Dissing the Statue of Liberty

[billvon 3,112]

Now this is interesting. What would we do if we discovered terrorists were plotting to take out the Statue of Liberty, a New York landmark symbolizing US values even more than the Twin Towers did? Would we feel the same way if this happened:

"A strong response like sending the Statue of Liberty back would be appropriate . . . This crazy idea is necessary at this point in order to give such a strong response to France," (Josh Wander of White Oak, PA) said.

Then there's this comic done back in August which has proven to be eerily prescient.

My god, people! Think! A disagreement over how to disarm Iraq is not worth destroying NATO, the UN, or one of our most cherished symbols of American freedom - unless, of course, the statue of liberty no longer represents the US. I hope we're not that far gone yet.

[wmw999 2,587]

OK, that's truly flaky. But I'd sure hope that, just as the commie pinkos are in the minority in the peace movement, that the flakes like this are in the flaky minority in the pro-Bush movement.

Y'all don't disabuse me of this notion, please???

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Guest]

Bill,

Calm down, willya? You're spooking the herd...

hehehe

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[diverdriver 7]

The statue of liberty represents justice. Represents the struggle to make a better country. It says that we stand up for what is right. We do not sit on the side lines. Yet, that is what France would have us continue to do. Sit, do nothing, for another 12 years. Enough is enough. It is time for action. Saddam must go.

[diverdriver 7]

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Y'all don't disabuse me of this notion, please???

Only if you don't underemphasize me. Or misunderestimate me. Or whatever.

[jraf 0]

Absolutely, I am for returning that useless thing to them. Also let's let them have Louisianna back...let's show them

jraf

Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui.
Muff #3275

[harryskydives 0]

I liked the cartoon. But, just to let you know how out of touch some people are. A friend, 30 y/o professional woman. Was worried about the announcement to invade Iraq yesterday. Because, She did not want us to have to fight the French. She thought the French were siding up with Iraq and and we are going to fight them also.

Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time...

[billvon 3,112]

>Yet, that is what France would have us continue to do.

Well, France would have them disarm through inspections, which is exactly - exactly - what we claimed we wanted. "War is a last resort," we said. "Saddam must disarm," we said. Now we've decided that the time for that is past, while France thinks that he should have at least another 30 days. In other times the US would have considered that a disagreement and worked it out; we used to be geniuses at diplomacy, and so maintained a lot of allies.

Now a disagreement over timing means that we would destroy a national symbol because it would piss off the French, and we really want to piss off the French - "give a strong response" to a country who favors diplomacy over war. It's a sad day for the prospect of a future free from war when we ridicule countries primarily because they're weak, and secondarily because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree on the details of a UN resolution. They're really pissing off the Empire, and the Emperor is not pleased.

[diverdriver 7]

Bill, remember free speach? It's one article. One point of view. Calm down. I doubt very much they are going to return the statue of liberty. Shhheeeshh. Man, talk about pressing your buttons.

[dkpbxman 0]

The Statue of Liberty has come to mean a lot to many New Yorkers and immigrants in general. I say keep it but figure out a way to raise the other arm too.

[Muenkel 0]

The Statue of Liberty is in New York Harbor???

Maybe I never noticed it because the Twin Towers were in the way.

Seriously Bill, that petition is ridiculous and will go nowhere. I don't think you should be concerned with it.

Besides, France will be our friend again...once they see we are winning the war.

Chris

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[billvon 3,112]

>Bill, remember free speach? It's one article. One point of view.

Unfortunately, I've seen far, far more than one article talking about how evil the french are for disagreeing with us. I think you're right in that this article was just meant to get people going (heck, it's probably a hoax) but there are people who are renaming french fries (which, of course, were named by US servicemen, not the french) for crying out loud. It's getting very silly.

RE the french fry thing - it takes a truly american point of view to rename a product so you don't _think_ you're supporting anything foreign, then keep eating it. Brazil is calling for a boycott of US _goods_ if the war starts, and that sort of thing is a little more effective - though it won't help in this case.

