Zinger 0 #26 March 24, 2003 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? ------Have a good one!-------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #27 March 24, 2003 Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zinger 0 #28 March 24, 2003 *** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. ------Have a good one!-------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #29 March 24, 2003 Quote*** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. Yeah well maybe the line of questioning is childish and out of line. But I guess everyone has their own set of priorities on things to think/talk about. I'm not gonna get in an argument over this, I simply think it's stupid to talk about "my army is better than yours" crap especially in the middle of a war. I'm not saying anything more on this subject. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #30 March 24, 2003 Quote Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Well said Kevin - Right now we're fighting a war together and each unit will play to it's own strengths. That said (and since Zinger asked so nicely): In the late '70's & early 80's the French Foreigh Legion had a training camp in French Guyana, or Surinam (somewhere hot & shitty anyway). One of the features of this camp was the "Mud Course", basically a 10 mile assault course set in a muddy swamp. It's difficulty was legendary (remember this was for the French FOREIGN Legion - although I suppose it could be used by the rest of the French Army to slow down their retreats). Anyway, both the Royal Marines and the US Marines have sent teams to complete this course (which is run against the clock - which is measured in days, hours & minutes!!!). Both the Royal Marines and the US Marines hold records for the time taken to complete the course... The Royal Marines held (& I think still hold) the record for fastest completion of the course, & the US Marines hold "another" record. Then again, the characteristics of these 2 "Marine" units is completely different. The US Marines is comparatively heavy on equipment and logistical support while the Royal Marines tend more toward being "light" infantry & (for want of a better term) skirmishers. In short, while the US Marines would be expected to smash 90% of something fast as hell, the Royal Marines would be better at dealing with the remaining 10%, like dealing with pockets of resistance after the initial defensive position has been smashed. Like I said, it's playing to your strengths. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #31 March 24, 2003 >I think now the 'anti-war protesters' are feeling proud to be 'Americans' > huh? I am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #32 March 24, 2003 'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' BWAAA.......[sly When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #33 March 24, 2003 QuoteI am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. I'm not Pro-War, don't get me wrong, but sometimes war is necessary, is unfortunate and inevitable the loss of human life, what I don't like, is these people, not like you, 'protesting' because the US is being the Bad Wolf when on the other side of the fence, atrocities are rampant. That's all I have to say about that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #34 March 24, 2003 When the Marines or the Para's where on tour in NI the IRA went south. Ass was kicked and they knew it, besides UK forces are well trained in urban combat. NI, Bosnia, Manchester, Suez, Palestine. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #35 March 24, 2003 Quote'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' Okay! <> Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #36 March 24, 2003 Quote>What the real problem is that there shouldn't be a newscast to > download at all. These interviews should not be seeing the light of > "media" at all. The Iraqi media should not even be there. Well, I agree - but the Geneva convention protections have been sorta diluted lately because this is a "new kind of war." No, it's not. No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. QuoteUS Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has insisted that al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects being held at the Guantanamo base in Cuba will not be given prisoner of war status. These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for PoW exchange. QuoteI know, this is completely different (i.e. we haven't shot anyone in the head in Guantanamo Bay) but it does indicate that we don't consider the Geneva Convention rules as ironclad as we used to. No, it doesn't. QuoteNot that the Iraqis would pay any attention if we did; They should, as the President noted on Sunday, those that are found to have participated in violations of the Geneva Convention will be treated as war criminals. Quotethey are defending their home, and people defending their home are more prone to desperate measures and less prone to the formalities of international warfare. If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? They did this in 1991 too, when they were defending their frontier in Kuwait, not necessarily their home. Quote> The media should not be the mechanism for finding out who's who, >and where. While I agree here too, I think we would rather find out via an 'unapproved' channel than not find out at all. So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. Al Jazeera and the rest of the media made a choice by giving Iraqi TV an audience outside Baghdad. I think they made a wrong decision.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,588 #37 March 24, 2003 >>'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. '' >Okay! > I'm sure glad I wasn't part of this particular discussion Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites n2skdvn 0 #38 March 24, 2003 boobies!!!!!!!hey lets go jump!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #39 March 27, 2003 ftp.skydivingmovies.com ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #40 March 27, 2003 Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #41 March 27, 2003 >No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the >Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. I didn't say that, I said we had diluted Geneva conventions because this is a "new kind of war." That's a direct quote from Rumsfeld, who used it to justify denying POW rights to combatant enemies captured in Afghanistan. If you don't understand what he meant you'd have to ask him. I'm not sure I understand either. >These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for > PoW exchange. The Taliban was the governing body of Afghanistan. Taliban fighters are being held in contradiction to Geneva protocols. Unless you maintain that, if we completely destroy a government, Geneva protocols no longer apply, and you can do whatever you choose with POW's? >If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? I am not excusing them; indeed, I am sure we will kill them all, and no one who so much as points a weapon at US troops should have any expectation of survival. I am giving you a reason why they are fighting more fiercely. I have a feeling you would fight more fiercely as well if you were fighting to defend your home from an invading army. >So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. I am. This is one of those shades of gray things that many avoid thinking about because it's unpleasant. Best case - the Iraqi military notifies our military through proper channels that americans have died. Worst case - they die and their families never know what happened to them. Middle case - Al Jazeera shows disturbing video that allows the US military to identify the dead. Should they have avoided showing the video? Yes. Am I glad their families at least know their fate, so they can grieve and begin to deal with their loss? Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #42 March 27, 2003 It's a Marine thing...you wouldn't understand.....So what if it's a childish dick thing.....It's still a Marine thing you wouldn't understand.JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #43 March 27, 2003 Quote Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. It helps to think of them as human "smart weapons". The US forces wade in and do the wholesale smashing, then stand aside and let the specialists (Royal Marine Commando, SAS) do the knifework. If I was a Fedayeen, still alive up until now, I'd seriously consider getting lost, especially if I knew Gurkhas were coming ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #44 March 27, 2003 I have/had friends who were/are Royal Marines. I have a lot of respect for them. I surely don't think that two teams of guys running an obstical course is a very good judge or indicator of who's the best. I would like to just throw a little history out there. I am proud of it. Besides, you might just learn something. (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters)a. The BATTLE OF BLADENSBURG: In August of 1814, 103 Marines and 400 sailors made a vain attempt to block a force of 4,000 disciplined British troops from advancing on Washington. The Marines stopped three headlong charges before finally being outflanked and driven back. The British then moved down Bladensburg Road to Washington where they burned a number of public buildings before retiring to their vessels in the Chesapeake Bay. b. The BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS: In January of 