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So its ok for you to ramble.....

Others to post baby pics...

But not me to point out something I find funny?

Interesting.....



This is the talkback forum, all are welcome to ramble here as long as they respect HH's rules.

Ron, you weren't being funny, you were just being mean. That's a big difference.

Who gives a rats ass how many posts somebody has as long as they aren't providing false information in the other forums.

Then again, what do I know, I'm just a lousy 300-jump instructor with 1500 posts.

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Please dont post again, i dont want this topic locked.



how is it going to get locked? I have not said a single evil thing.

All I did was point out a large jump/post difference.

Now, a bunch of people with large gaps are getting upset....Now thats not my fault.

As for posting...well if people can post baby pics, Who did what to whom, he slept with who...I can post the things I find funny...

In this case its large post to jump numbers....

You don't like it...let the thread die. I only answer when people say things to me.....

Funny it is only those with no jumps and a lot of posts that are getting mad......

So I am a wanker, because I don't agree with you....Thats the first mean thing that has been said...You will get this locked, not me.

So everyone can express what they think....except me when it hurts your feelings?

Ron
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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You'd have to work a lot harder than that to hurt my feelings.

You made a rude, nasty post to someone who was expressing his joy at being able to make a few skydives.

If you don't see anything wrong with that, OK. I guess it takes all kinds.
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Funny it is only those with no jumps and a lot of posts that are getting mad......



No offense, but you are being a pain in the ass over nothing. Zeemax posted to be proud of what he did, not to get slammed for no reason. I have more jumps than posts. Let him have his moment in the spotlight. I dont understand what the big issue is. Wether its at the bonfire or on DZ.com, for the most part, if someone is talking out of their ass...it comes across and people can figure out that they are full of shit. He certainly isnt giving bad information on safety or gear...so who does it hurt???

Congratulations Zeemax...be safe and have fun!!!

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Like I said...I am only answering what people say...

So I am a pain in the ass....Just like all those who post just to write

BOOBIES!!!!

Now that was well thought out, and informative..

Truth be known, I am glad that Zeemax jumped...I am glad that the girl with 3 tandems and 400 posts is here...I am glad that she is going to do AFF....I am glad for every Tandem I do...Because it lets one person know what we do...some of them might actually buy in and become jumpers.

Never did I say anything evil...I just was surprized when I saw he just did AFF..I have seen him here so much I assumed that he had been jumping a while.

So I point that out....And all hell breaks loose.

Well I am not sorry I pointed that out. And I ask you to find ONE comment I made that was evil.

Nope, But a lot of people TOOK it as an insult...I never gave one. And the fact that a bunch of post crazy people got upset...That is even funnier to me.

don't like it...well stop responding to it, and it will die...

If I have done anything wrong, I am sure a "greenie" would have yelled at me.

So, why is it ok for everyone but me...to say what I think?

Ron
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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You certainly never said anything evil. But I think we should encourage newer or non-jumpers, for that matter, to get more into the sport, rather than call them "funny" and make them feel awkward about taking the chance to get into skydiving. Skydiving has enough trouble keeping active jumpers and getting new people into the sport...it doesnt need its more "experienced" participants, especially instructors, to scare off more people.

Thats all I am saying. No big deal.

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If I have done anything wrong, I am sure a "greenie" would have yelled at me.



You're right, you didn't do anything wrong. But, the issue being argued that you showed poor taste to point out Zeemax's post numbers vs. actual jumps in his own thread about the great time he had in FL, is a valid point in my opinion. There's nothing for me to yell at you about, but that doesn't mean I'm not shaking my head at your posts.

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And I ask you to find ONE comment I made that was evil.
Nope, But a lot of people TOOK it as an insult...I never gave one.



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Lets see, I have ~ 10,000 posts, but I only have ~400 skydives. I guess I'm a loser.

About 1/3 of all my posts are from the DZ, anyways, during the week. I'm there, lately on wind/weather holds posting away on our squared away DSL connection and watching the DiscNetwork TV. Beats sitting around the house, bitching about the weather. Atleast there I can get work done.

