Who's Smarter?

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Who's Smarter?
by Cindy Osborne

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming
about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers,
defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone
and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them
names like "stupid" , "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far
as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is
embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country?
Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic"
leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale
University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an
F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in
the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy
industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with
53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became
the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms
on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor
Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the
African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women.
He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican
other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican
gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic
border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began
circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other
President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM
and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966,
both in political science. Two years later, he won an American
Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice
President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members
of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen
our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his
official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney
regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the
House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative
goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the
great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of
our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for
the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell was educated in the New York City
public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY),
where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in
ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant
upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include
a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington
University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and
foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian
awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's
Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State
Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished
Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named
in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and
colleges across the country.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: attended Princeton University on
Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval
aviator ; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI),
1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the
President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of
the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74;
head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President,
Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of
Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge was raised in a working class
family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to
Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The
Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he
served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze
Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law
Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District
Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the
first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and
was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice earned her Bachelor's Degree
in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University
of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in
1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies
at the University of Denver in 1981.

Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating
at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She
earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a
Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of
International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in
Political Science.)

She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has
been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the
University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in
1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for
International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the
Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the
Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe
Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with
Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the
Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on
Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed
audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in
Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican
National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of
German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served
in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of
Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and
a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In
1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign
Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee
on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of
the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab
Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University
of Notre Dame, the
International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco
Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the
Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in
East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President
of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past
board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica
Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National
Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban
Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born
November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's
degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the
University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre
Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International
Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the
American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary
Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in
1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in
Washington, D.C.

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their
experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will
defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that
if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our
leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and
background:

Barbra Streisand:
Completed high school
Career: Singing and acting

Cher:
Dropped out of school in 9th grade.
Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen:
Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton.
Career: Acting

Jessica Lange:
Dropped out college mid-freshman year.
Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin:
Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal
Career: Acting

Julia Roberts:
Completed high school
Career: Acting

Sean Penn:
Completed High school
Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon:
Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.
Career: Acting

Ed Asner:
Completed High school
Career: Acting

George Clooney:
Dropped out of University of Kentucky
Career: Acting

Michael Moore:
Dropped out first year University of Michigan.
Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker:
Completed High School
Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston:
Completed High School
Career: Acting

Mike Farrell:
Completed High school
Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo:
Dropped out of College.
Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman:
Attended Bard College for one year.
Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we
should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed
daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security.
They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the
Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and
terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication
with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations,
our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot
simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we
watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our
leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no
fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would
destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things
Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood
elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or
uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from
the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of
Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He
bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a
single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia
and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from
Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil,
after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists while
going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the
war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in
the White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the
Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE,
FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze
the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote
world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the
evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close
to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM
to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for
these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these
deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that
since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also
determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions
concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the
Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a
"good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he
was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in
going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe
that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to
go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on
behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more
money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime?
Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a
shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous
marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper
tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire
nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country
will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a
certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate
ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to
enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever
to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without
fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that
this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would
destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall
them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists
and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is
not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire
continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and
brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is
known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did
not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba
in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of
immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold
War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President
Ronald Reagan...PEACE through STRENGTH.





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This was read on the radio on WOR in NY. It is so true. There is only one thing I find wrong with it. There are not as many people listening to these celebs as the media would have you believe. The polls clearly show that. It is just that there voice is loud, and media coverage is greater. For the most part, the people in this country are intelligent, and we can think for ourselves. I don't ask my mechanic for medical advice, and like wise I don't look to celebrities for foreign policy advise. I leave both to the experts. The only thing that really bothers me is that these people go on Unchallanged.


I would love to see Colin Powell have a debate with George Clooney, or Rumsfeld vs. Susan Surandon.
I think then it would be fair. Put it on PPV!!! I would definately pay to see these celebs try and back up facts they know nothing about.

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I would love to see Colin Powell have a debate with George Clooney, or Rumsfeld vs. Susan Surandon.
I think then it would be fair. Put it on PPV!!! I would definately pay to see these celebs try and back up facts they know nothing about

Celebrity death match! Or maybe just arm-wrestling. Paintball? That would be cool.

It seems that a lot of fading talents (?) want to get their name on tv. Ed Asner? Susan Surandon? "Let's see... my career is going down the tubes, what should I do to get on tv..."

At least Cher sticks to the time-honored principle of attracting attention by removing clothing. I kinda wish she'd stop that though. Ewwwwww...

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Great post!!!

only one question.....


Alec Baldwin:
Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal
Career: Acting

He can act?????
Roy

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Old news debated to death already:

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Snope's take:

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Some very highly regarded U.S. presidents had little or no formal education (Abraham Lincoln), did not attend college (Harry Truman), or had no previous experience holding elective office (Dwight Eisenhower), and one (Ronald Reagan) even began his career as a film actor. On the other hand, some very well-educated and intelligent men with experience in governmental administration who served as chief executive of the U.S. (Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter) frequently show up on rosters of "worst U.S. presidents."