1815, Marines under the command of General Andrew Jackson soundly defeated British Forces that were attacking the city of New Orleans. The British lost approximately 2,000 men while American losses were less than 100. c. The BATTLE OF BELLEAU WOOD: Marines fought one of their greatest battles in history at Belleau Wood, France, during World War I. Marines helped to crush a German offensive at Belleau Wood that threatened Paris. In honor of the Marines who fought there, the French renamed the area "the Wood of the Brigade of Marines." German intelligence evaluated the Marines as "storm troops" -- the highest rating on the enemy fighting scale. In reference to the Marine's ferocious fighting ability, German troops called their new enemy "Teufelhunden" or "Devildogs," a nickname in which Marines share pride. d. The BATTLE OF WAKE ISLAND: In 1941, following the air attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese struck Wake Island on 8 December. Despite being heavily outnumbered, the Marines mounted a courageous defense before finally falling on 23 December. This small force of Marines caused an extraordinary number of Japanese casualties and damage to the invading force. e. The BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL: On 7 August 1942, the 1st Marine Division landed on the beaches of Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands and launched the first United States land offensive of World War II. This battle marked the first combat test of the new amphibious doctrine, and also provided a crucial turning point of the war in the Pacific by providing a base to launch further invasions of Japanese-held islands. Amphibious landings followed on the remaining Solomon Islands including New Georgia, Choiseul (Feint), and Bougainville. f. The BATTLE OF TARAWA: The Gilbert Islands were the first in the line of advance for the offensive in the Central Pacific. The prime objective was the Tarawa Atoll and Betio Island which had been fortified to the point that the Japanese commander proclaimed that it would take a millon Americans 100 years to conquer it. On 20 November 1943, Marines landed and secured the island within 76 hours, but paid a heavy price in doing so. Because of an extended reef, landing craft could not cross it, and Marines were offloaded hundreds of yards from the beaches. This led to heavy losses from enemy fire. Additionally, many Marines drowned while attempting to wade ashore. g. The BATTLE OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS: Due to the need for airfields by the Air Force and advanced bases for the Navy, the Marianas were invaded. This was accomplished by landings on the islands of Saipan, Guam, and Tinian. During June and July of 1943, Lieutenant General Holland M. Smith led a combined invasion force of Marines and soldiers that totaled over 136,000. This was the greatest number of troops, up to that time, to operate in the field under Marine command. h. The BATTLE OF IWO JIMA: On 19 February 1945, Marines landed on Iwo Jima in what was the largest all-Marine battle in history. It was also the bloodiest in Marine Corps history. The Marine Corps suffered over 23,300 casualties. The capture of Iwo Jima greatly increased the air support and bombing operations against the Japanese home islands. Of the savage battle, Admiral Chester W. Nimitz said, "Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." i. The BATTLE OF OKINAWA: In April of 1945, Marines and soldiers landed and secured the island of Okinawa. This marked the last large action of World War II. Due to the death of the Army commander, Major General Roy S. Geiger assumed command of the 10th Army and became the only Marine officer ever to have commanded a field Army. j. The BATTLE OF THE CHOSIN RESERVOIR: After pushing far into North Korea during November of 1950, Marines were cut off after the Chinese Communist Forces entered the war. Despite facing a 10-division force sent to annihilate them, Marines smashed seven enemy divisions in their march from the Chosin Reservoir. The major significance of this retrograde movement was that Marines brought out all operable equipment, properly evacuated their wounded and dead, and maintained tactical integrity. k. The SECOND BATTLE OF KHE SANH: In January of 1968, Marines defended the firebase at Khe Sanh from an attack force of two North Vietnamese Army (NVA) divisions. Despite heavy bombardment, the Marines held out for over two and a half months before finally forcing the enemy forces to withdraw. l. The BATTLE OF HUE CITY: During the Vietnamese holiday of Tet in January of 1968, Communist forces launched a surprise offensive by infiltrating large numbers of their troops into the major population centers of Hue City, South Vietnam. A near division-size unit of NVA troops occupied the city of Hue and the Citadel. Marines fought in built-up areas for the first time since the Korean War foregoing the application of heavy arms to minimize civilian casualties. Fighting was house-to-house with progress measured in yards. The city was secured on 25 February 1968. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. 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kevin922 0 #27 March 24, 2003 Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zinger 0 #28 March 24, 2003 *** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. ------Have a good one!-------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #29 March 24, 2003 Quote*** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. Yeah well maybe the line of questioning is childish and out of line. But I guess everyone has their own set of priorities on things to think/talk about. I'm not gonna get in an argument over this, I simply think it's stupid to talk about "my army is better than yours" crap especially in the middle of a war. I'm not saying anything more on this subject. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #30 March 24, 2003 Quote Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Well said Kevin - Right now we're fighting a war together and each unit will play to it's own strengths. That said (and since Zinger asked so nicely): In the late '70's & early 80's the French Foreigh Legion had a training camp in French Guyana, or Surinam (somewhere hot & shitty anyway). One of the features of this camp was the "Mud Course", basically a 10 mile assault course set in a muddy swamp. It's difficulty was legendary (remember this was for the French FOREIGN Legion - although I suppose it could be used by the rest of the French Army to slow down their retreats). Anyway, both the Royal Marines and the US Marines have sent teams to complete this course (which is run against the clock - which is measured in days, hours & minutes!!!). Both the Royal Marines and the US Marines hold records for the time taken to complete the course... The Royal Marines held (& I think still hold) the record for fastest completion of the course, & the US Marines hold "another" record. Then again, the characteristics of these 2 "Marine" units is completely different. The US Marines is comparatively heavy on equipment and logistical support while the Royal Marines tend more toward being "light" infantry & (for want of a better term) skirmishers. In short, while the US Marines would be expected to smash 90% of something fast as hell, the Royal Marines would be better at dealing with the remaining 10%, like dealing with pockets of resistance after the initial defensive position has been smashed. Like I said, it's playing to your strengths. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #31 March 24, 2003 >I think now the 'anti-war protesters' are feeling proud to be 'Americans' > huh? I am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #32 March 24, 2003 'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' BWAAA.......[sly When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #33 March 24, 2003 QuoteI am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. I'm not Pro-War, don't get me wrong, but sometimes war is necessary, is unfortunate and inevitable the loss of human life, what I don't like, is these people, not like you, 'protesting' because the US is being the Bad Wolf when on the other side of the fence, atrocities are rampant. That's all I have to say about that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #34 March 24, 2003 When the Marines or the Para's where on tour in NI the IRA went south. Ass was kicked and they knew it, besides UK forces are well trained in urban combat. NI, Bosnia, Manchester, Suez, Palestine. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #35 March 24, 2003 Quote'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' Okay! <> Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #36 March 24, 2003 Quote>What the real problem is that there shouldn't be a newscast to > download at all. These interviews should not be seeing the light of > "media" at all. The Iraqi media should not even be there. Well, I agree - but the Geneva convention protections have been sorta diluted lately because this is a "new kind of war." No, it's not. No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. QuoteUS Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has insisted that al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects being held at the Guantanamo base in Cuba will not be given prisoner of war status. These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for PoW exchange. QuoteI know, this is completely different (i.e. we haven't shot anyone in the head in Guantanamo Bay) but it does indicate that we don't consider the Geneva Convention rules as ironclad as we used to. No, it doesn't. QuoteNot that the Iraqis would pay any attention if we did; They should, as the President noted on Sunday, those that are found to have participated in violations of the Geneva Convention will be treated as war criminals. Quotethey are defending their home, and people defending their home are more prone to desperate measures and less prone to the formalities of international warfare. If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? They did this in 1991 too, when they were defending their frontier in Kuwait, not necessarily their home. Quote> The media should not be the mechanism for finding out who's who, >and where. While I agree here too, I think we would rather find out via an 'unapproved' channel than not find out at all. So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. Al Jazeera and the rest of the media made a choice by giving Iraqi TV an audience outside Baghdad. I think they made a wrong decision.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,588 #37 March 24, 2003 >>'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. '' >Okay! > I'm sure glad I wasn't part of this particular discussion Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites n2skdvn 0 #38 March 24, 2003 boobies!!!!!!!hey lets go jump!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #39 March 27, 2003 ftp.skydivingmovies.com ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #40 March 27, 2003 Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #41 March 27, 2003 >No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the >Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. I didn't say that, I said we had diluted Geneva conventions because this is a "new kind of war." That's a direct quote from Rumsfeld, who used it to justify denying POW rights to combatant enemies captured in Afghanistan. If you don't understand what he meant you'd have to ask him. I'm not sure I understand either. >These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for > PoW exchange. The Taliban was the governing body of Afghanistan. Taliban fighters are being held in contradiction to Geneva protocols. Unless you maintain that, if we completely destroy a government, Geneva protocols no longer apply, and you can do whatever you choose with POW's? >If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? I am not excusing them; indeed, I am sure we will kill them all, and no one who so much as points a weapon at US troops should have any expectation of survival. I am giving you a reason why they are fighting more fiercely. I have a feeling you would fight more fiercely as well if you were fighting to defend your home from an invading army. >So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. I am. This is one of those shades of gray things that many avoid thinking about because it's unpleasant. Best case - the Iraqi military notifies our military through proper channels that americans have died. Worst case - they die and their families never know what happened to them. Middle case - Al Jazeera shows disturbing video that allows the US military to identify the dead. Should they have avoided showing the video? Yes. Am I glad their families at least know their fate, so they can grieve and begin to deal with their loss? Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #42 March 27, 2003 It's a Marine thing...you wouldn't understand.....So what if it's a childish dick thing.....It's still a Marine thing you wouldn't understand.JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #43 March 27, 2003 Quote Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. It helps to think of them as human "smart weapons". The US forces wade in and do the wholesale smashing, then stand aside and let the specialists (Royal Marine Commando, SAS) do the knifework. If I was a Fedayeen, still alive up until now, I'd seriously consider getting lost, especially if I knew Gurkhas were coming ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #44 March 27, 2003 I have/had friends who were/are Royal Marines. I have a lot of respect for them. I surely don't think that two teams of guys running an obstical course is a very good judge or indicator of who's the best. I would like to just throw a little history out there. I am proud of it. Besides, you might just learn something. (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters)a. The BATTLE OF BLADENSBURG: In August of 1814, 103 Marines and 400 sailors made a vain attempt to block a force of 4,000 disciplined British troops from advancing on Washington. The Marines stopped three headlong charges before finally being outflanked and driven back. The British then moved down Bladensburg Road to Washington where they burned a number of public buildings before retiring to their vessels in the Chesapeake Bay. b. The BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS: In January of 1815, Marines under the command of General Andrew Jackson soundly defeated British Forces that were attacking the city of New Orleans. The British lost approximately 2,000 men while American losses were less than 100. c. The BATTLE OF BELLEAU WOOD: Marines fought one of their greatest battles in history at Belleau Wood, France, during World War I. Marines helped to crush a German offensive at Belleau Wood that threatened Paris. In honor of the Marines who fought there, the French renamed the area "the Wood of the Brigade of Marines." German intelligence evaluated the Marines as "storm troops" -- the highest rating on the enemy fighting scale. In reference to the Marine's ferocious fighting ability, German troops called their new enemy "Teufelhunden" or "Devildogs," a nickname in which Marines share pride. d. The BATTLE OF WAKE ISLAND: In 1941, following the air attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese struck Wake Island on 8 December. Despite being heavily outnumbered, the Marines mounted a courageous defense before finally falling on 23 December. This small force of Marines caused an extraordinary number of Japanese casualties and damage to the invading force. e. The BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL: On 7 August 1942, the 1st Marine Division landed on the beaches of Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands and launched the first United States land offensive of World War II. This battle marked the first combat test of the new amphibious doctrine, and also provided a crucial turning point of the war in the Pacific by providing a base to launch further invasions of Japanese-held islands. Amphibious landings followed on the remaining Solomon Islands including New Georgia, Choiseul (Feint), and Bougainville. f. The BATTLE OF TARAWA: The Gilbert Islands were the first in the line of advance for the offensive in the Central Pacific. The prime objective was the Tarawa Atoll and Betio Island which had been fortified to the point that the Japanese commander proclaimed that it would take a millon Americans 100 years to conquer it. On 20 November 1943, Marines landed and secured the island within 76 hours, but paid a heavy price in doing so. Because of an extended reef, landing craft could not cross it, and Marines were offloaded hundreds of yards from the beaches. This led to heavy losses from enemy fire. Additionally, many Marines drowned while attempting to wade ashore. g. The BATTLE OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS: Due to the need for airfields by the Air Force and advanced bases for the Navy, the Marianas were invaded. This was accomplished by landings on the islands of Saipan, Guam, and Tinian. During June and July of 1943, Lieutenant General Holland M. Smith led a combined invasion force of Marines and soldiers that totaled over 136,000. This was the greatest number of troops, up to that time, to operate in the field under Marine command. h. The BATTLE OF IWO JIMA: On 19 February 1945, Marines landed on Iwo Jima in what was the largest all-Marine battle in history. It was also the bloodiest in Marine Corps history. The Marine Corps suffered over 23,300 casualties. The capture of Iwo Jima greatly increased the air support and bombing operations against the Japanese home islands. Of the savage battle, Admiral Chester W. Nimitz said, "Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." i. The BATTLE OF OKINAWA: In April of 1945, Marines and soldiers landed and secured the island of Okinawa. This marked the last large action of World War II. Due to the death of the Army commander, Major General Roy S. Geiger assumed command of the 10th Army and became the only Marine officer ever to have commanded a field Army. j. The BATTLE OF THE CHOSIN RESERVOIR: After pushing far into North Korea during November of 1950, Marines were cut off after the Chinese Communist Forces entered the war. Despite facing a 10-division force sent to annihilate them, Marines smashed seven enemy divisions in their march from the Chosin Reservoir. The major significance of this retrograde movement was that Marines brought out all operable equipment, properly evacuated their wounded and dead, and maintained tactical integrity. k. The SECOND BATTLE OF KHE SANH: In January of 1968, Marines defended the firebase at Khe Sanh from an attack force of two North Vietnamese Army (NVA) divisions. Despite heavy bombardment, the Marines held out for over two and a half months before finally forcing the enemy forces to withdraw. l. The BATTLE OF HUE CITY: During the Vietnamese holiday of Tet in January of 1968, Communist forces launched a surprise offensive by infiltrating large numbers of their troops into the major population centers of Hue City, South Vietnam. A near division-size unit of NVA troops occupied the city of Hue and the Citadel. Marines fought in built-up areas for the first time since the Korean War foregoing the application of heavy arms to minimize civilian casualties. Fighting was house-to-house with progress measured in yards. The city was secured on 25 February 1968. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. 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Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goindown 0 #49 March 27, 2003 When you made this statement - - - - (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters) Were you implying that you have a small dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaz 0 #50 March 27, 2003 doh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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Zinger 0 #28 March 24, 2003 *** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. ------Have a good one!-------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #29 March 24, 2003 Quote*** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. Yeah well maybe the line of questioning is childish and out of line. But I guess everyone has their own set of priorities on things to think/talk about. I'm not gonna get in an argument over this, I simply think it's stupid to talk about "my army is better than yours" crap especially in the middle of a war. I'm not saying anything more on this subject. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #30 March 24, 2003 Quote Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Well said Kevin - Right now we're fighting a war together and each unit will play to it's own strengths. That said (and since Zinger asked so nicely): In the late '70's & early 80's the French Foreigh Legion had a training camp in French Guyana, or Surinam (somewhere hot & shitty anyway). One of the features of this camp was the "Mud Course", basically a 10 mile assault course set in a muddy swamp. It's difficulty was legendary (remember this was for the French FOREIGN Legion - although I suppose it could be used by the rest of the French Army to slow down their retreats). Anyway, both the Royal Marines and the US Marines have sent teams to complete this course (which is run against the clock - which is measured in days, hours & minutes!!!). Both the Royal Marines and the US Marines hold records for the time taken to complete the course... The Royal Marines held (& I think still hold) the record for fastest completion of the course, & the US Marines hold "another" record. Then again, the characteristics of these 2 "Marine" units is completely different. The US Marines is comparatively heavy on equipment and logistical support while the Royal Marines tend more toward being "light" infantry & (for want of a better term) skirmishers. In short, while the US Marines would be expected to smash 90% of something fast as hell, the Royal Marines would be better at dealing with the remaining 10%, like dealing with pockets of resistance after the initial defensive position has been smashed. Like I said, it's playing to your strengths. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #31 March 24, 2003 >I think now the 'anti-war protesters' are feeling proud to be 'Americans' > huh? I am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #32 March 24, 2003 'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' BWAAA.......[sly When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #33 March 24, 2003 QuoteI am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. I'm not Pro-War, don't get me wrong, but sometimes war is necessary, is unfortunate and inevitable the loss of human life, what I don't like, is these people, not like you, 'protesting' because the US is being the Bad Wolf when on the other side of the fence, atrocities are rampant. That's all I have to say about that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #34 March 24, 2003 When the Marines or the Para's where on tour in NI the IRA went south. Ass was kicked and they knew it, besides UK forces are well trained in urban combat. NI, Bosnia, Manchester, Suez, Palestine. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #35 March 24, 2003 Quote'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' Okay! <> Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #36 March 24, 2003 Quote>What the real problem is that there shouldn't be a newscast to > download at all. These interviews should not be seeing the light of > "media" at all. The Iraqi media should not even be there. Well, I agree - but the Geneva convention protections have been sorta diluted lately because this is a "new kind of war." No, it's not. No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. QuoteUS Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has insisted that al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects being held at the Guantanamo base in Cuba will not be given prisoner of war status. These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for PoW exchange. QuoteI know, this is completely different (i.e. we haven't shot anyone in the head in Guantanamo Bay) but it does indicate that we don't consider the Geneva Convention rules as ironclad as we used to. No, it doesn't. QuoteNot that the Iraqis would pay any attention if we did; They should, as the President noted on Sunday, those that are found to have participated in violations of the Geneva Convention will be treated as war criminals. Quotethey are defending their home, and people defending their home are more prone to desperate measures and less prone to the formalities of international warfare. If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? They did this in 1991 too, when they were defending their frontier in Kuwait, not necessarily their home. Quote> The media should not be the mechanism for finding out who's who, >and where. While I agree here too, I think we would rather find out via an 'unapproved' channel than not find out at all. So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. Al Jazeera and the rest of the media made a choice by giving Iraqi TV an audience outside Baghdad. I think they made a wrong decision.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,588 #37 March 24, 2003 >>'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. '' >Okay! > I'm sure glad I wasn't part of this particular discussion Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites n2skdvn 0 #38 March 24, 2003 boobies!!!!!!!hey lets go jump!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #39 March 27, 2003 ftp.skydivingmovies.com ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #40 March 27, 2003 Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #41 March 27, 2003 >No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the >Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. I didn't say that, I said we had diluted Geneva conventions because this is a "new kind of war." That's a direct quote from Rumsfeld, who used it to justify denying POW rights to combatant enemies captured in Afghanistan. If you don't understand what he meant you'd have to ask him. I'm not sure I understand either. >These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for > PoW exchange. The Taliban was the governing body of Afghanistan. Taliban fighters are being held in contradiction to Geneva protocols. Unless you maintain that, if we completely destroy a government, Geneva protocols no longer apply, and you can do whatever you choose with POW's? >If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? I am not excusing them; indeed, I am sure we will kill them all, and no one who so much as points a weapon at US troops should have any expectation of survival. I am giving you a reason why they are fighting more fiercely. I have a feeling you would fight more fiercely as well if you were fighting to defend your home from an invading army. >So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. I am. This is one of those shades of gray things that many avoid thinking about because it's unpleasant. Best case - the Iraqi military notifies our military through proper channels that americans have died. Worst case - they die and their families never know what happened to them. Middle case - Al Jazeera shows disturbing video that allows the US military to identify the dead. Should they have avoided showing the video? Yes. Am I glad their families at least know their fate, so they can grieve and begin to deal with their loss? Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #42 March 27, 2003 It's a Marine thing...you wouldn't understand.....So what if it's a childish dick thing.....It's still a Marine thing you wouldn't understand.JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #43 March 27, 2003 Quote Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. It helps to think of them as human "smart weapons". The US forces wade in and do the wholesale smashing, then stand aside and let the specialists (Royal Marine Commando, SAS) do the knifework. If I was a Fedayeen, still alive up until now, I'd seriously consider getting lost, especially if I knew Gurkhas were coming ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #44 March 27, 2003 I have/had friends who were/are Royal Marines. I have a lot of respect for them. I surely don't think that two teams of guys running an obstical course is a very good judge or indicator of who's the best. I would like to just throw a little history out there. I am proud of it. Besides, you might just learn something. (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters)a. The BATTLE OF BLADENSBURG: In August of 1814, 103 Marines and 400 sailors made a vain attempt to block a force of 4,000 disciplined British troops from advancing on Washington. The Marines stopped three headlong charges before finally being outflanked and driven back. The British then moved down Bladensburg Road to Washington where they burned a number of public buildings before retiring to their vessels in the Chesapeake Bay. b. The BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS: In January of 1815, Marines under the command of General Andrew Jackson soundly defeated British Forces that were attacking the city of New Orleans. The British lost approximately 2,000 men while American losses were less than 100. c. The BATTLE OF BELLEAU WOOD: Marines fought one of their greatest battles in history at Belleau Wood, France, during World War I. Marines helped to crush a German offensive at Belleau Wood that threatened Paris. In honor of the Marines who fought there, the French renamed the area "the Wood of the Brigade of Marines." German intelligence evaluated the Marines as "storm troops" -- the highest rating on the enemy fighting scale. In reference to the Marine's ferocious fighting ability, German troops called their new enemy "Teufelhunden" or "Devildogs," a nickname in which Marines share pride. d. The BATTLE OF WAKE ISLAND: In 1941, following the air attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese struck Wake Island on 8 December. Despite being heavily outnumbered, the Marines mounted a courageous defense before finally falling on 23 December. This small force of Marines caused an extraordinary number of Japanese casualties and damage to the invading force. e. The BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL: On 7 August 1942, the 1st Marine Division landed on the beaches of Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands and launched the first United States land offensive of World War II. This battle marked the first combat test of the new amphibious doctrine, and also provided a crucial turning point of the war in the Pacific by providing a base to launch further invasions of Japanese-held islands. Amphibious landings followed on the remaining Solomon Islands including New Georgia, Choiseul (Feint), and Bougainville. f. The BATTLE OF TARAWA: The Gilbert Islands were the first in the line of advance for the offensive in the Central Pacific. The prime objective was the Tarawa Atoll and Betio Island which had been fortified to the point that the Japanese commander proclaimed that it would take a millon Americans 100 years to conquer it. On 20 November 1943, Marines landed and secured the island within 76 hours, but paid a heavy price in doing so. Because of an extended reef, landing craft could not cross it, and Marines were offloaded hundreds of yards from the beaches. This led to heavy losses from enemy fire. Additionally, many Marines drowned while attempting to wade ashore. g. The BATTLE OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS: Due to the need for airfields by the Air Force and advanced bases for the Navy, the Marianas were invaded. This was accomplished by landings on the islands of Saipan, Guam, and Tinian. During June and July of 1943, Lieutenant General Holland M. Smith led a combined invasion force of Marines and soldiers that totaled over 136,000. This was the greatest number of troops, up to that time, to operate in the field under Marine command. h. The BATTLE OF IWO JIMA: On 19 February 1945, Marines landed on Iwo Jima in what was the largest all-Marine battle in history. It was also the bloodiest in Marine Corps history. The Marine Corps suffered over 23,300 casualties. The capture of Iwo Jima greatly increased the air support and bombing operations against the Japanese home islands. Of the savage battle, Admiral Chester W. Nimitz said, "Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." i. The BATTLE OF OKINAWA: In April of 1945, Marines and soldiers landed and secured the island of Okinawa. This marked the last large action of World War II. Due to the death of the Army commander, Major General Roy S. Geiger assumed command of the 10th Army and became the only Marine officer ever to have commanded a field Army. j. The BATTLE OF THE CHOSIN RESERVOIR: After pushing far into North Korea during November of 1950, Marines were cut off after the Chinese Communist Forces entered the war. Despite facing a 10-division force sent to annihilate them, Marines smashed seven enemy divisions in their march from the Chosin Reservoir. The major significance of this retrograde movement was that Marines brought out all operable equipment, properly evacuated their wounded and dead, and maintained tactical integrity. k. The SECOND BATTLE OF KHE SANH: In January of 1968, Marines defended the firebase at Khe Sanh from an attack force of two North Vietnamese Army (NVA) divisions. Despite heavy bombardment, the Marines held out for over two and a half months before finally forcing the enemy forces to withdraw. l. The BATTLE OF HUE CITY: During the Vietnamese holiday of Tet in January of 1968, Communist forces launched a surprise offensive by infiltrating large numbers of their troops into the major population centers of Hue City, South Vietnam. A near division-size unit of NVA troops occupied the city of Hue and the Citadel. Marines fought in built-up areas for the first time since the Korean War foregoing the application of heavy arms to minimize civilian casualties. Fighting was house-to-house with progress measured in yards. The city was secured on 25 February 1968. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #45 March 27, 2003 http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/streams/video/2003/3/23/1_146027_1_12.asf ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoobieCootie 0 #46 March 27, 2003 Quotesomething tells me their server isnt long for this world Believe it or not, the site's been hacked by some "Patriot, Freedom Cyber Force Militia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoobieCootie 0 #47 March 27, 2003 Speaking of Gurkhas, I want me one of these Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ojf1982 0 #48 March 27, 2003 Where is the video on skydivingmovies.com? I am looking at the uploads folder and I do not see it there.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goindown 0 #49 March 27, 2003 When you made this statement - - - - (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters) Were you implying that you have a small dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaz 0 #50 March 27, 2003 doh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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kevin922 0 #29 March 24, 2003 Quote*** Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Quote All I did was ask a question and I asked it politely at that, The reason I asked is because I would like to know and for that reason only. Yeah well maybe the line of questioning is childish and out of line. But I guess everyone has their own set of priorities on things to think/talk about. I'm not gonna get in an argument over this, I simply think it's stupid to talk about "my army is better than yours" crap especially in the middle of a war. I'm not saying anything more on this subject. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #30 March 24, 2003 Quote Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Well said Kevin - Right now we're fighting a war together and each unit will play to it's own strengths. That said (and since Zinger asked so nicely): In the late '70's & early 80's the French Foreigh Legion had a training camp in French Guyana, or Surinam (somewhere hot & shitty anyway). One of the features of this camp was the "Mud Course", basically a 10 mile assault course set in a muddy swamp. It's difficulty was legendary (remember this was for the French FOREIGN Legion - although I suppose it could be used by the rest of the French Army to slow down their retreats). Anyway, both the Royal Marines and the US Marines have sent teams to complete this course (which is run against the clock - which is measured in days, hours & minutes!!!). Both the Royal Marines and the US Marines hold records for the time taken to complete the course... The Royal Marines held (& I think still hold) the record for fastest completion of the course, & the US Marines hold "another" record. Then again, the characteristics of these 2 "Marine" units is completely different. The US Marines is comparatively heavy on equipment and logistical support while the Royal Marines tend more toward being "light" infantry & (for want of a better term) skirmishers. In short, while the US Marines would be expected to smash 90% of something fast as hell, the Royal Marines would be better at dealing with the remaining 10%, like dealing with pockets of resistance after the initial defensive position has been smashed. Like I said, it's playing to your strengths. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #31 March 24, 2003 >I think now the 'anti-war protesters' are feeling proud to be 'Americans' > huh? I am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #32 March 24, 2003 'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' BWAAA.......