Ok, Ron, how long have you been in the sport? How many jumps did you get that first year or those first couple of years? If you had access to something like dropzone.com back then, don't you think you would have been posting away, hanging out at the virtual DZ?

Now, imagine a college student, who is at computers for probably 80% of his day, studying, doing homework, goofing off, what do you think he's going to do on his study breaks, etc?

Basically, the way I see what you posted is that you must have some sort of insecurity issues and you have to try to hold some sort of stupid difference over someone's head. Its like we've all magically gone back to the 2nd grade. Pretty sad, actually.
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Basically, the way I see what you posted is that you must have some sort of insecurity issues and you have to try to hold some sort of stupid difference over someone's head.


No, I don't think it's that. I just don't think he understands that most people here have to sit at a desk for 8 hours a day. It would be great to get as much experience as necessary for people to take me seriously, but I can't afford the time to do so.
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Well its not that I have "insecurity issues" trust me if you knew me...you would not say thatB|

And its not that I think bad of people that post here all day.....

What I have an issue with is three fold.

1. People who post...and have no idea what they are talking about.....It's not an issue here, I have never seen Zeemax post as an expert. But lots of people have with 100 jumps given opinions as experts. A lot of them DO think that having a bunch of posts makes you valuable, and your comments credable. It does not....Raw jump #'s don't either, but it is a better indication than post #'s

2. Some of the mindless posting that does happen here...My personal fav is "BOOBIES"...then the 5 posts that talk about the boobies.

3. The hijacking of threads....Which I have to say I just did quite well. All I said was something that people that DO have security issues take seriously....But is FACT.

Think about it the next time you feel the need to post noise (BOOBIES!), or hijack a thread.

I know that it is so much easier to post than to jump....Hell I have made 12 jumps in a day, but I think I might have made 12 posts today, and I am not nearly as tired, and I made money while I did it.

Again, anyone that knows me.....Knows I go out of my way to help new people.

But maybe you all will think about this the next time you feel like a mindless post....or hijacking a thread.

I doubt it...I really doubt it.

But I have had fun today....

Ron

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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But I have had fun today....


Well, that's the important part, then! :D

I dunno...I sit at work, and I have to answer to multiple people in a professional tone and stare at numbers trying to figure out how to adjust them so we get an answer we like. Sometimes, it's fun to come to dz.com to be silly, since I'm not allowed to do it here! :)
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How about my other posts?????

Ya know the 400 others?

Lets just say today I did ALL my BS posts in one day (And in one thread) That most people do every day. AND I did it with out name calling, yelling, cussing....AND I only used facts!

There has to be a record there somewhere????

Ron
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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There has to be a record there somewhere????



Nope, that's how DZ.com used to be. You "old guys" remember what it was like 3 years ago? (well, that IS old for Internet stuff). It was a smaller community, but it was also a much nicer community. Sort of like a DZ, when it starts getting big, it gets weird, small DZs usually have a kick ass vibe to them and really cool people.
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OK, but this is the "new kinder" DZ.Com

What I really wanted was to:

A: Piss people off by saying only facts, and not calling anyone names.

B: Hijack the shit out of a thread....I have seen it done so many times....It pisses me off, I thought I would do it to someone that I have seen do it.

C: Get my BS posts in that I have missed for the last few years.

D: Maybe get people pissed off and then maybe get them to think before the do it to someone else...I doubt this will happen, but hey I had nothing to do today.

E: Is this shit ever gonna end?

F: I did want to hijack the thread, AND get it a HOT TOPIC....Oh well I can't have everything can I?

Well 5 out of 6...not bad. I will not be here to night, so maybe I will get that last one......

Just in case, here are a few standard responses (If someone could cut and past these for me I would be very thankful)

1. I never said that...read what I wrote.
2. I never called anyone an evil name.
3. I am only saying the truth, If you take it as an insult...thats not my fault.
4. You don't like what I wrote...don't read it.
5. I am only responding to people that respond to me.
6. BOOBIES!!!!! I could not resist.
7. These are all facts....
8. It's amazing that only those with high post to jump ratios are pissed.