[MC208B 0]

Couldn't have said it better myself Chris. Mike

[MC208B 0]

Bill, that Tom Tomorrow is quite the cartoonist! Makes me laugh no matter the subject.

I don't think the Statue of Liberty will be departing anytime soon.

I'm wondering what the French don't want us to find in Iraq?

Mike

[jraf 0]

Brazil is calling for boycott of US goods cause the evil Brazilians are conspiring with the evil Germans and producing the Beatle. As we all know it was Adolf Hitler that ordered the rpoduction of the KdF Wagen (original name of the Beatle). There is therefor a clear connection to Nazi war crimes and we should prosecute all the Brazilians and all the Germans along with the French. I strongly suggest sentencing all Dutch, Belgian and Luxembourg citizens as well, just because the are in between.

Canadians are not quite decisive enough so let start with annecting Quebec and later we can take over the rest.

Mexico....yes we should invade Mexico and take all the Living Space we need from them, and put them all into labor camps - this way we will not need to pay them under the table.

Finally Cuba - let's just torpedo that island off the face of the planet. I definitely don't want a free Cuba, cause then all the tourists who support my God given state will go there.

jraf

Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui.
Muff #3275

[diverdriver 7]

Bwahahhahahaha...........ummm....ok....

But we can't torpedo Cuba. We want Jack Nicholson on that wire. We NEED him on that wire.

[jraf 0]

OK I agree, lets not torpedoe Cuba, but lets take all the sand of their beaches

jraf

Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui.
Muff #3275

[diverdriver 7]

Oh excellent idea. They've had it long enough really. I mean, if they deserved sand they would have a stronger military and people wouldn't be just walking past it to like come here. So they don't really need it.

[jceman 1]

You're glossing over one critical fact here, bill.

France has stated that they would not agree to any "deadline" that referred to disarmament by force, and would veto ANY attempt to impose such action. I put quotes around deadline because that is what is it without the threat of consequences behind it.

You have even stated that it is the threat of disarmament by force that has SH's knickers in a twist. Now would you explain what good it would do to give Iraq a 30-day "deadline" when there are no consequences should it be ignored?

Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money.

Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them?

[billvon 3,112]

>France has stated that they would not agree to any "deadline" that
>referred to disarmament by force, and would veto ANY attempt to
> impose such action. I put quotes around deadline because that is
> what is it without the threat of consequences behind it.

So talk them out of it. Give em 45 days with a deadline instead of 30 days without. They do change their minds on occasion - they voted for 1441 and they are now saying they will support an invasion if Hussein threatens to use WMD's. Diplomacy is the art of getting them to change their minds (in this case) one day sooner. Like I said we used to be really good at it.

[bmcd308 0]

Oh, no! Brazil boycotting US goods? What will American A/R clerks write off?

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[VectorBoy 0]

"A strong response like sending the Statue of Liberty back would be appropriate . . . This crazy idea is necessary at this point in order to give such a strong response to France,"

Too expensive to dismantle and ship back. Lets just dress her up like a bobs "big boy" or better still Jack as in jack in the box. After all we know who really invented the breakfast croisant~ wich. Glen

[rhino 0]

Send it back to France.. Replace it with a soldier saying goodbye to his children..

[VectorBoy 0]

[ As we all know it was Adolf Hitler that ordered the rpoduction of the KdF Wagen (original name of the Beatle). There is therefor a clear connection to Nazi war crimes and we should prosecute all the Brazilians and all the Germans along with the French.]

Yes but they also gave us the porche, all is forgiven.



[Mexico....yes we should invade Mexico and take all the Living Space we need from them, and put them all into labor camps - this way we will not need to pay them under the table.]

Already done CIA style, No battle groups and without
firing a single shot. We used middle aged and horny young co-eds as operatives and unmarked vessels of panamanian registry, No way to trace it back to our government.

Glen

[bodypilot90 0]

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My god, people! Think! A disagreement over how to disarm Iraq is not worth destroying NATO, the UN, or one of our most cherished symbols of American freedom - unless, of course, the statue of liberty no longer represents the US. I hope we're not that far gone yet.

agree with everything but the UN