[sly When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #33 March 24, 2003 QuoteI am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. I'm not Pro-War, don't get me wrong, but sometimes war is necessary, is unfortunate and inevitable the loss of human life, what I don't like, is these people, not like you, 'protesting' because the US is being the Bad Wolf when on the other side of the fence, atrocities are rampant. That's all I have to say about that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #34 March 24, 2003 When the Marines or the Para's where on tour in NI the IRA went south. Ass was kicked and they knew it, besides UK forces are well trained in urban combat. NI, Bosnia, Manchester, Suez, Palestine. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #35 March 24, 2003 Quote'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' Okay! <> Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #36 March 24, 2003 Quote>What the real problem is that there shouldn't be a newscast to > download at all. These interviews should not be seeing the light of > "media" at all. The Iraqi media should not even be there. Well, I agree - but the Geneva convention protections have been sorta diluted lately because this is a "new kind of war." No, it's not. No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. QuoteUS Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has insisted that al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects being held at the Guantanamo base in Cuba will not be given prisoner of war status. These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for PoW exchange. QuoteI know, this is completely different (i.e. we haven't shot anyone in the head in Guantanamo Bay) but it does indicate that we don't consider the Geneva Convention rules as ironclad as we used to. No, it doesn't. QuoteNot that the Iraqis would pay any attention if we did; They should, as the President noted on Sunday, those that are found to have participated in violations of the Geneva Convention will be treated as war criminals. Quotethey are defending their home, and people defending their home are more prone to desperate measures and less prone to the formalities of international warfare. If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? They did this in 1991 too, when they were defending their frontier in Kuwait, not necessarily their home. Quote> The media should not be the mechanism for finding out who's who, >and where. While I agree here too, I think we would rather find out via an 'unapproved' channel than not find out at all. So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. Al Jazeera and the rest of the media made a choice by giving Iraqi TV an audience outside Baghdad. I think they made a wrong decision.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,588 #37 March 24, 2003 >>'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. '' >Okay! > I'm sure glad I wasn't part of this particular discussion Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites n2skdvn 0 #38 March 24, 2003 boobies!!!!!!!hey lets go jump!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #39 March 27, 2003 ftp.skydivingmovies.com ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #40 March 27, 2003 Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #41 March 27, 2003 >No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the >Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. I didn't say that, I said we had diluted Geneva conventions because this is a "new kind of war." That's a direct quote from Rumsfeld, who used it to justify denying POW rights to combatant enemies captured in Afghanistan. If you don't understand what he meant you'd have to ask him. I'm not sure I understand either. >These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for > PoW exchange. The Taliban was the governing body of Afghanistan. Taliban fighters are being held in contradiction to Geneva protocols. Unless you maintain that, if we completely destroy a government, Geneva protocols no longer apply, and you can do whatever you choose with POW's? >If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? I am not excusing them; indeed, I am sure we will kill them all, and no one who so much as points a weapon at US troops should have any expectation of survival. I am giving you a reason why they are fighting more fiercely. I have a feeling you would fight more fiercely as well if you were fighting to defend your home from an invading army. >So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. I am. This is one of those shades of gray things that many avoid thinking about because it's unpleasant. Best case - the Iraqi military notifies our military through proper channels that americans have died. Worst case - they die and their families never know what happened to them. Middle case - Al Jazeera shows disturbing video that allows the US military to identify the dead. Should they have avoided showing the video? Yes. Am I glad their families at least know their fate, so they can grieve and begin to deal with their loss? Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JJohnson 0 #42 March 27, 2003 It's a Marine thing...you wouldn't understand.....So what if it's a childish dick thing.....It's still a Marine thing you wouldn't understand.JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #43 March 27, 2003 Quote Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. It helps to think of them as human "smart weapons". The US forces wade in and do the wholesale smashing, then stand aside and let the specialists (Royal Marine Commando, SAS) do the knifework. If I was a Fedayeen, still alive up until now, I'd seriously consider getting lost, especially if I knew Gurkhas were coming ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #44 March 27, 2003 I have/had friends who were/are Royal Marines. I have a lot of respect for them. I surely don't think that two teams of guys running an obstical course is a very good judge or indicator of who's the best. I would like to just throw a little history out there. I am proud of it. Besides, you might just learn something. (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters)a. The BATTLE OF BLADENSBURG: In August of 1814, 103 Marines and 400 sailors made a vain attempt to block a force of 4,000 disciplined British troops from advancing on Washington. The Marines stopped three headlong charges before finally being outflanked and driven back. The British then moved down Bladensburg Road to Washington where they burned a number of public buildings before retiring to their vessels in the Chesapeake Bay. b. The BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS: In January of 1815, Marines under the command of General Andrew Jackson soundly defeated British Forces that were attacking the city of New Orleans. The British lost approximately 2,000 men while American losses were less than 100. c. The BATTLE OF BELLEAU WOOD: Marines fought one of their greatest battles in history at Belleau Wood, France, during World War I. Marines helped to crush a German offensive at Belleau Wood that threatened Paris. In honor of the Marines who fought there, the French renamed the area "the Wood of the Brigade of Marines." German intelligence evaluated the Marines as "storm troops" -- the highest rating on the enemy fighting scale. In reference to the Marine's ferocious fighting ability, German troops called their new enemy "Teufelhunden" or "Devildogs," a nickname in which Marines share pride. d. The BATTLE OF WAKE ISLAND: In 1941, following the air attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese struck Wake Island on 8 December. Despite being heavily outnumbered, the Marines mounted a courageous defense before finally falling on 23 December. This small force of Marines caused an extraordinary number of Japanese casualties and damage to the invading force. e. The BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL: On 7 August 1942, the 1st Marine Division landed on the beaches of Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands and launched the first United States land offensive of World War II. This battle marked the first combat test of the new amphibious doctrine, and also provided a crucial turning point of the war in the Pacific by providing a base to launch further invasions of Japanese-held islands. Amphibious landings followed on the remaining Solomon Islands including New Georgia, Choiseul (Feint), and Bougainville. f. The BATTLE OF TARAWA: The Gilbert Islands were the first in the line of advance for the offensive in the Central Pacific. The prime objective was the Tarawa Atoll and Betio Island which had been fortified to the point that the Japanese commander proclaimed that it would take a millon Americans 100 years to conquer it. On 20 November 1943, Marines landed and secured the island within 76 hours, but paid a heavy price in doing so. Because of an extended reef, landing craft could not cross it, and Marines were offloaded hundreds of yards from the beaches. This led to heavy losses from enemy fire. Additionally, many Marines drowned while attempting to wade ashore. g. The BATTLE OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS: Due to the need for airfields by the Air Force and advanced bases for the Navy, the Marianas were invaded. This was accomplished