Well I had fun today.....Thanks! I would love to stay, but I have to drive my rental (My Mustang is in the shop....Don't buy Ford, its a long story, but the thing is a 01 GT with 40,000 miles on it...At 18,000 the 3rd gear went out...At 39,000 the power steering rack is shot. Maybe thats why I was all confrontational today...anybody here with one class in mental heath, and 200000 posts on www.mentalheath.com board that wants to give me expert advice??????) to the gym then back to my trailer on the DZ and let my dog out.

C-ya,
Ron
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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What I really wanted was to:

A: Piss people off by saying only facts, and not calling anyone names.

B: Hijack the shit out of a thread....I have seen it done so many times....It pisses me off, I thought I would do it to someone that I have seen do it.

C: Get my BS posts in that I have missed for the last few years.

D: Maybe get people pissed off and then maybe get them to think before the do it to someone else...I doubt this will happen, but hey I had nothing to do today.

E: Is this shit ever gonna end?

F: I did want to hijack the thread, AND get it a HOT TOPIC....Oh well I can't have everything can I?



you forgot G: get a life

I make a post about how happy i am about starting out in skydiving and you make a dig. who cares if i have more posts than jumps? i want more jumps, but i'm not as lucky as you. I dont live that close to a decent DZ, i dont have my own gear.

You're such a hyporcite. You moan about post whoring, and thats the only thing i see you doing.
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"Funny it is only those with no jumps and a lot of posts that are getting mad...... "

No... 3800 dives - 250 posts (0,4 per day)

I learn loads from people with fewer dives than me. My freefly coaches are often former AFF students of mine.

Just try to keep learning, OK? Just try.;)

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"Lets see, I have ~ 10,000 posts, but I only have ~400 skydives. I guess I'm a loser."

Dammit Dave, I wish I'd known you had so few jumps when I first met you, there's absolutely no way I would have hung out with you, jumped with you, shared a few beers with you, had some laughs or shared some good times...
Pah, dammit man I thought you were a real skydiver and were therefore qualified to be in my company!
If I'd known you were low time, there's no way I would have taken you seriously at all. In fact its extremely unlikely I would ever have spoken with you, let alone listened to your inexperienced opinion and endless inane questions.
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I assumed that he had been jumping a while.



there's your problem right there, somehow your incorrect assumption lead you to poke fun at someone who was otherwise simply letting his online friends know how he felt about a great day of jumping.

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A lot of them DO think that having a bunch of posts makes you valuable, and your comments credable



can you produce any evidence of this? if not it falls into the same category as the first problem.

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AND I only used facts!



you forgot about the assumptions that lead to your misunderstanding in the first place.

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What I really wanted was to:

A: Piss people off



which on the internet (a relatively new cultural pheonominon you dont seem to participate in very much or would understand exactly how unnessesarily belittling your comments come across as) makes you a troll.

but hey if belittling (which is exactly what you are continuing to do no matter how civil your tone may be) someone else by pointing out a disparity between post & jump numbers because of your misconceptions about anothers reality makes you feel better then hey keep posting away. after all your not being insulting :rollseyes:

all the old school skydivers here please correct me if i'm wrong, but isnt the entire "I'm better than you because my jump numbers / {insert any other activity or time measurement} ratio is better than yours" attitude implied by the direction this thread has taken, how the phrase "skygod" became a derogatory term?
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you forgot G: get a life

UHHH.I have a life..

And as for the rest of twhat you wrote...do what I did...Move to a place with many DZ's.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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all the old school skydivers here please correct me if i'm wrong, but isnt the entire "I'm better than you
because my jump numbers / {insert any other activity or time measurement} ratio is better than yours"
attitude implied by the direction this thread has taken, how the phrase "skygod" became a derogatory
term?



And when did I say I was better than anyone?
Never.....All I did was point to a fact....If you don't like it...Thats YOUR ASSUMPTION OF WHAT I AM, OR SAID.

I never claimed to be better than anyone.

But this is yesterdays thing..Im done now.

Zeemax, glad you had a good time. Keep jumping.

Are the rest of you happy now?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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