more than 1/2 the population relys on foreign aid for food, where children don't have clean water to drink, where health care is poor at best ... this is what you call this "noble"? The information you get is no different. Now think about why this country is in the state it's in... Saddam funnells all resources to his military, especially the Republican Guard. They have food, water, medical care. All the "oil for food" resources go toward that. Bear in mind, that the US is now unified behind the mission, even if some disagree. I've not seen anyone sling BS at our troops and even the political slinging in Washington DC has settled and rallied behind our President. I'm being overly simplistic but I hope you don't take it out of context.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #41 March 20, 2003 Well noone paid attention then, so I might as well join the crew.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #42 March 20, 2003 QuoteBlah, blah, blah. Do you guys hear a high ptiched whine in here? Is that how you conduct yourself when you find yourself in disagreement with someone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #43 March 20, 2003 Quote>The UN is not a governing body. So Iraq had no obligation to obey UN 1441? Then what's all that talk about inspections failing and whatnot? I think we're treating the UN somewhat schizophrenically. Iraq must obey the UN, since they represent the will of the world. We don't have to, since they're not a governing body. We should choose one or the other. Bill, I cannot find anywhere in the UN charter that it is a governing body. If you can, please show me. As for how we're treating it schizophrenically, at no time have I advocated that the UN was anything but a cooperative diplomatic collective of nations that use it by choice, not compulsion.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #44 March 20, 2003 No, actually, I do not, but it appears to be th eonly way to do it here. See my thread earlier today, people have proved empahtically in the last weeks that a truly logical debate is not possible on thei forum. Therefore: I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elder berries. GO FLYBOYS! KICK HIS ASS; TAKE HIS WALLET-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #45 March 20, 2003 QuoteThe US is going in there to get rid of the very problems you just listedWho appointed George Bush to the position of choosing who governs Iraq? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #46 March 20, 2003 QuoteWell noone paid attention then, so I might as well join the crew.That sounds like a bad idea to me...Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #47 March 20, 2003 QuoteTherefore: I fart in your general direction . . . In some middle eastern countries, that is taken as a sign of affection. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #48 March 20, 2003 QuoteTherefore: I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elder berries. Oh yeah?!?!? Well your Mother wears army boots, and your Father's a beggar! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #49 March 20, 2003 Honest, Bossman, we ARE trying to stay civil!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #50 March 20, 2003 Quote Therefore: I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elder berries. And if you continue down this path you'll be unable to post to my forums till after the war. I understand that you're all exited now with all the testosterone in the air but ask around if this is a battle you'd like to fight. Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