by landings on the islands of Saipan, Guam, and Tinian. During June and July of 1943, Lieutenant General Holland M. Smith led a combined invasion force of Marines and soldiers that totaled over 136,000. This was the greatest number of troops, up to that time, to operate in the field under Marine command. h. The BATTLE OF IWO JIMA: On 19 February 1945, Marines landed on Iwo Jima in what was the largest all-Marine battle in history. It was also the bloodiest in Marine Corps history. The Marine Corps suffered over 23,300 casualties. The capture of Iwo Jima greatly increased the air support and bombing operations against the Japanese home islands. Of the savage battle, Admiral Chester W. Nimitz said, "Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." i. The BATTLE OF OKINAWA: In April of 1945, Marines and soldiers landed and secured the island of Okinawa. This marked the last large action of World War II. Due to the death of the Army commander, Major General Roy S. Geiger assumed command of the 10th Army and became the only Marine officer ever to have commanded a field Army. j. The BATTLE OF THE CHOSIN RESERVOIR: After pushing far into North Korea during November of 1950, Marines were cut off after the Chinese Communist Forces entered the war. Despite facing a 10-division force sent to annihilate them, Marines smashed seven enemy divisions in their march from the Chosin Reservoir. The major significance of this retrograde movement was that Marines brought out all operable equipment, properly evacuated their wounded and dead, and maintained tactical integrity. k. The SECOND BATTLE OF KHE SANH: In January of 1968, Marines defended the firebase at Khe Sanh from an attack force of two North Vietnamese Army (NVA) divisions. Despite heavy bombardment, the Marines held out for over two and a half months before finally forcing the enemy forces to withdraw. l. The BATTLE OF HUE CITY: During the Vietnamese holiday of Tet in January of 1968, Communist forces launched a surprise offensive by infiltrating large numbers of their troops into the major population centers of Hue City, South Vietnam. A near division-size unit of NVA troops occupied the city of Hue and the Citadel. Marines fought in built-up areas for the first time since the Korean War foregoing the application of heavy arms to minimize civilian casualties. Fighting was house-to-house with progress measured in yards. The city was secured on 25 February 1968. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #45 March 27, 2003 http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/streams/video/2003/3/23/1_146027_1_12.asf ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoobieCootie 0 #46 March 27, 2003 Quotesomething tells me their server isnt long for this world Believe it or not, the site's been hacked by some "Patriot, Freedom Cyber Force Militia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoobieCootie 0 #47 March 27, 2003 Speaking of Gurkhas, I want me one of these Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ojf1982 0 #48 March 27, 2003 Where is the video on skydivingmovies.com? I am looking at the uploads folder and I do not see it there.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goindown 0 #49 March 27, 2003 When you made this statement - - - - (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters) Were you implying that you have a small dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaz 0 #50 March 27, 2003 doh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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miked10270 0 #30 March 24, 2003 Quote Quote 'Are you insinuating that the Royal Marines are better in some way than the US Marines? ' No I'm not insinuating it, its a simple fact. Quote Can you please share with us some of your facts/reasons that make this a "Simple Fact"? Or how bout we just drop this line of questioning/childish banter and focus at the more important things ? Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. Kevin Well said Kevin - Right now we're fighting a war together and each unit will play to it's own strengths. That said (and since Zinger asked so nicely): In the late '70's & early 80's the French Foreigh Legion had a training camp in French Guyana, or Surinam (somewhere hot & shitty anyway). One of the features of this camp was the "Mud Course", basically a 10 mile assault course set in a muddy swamp. It's difficulty was legendary (remember this was for the French FOREIGN Legion - although I suppose it could be used by the rest of the French Army to slow down their retreats). Anyway, both the Royal Marines and the US Marines have sent teams to complete this course (which is run against the clock - which is measured in days, hours & minutes!!!). Both the Royal Marines and the US Marines hold records for the time taken to complete the course... The Royal Marines held (& I think still hold) the record for fastest completion of the course, & the US Marines hold "another" record. Then again, the characteristics of these 2 "Marine" units is completely different. The US Marines is comparatively heavy on equipment and logistical support while the Royal Marines tend more toward being "light" infantry & (for want of a better term) skirmishers. In short, while the US Marines would be expected to smash 90% of something fast as hell, the Royal Marines would be better at dealing with the remaining 10%, like dealing with pockets of resistance after the initial defensive position has been smashed. Like I said, it's playing to your strengths. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #31 March 24, 2003 >I think now the 'anti-war protesters' are feeling proud to be 'Americans' > huh? I am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #32 March 24, 2003 'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' BWAAA.......[sly When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #33 March 24, 2003 QuoteI am. Pro-war people should realize that US servicemen die, are captured, are injured etc during war; support war and you have to accept all the horror that goes with it. This war may be neccessary, but there will be a price to be paid - and part of that price will be the lives of our servicemen. That's one of the many reasons that I consider war to be an absolute last resort. I support our servicemen by pushing for policies that prevent war and the inevitable human cost associated with it. I'm not Pro-War, don't get me wrong, but sometimes war is necessary, is unfortunate and inevitable the loss of human life, what I don't like, is these people, not like you, 'protesting' because the US is being the Bad Wolf when on the other side of the fence, atrocities are rampant. That's all I have to say about that.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #34 March 24, 2003 When the Marines or the Para's where on tour in NI the IRA went south. Ass was kicked and they knew it, besides UK forces are well trained in urban combat. NI, Bosnia, Manchester, Suez, Palestine. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #35 March 24, 2003 Quote'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. ' Okay! <> Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #36 March 24, 2003 Quote>What the real problem is that there shouldn't be a newscast to > download at all. These interviews should not be seeing the light of > "media" at all. The Iraqi media should not even be there. Well, I agree - but the Geneva convention protections have been sorta diluted lately because this is a "new kind of war." No, it's not. No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. QuoteUS Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has insisted that al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects being held at the Guantanamo base in Cuba will not be given prisoner of war status. These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for PoW exchange. QuoteI know, this is completely different (i.e. we haven't shot anyone in the head in Guantanamo Bay) but it does indicate that we don't consider the Geneva Convention rules as ironclad as we used to. No, it doesn't. QuoteNot that the Iraqis would pay any attention if we did; They should, as the President noted on Sunday, those that are found to have participated in violations of the Geneva Convention will be treated as war criminals. Quotethey are defending their home, and people defending their home are more prone to desperate measures and less prone to the formalities of international warfare. If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? They did this in 1991 too, when they were defending their frontier in Kuwait, not necessarily their home. Quote> The media should not be the mechanism for finding out who's who, >and where. While I agree here too, I think we would rather find out via an 'unapproved' channel than not find out at all. So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. Al Jazeera and the rest of the media made a choice by giving Iraqi TV an audience outside Baghdad. I think they made a wrong decision.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #37 March 24, 2003 >>'Guys put your dicks away and the rulers you're using to measure them. '' >Okay! > I'm sure glad I wasn't part of this particular discussion Wendy W. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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JJohnson 0 #40 March 27, 2003 Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #41 March 27, 2003 >No where have you heard that we're exempting ourselves from the >Geneva Convention with regards to this conflict with Iraqi nationals. I didn't say that, I said we had diluted Geneva conventions because this is a "new kind of war." That's a direct quote from Rumsfeld, who used it to justify denying POW rights to combatant enemies captured in Afghanistan. If you don't understand what he meant you'd have to ask him. I'm not sure I understand either. >These prisoners are not part of a "state" that would be their host for > PoW exchange. The Taliban was the governing body of Afghanistan. Taliban fighters are being held in contradiction to Geneva protocols. Unless you maintain that, if we completely destroy a government, Geneva protocols no longer apply, and you can do whatever you choose with POW's? >If the Iraqis cannot excuse their behavior, why are you? I am not excusing them; indeed, I am sure we will kill them all, and no one who so much as points a weapon at US troops should have any expectation of survival. I am giving you a reason why they are fighting more fiercely. I have a feeling you would fight more fiercely as well if you were fighting to defend your home from an invading army. >So, you agree but you disagree? Speak for yourself, please. I am. This is one of those shades of gray things that many avoid thinking about because it's unpleasant. Best case - the Iraqi military notifies our military through proper channels that americans have died. Worst case - they die and their families never know what happened to them. Middle case - Al Jazeera shows disturbing video that allows the US military to identify the dead. Should they have avoided showing the video? Yes. Am I glad their families at least know their fate, so they can grieve and begin to deal with their loss? Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJohnson 0 #42 March 27, 2003 It's a Marine thing...you wouldn't understand.....So what if it's a childish dick thing.....It's still a Marine thing you wouldn't understand.JJ "Call me Darth Balls" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #43 March 27, 2003 Quote Oh sure just like the Brits to go in and clean things up after the U.S. has softened them up.....But damn those SAS boys are good. It helps to think of them as human "smart weapons". The US forces wade in and do the wholesale smashing, then stand aside and let the specialists (Royal Marine Commando, SAS) do the knifework. If I was a Fedayeen, still alive up until now, I'd seriously consider getting lost, especially if I knew Gurkhas were coming ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #44 March 27, 2003 I have/had friends who were/are Royal Marines. I have a lot of respect for them. I surely don't think that two teams of guys running an obstical course is a very good judge or indicator of who's the best. I would like to just throw a little history out there. I am proud of it. Besides, you might just learn something. (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters)a. The BATTLE OF BLADENSBURG: In August of 1814, 103 Marines and 400 sailors made a vain attempt to block a force of 4,000 disciplined British troops from advancing on Washington. The Marines stopped three headlong charges before finally being outflanked and driven back. The British then moved down Bladensburg Road to Washington where they burned a number of public buildings before retiring to their vessels in the Chesapeake Bay. b. The BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS: In January of 1815, Marines under the command of General Andrew Jackson soundly defeated British Forces that were attacking the city of New Orleans. The British lost approximately 2,000 men while American losses were less than 100. c. The BATTLE OF BELLEAU WOOD: Marines fought one of their greatest battles in history at Belleau Wood, France, during World War I. Marines helped to crush a German offensive at Belleau Wood that threatened Paris. In honor of the Marines who fought there, the French renamed the area "the Wood of the Brigade of Marines." German intelligence evaluated the Marines as "storm troops" -- the highest rating on the enemy fighting scale. In reference to the Marine's ferocious fighting ability, German troops called their new enemy "Teufelhunden" or "Devildogs," a nickname in which Marines share pride. d. The BATTLE OF WAKE ISLAND: In 1941, following the air attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese struck Wake Island on 8 December. Despite being heavily outnumbered, the Marines mounted a courageous defense before finally falling on 23 December. This small force of Marines caused an extraordinary number of Japanese casualties and damage to the invading force. e. The BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL: On 7 August 1942, the 1st Marine Division landed on the beaches of Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands and launched the first United States land offensive of World War II. This battle marked the first combat test of the new amphibious doctrine, and also provided a crucial turning point of the war in the Pacific by providing a base to launch further invasions of Japanese-held islands. Amphibious landings followed on the remaining Solomon Islands including New Georgia, Choiseul (Feint), and Bougainville. f. The BATTLE OF TARAWA: The Gilbert Islands were the first in the line of advance for the offensive in the Central Pacific. The prime objective was the Tarawa Atoll and Betio Island which had been fortified to the point that the Japanese commander proclaimed that it would take a millon Americans 100 years to conquer it. On 20 November 1943, Marines landed and secured the island within 76 hours, but paid a heavy price in doing so. Because of an extended reef, landing craft could not cross it, and Marines were offloaded hundreds of yards from the beaches. This led to heavy losses from enemy fire. Additionally, many Marines drowned while attempting to wade ashore. g. The BATTLE OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS: Due to the need for airfields by the Air Force and advanced bases for the Navy, the Marianas were invaded. This was accomplished by landings on the islands of Saipan, Guam, and Tinian. During June and July of 1943, Lieutenant General Holland M. Smith led a combined invasion force of Marines and soldiers that totaled over 136,000. This was the greatest number of troops, up to that time, to operate in the field under Marine command. h. The BATTLE OF IWO JIMA: On 19 February 1945, Marines landed on Iwo Jima in what was the largest all-Marine battle in history. It was also the bloodiest in Marine Corps history. The Marine Corps suffered over 23,300 casualties. The capture of Iwo Jima greatly increased the air support and bombing operations against the Japanese home islands. Of the savage battle, Admiral Chester W. Nimitz said, "Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." i. The BATTLE OF OKINAWA: In April of 1945, Marines and soldiers landed and secured the island of Okinawa. This marked the last large action of World War II. Due to the death of the Army commander, Major General Roy S. Geiger assumed command of the 10th Army and became the only Marine officer ever to have commanded a field Army. j. The BATTLE OF THE CHOSIN RESERVOIR: After pushing far into North Korea during November of 1950, Marines were cut off after the Chinese Communist Forces entered the war. Despite facing a 10-division force sent to annihilate them, Marines smashed seven enemy divisions in their march from the Chosin Reservoir. The major significance of this retrograde movement was that Marines brought out all operable equipment, properly evacuated their wounded and dead, and maintained tactical integrity. k. The SECOND BATTLE OF KHE SANH: In January of 1968, Marines defended the firebase at Khe Sanh from an attack force of two North Vietnamese Army (NVA) divisions. Despite heavy bombardment, the Marines held out for over two and a half months before finally forcing the enemy forces to withdraw. l. The BATTLE OF HUE CITY: During the Vietnamese holiday of Tet in January of 1968, Communist forces launched a surprise offensive by infiltrating large numbers of their troops into the major population centers of Hue City, South Vietnam. A near division-size unit of NVA troops occupied the city of Hue and the Citadel. Marines fought in built-up areas for the first time since the Korean War foregoing the application of heavy arms to minimize civilian casualties. Fighting was house-to-house with progress measured in yards. The city was secured on 25 February 1968. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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BoobieCootie 0 #46 March 27, 2003 Quotesomething tells me their server isnt long for this world Believe it or not, the site's been hacked by some "Patriot, Freedom Cyber Force Militia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoobieCootie 0 #47 March 27, 2003 Speaking of Gurkhas, I want me one of these Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojf1982 0 #48 March 27, 2003 Where is the video on skydivingmovies.com? I am looking at the uploads folder and I do not see it there.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goindown 0 #49 March 27, 2003 When you made this statement - - - - (btw, it's not the size of your dick, it's the frequency and intensity of how you can make her cum that really matters) Were you implying that you have a small dick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
