aufreefly 0 #1 April 7, 2003 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030407/ts_nm/iraq_usa_cache_dc&cid=564&ncid=1473 QuoteReport: U.S. Finds Missiles with Chemical Weapons 56 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo! WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. forces near Baghdad found a weapons cache of around 20 medium-range missiles equipped with potent chemical weapons, the U.S. news station National Public Radio reported on Monday. NPR, which attributed the report to a top official with the 1st Marine Division, said the rockets, BM-21 missiles, were equipped with sarin and mustard gas and were "ready to fire." It quoted the source as saying new U.S. intelligence data showed the chemicals were "not just trace elements." It said the cache was discovered by Marines with the 101st Airborne Division, which was following up behind the Army after it seized Baghdad's international airport. U.S. Central Command headquarters in Qatar had no immediate comment. The United States and Britain launched the war against Iraq (news - web sites) to rid the country of weapons of mass destruction. Iraq denies having such weapons. I guess we could go and drop these of in France Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #2 April 7, 2003 Quote I guess we could go and drop these of in France I guess that if US and UK had showed evidence before the war,the France would have helped..besides..i think US would have massdestruction weapons aswell,what should we do about that? Sometimes ...just sometimes... Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #3 April 7, 2003 Well, that should shut up the critics. Looks like those pro-testors who've been blocking traffic will become even fewer in number now."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #4 April 7, 2003 the difference is that we are not guilty of genocide. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #5 April 7, 2003 Here we go again...We are starting early on a monday morning. I cant wait until the weather gets better for everybody else in the northern parts of the northern hemisphere so we can get back to more jumping and less political trash talking. Less chat and more splat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #6 April 7, 2003 Quote Well, that should shut up the critics. I doubt it. They'll just claim the evidence was planted by military on behalf of the oil-industry backed puppet presidency. Or something like that. For what it is worth, I think the military is doing a good job, but W is kind of a puppet. A drawling bobble-head, if you will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #7 April 7, 2003 Good news that we found them _this_ way, and not after they were fired on US troops. It will be interesting to see if we can determine whether we simply overran their position too quickly for them to be used, or if the Iraqi regime made a conscious decision not to use the missiles at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #8 April 7, 2003 Quote Quote Well, that should shut up the critics. I doubt it. They'll just claim the evidence was planted by military on behalf of the oil-industry backed puppet presidency. Or something like that. For what it is worth, I think the military is doing a good job, but W is kind of a puppet. A drawling bobble-head, if you will. In the Arab world that'll be true, but the "vintage" of such chemicals can also be determined through testing. It'll be proven readily enough that they couldn't have come from us. And of course, we had some SA-20s handy to plant in this location. "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #9 April 7, 2003 Quotei think US would have massdestruction weapons aswell,what should we do about that? Yes, but we dont hide it from the world.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #10 April 7, 2003 QuoteQuotei think US would have massdestruction weapons aswell,what should we do about that? Yes, but we dont hide it from the world. I'm getting fucking sick of that particular argument. CLUE: THE US WASN'T UNDER EIGHTEEN UN RESOLUTIONS TO GET RID OF SUCH WEAPONS."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #11 April 7, 2003 >Yes, but we dont hide it from the world. While I agree, is that the real issue? If North Korea is open and honest about their nuclear weapons program will that be OK with us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #12 April 7, 2003 Quote>Yes, but we dont hide it from the world. While I agree, is that the real issue? If North Korea is open and honest about their nuclear weapons program will that be OK with us? Since North Korea has withdrawn from the NPT, I don't think things are going to improve."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #13 April 7, 2003 QuoteGood news that we found them _this_ way, and not after they were fired on US troops. It will be interesting to see if we can determine whether we simply overran their position too quickly for them to be used, or if the Iraqi regime made a conscious decision not to use the missiles at all. I think psyops played a major role in addition to the speed of the onslaught - which now appears to be without precedent in the history of warfare. Iraqi leaders were put on notice that we'd single them out for "special" attention if they did. It's also possible that the commanders in the field decided that it even if they had received authorization to use chemicals, it just wasn't worth it. Don't forget that the Iraqis used chemicals against those who were unprepared - The Iranians, and then the Kurds. Chemicals are also a major pain in the ass for the side that's using them. Your own troops have to be in chem gear too, in case the wind blows the wrong way, or the rocket blows up on the launcher, etc. Troop effectiveness is severly reduced by the forced wearing of chem gear - it just plain wears you down in a big hurry. Why further reduce the ineffectiveness of your troops or risk killing a bunch of them when you need every one you've got just to hang on? edit for spelling"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 April 7, 2003 Quote Quote I guess we could go and drop these of in France I guess that if US and UK had showed evidence before the war,the France would have helped..besides..i think US would have massdestruction weapons aswell,what should we do about that? Sometimes ...just sometimes... Um...the US and Britain did make the case to the UN several times over before the conflict.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #15 April 7, 2003 QuoteI'm getting fucking sick of that particular argument. ok7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #16 April 7, 2003 hey, do ya think we could wait to post these until they're sure? I know everyone here wants to be the first to post, but hell guys, the simple fact that the first line in the story says "MAY HAVE found" is an important fact. QuoteU.S. biological and chemical weapons experts believe they may have found an Iraqi storage site for chemical weapons, a U.S. officer told Reuters on Monday. How many times have we heard this already? 3, 4? they've all turned out to be false up to this point. I have this strong feeling that once it's a KNOWN fact, everyone in the White House will be thumbing their nose and saying "Told ya so!!"I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 April 7, 2003 Fine, here ya go then: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030407/ts_nm/iraq_usa_cache_dc&cid=564&ncid=1473 QuoteInitial Tests Suggest WMD 'Cocktail' Found in Iraq 11 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo! KERBALA, Iraq (Reuters) - Preliminary tests on substances found at a military training camp in central Iraq (news - web sites) suggest they contain a cocktail of banned chemical weapons, including deadly nerve agents, U.S. officers said on Monday. Maj. Michael Hamlet of the U.S. 101st Airborne Division said the initial tests revealed levels of nerve agents sarin and tabun and the blister agent lewisite, Reuters correspondent Kieran Murray reported from a U.S. military post at Kerbala. Hamlet said a team of experts would carry out further tests as early as Tuesday on the substances, discovered at the camp in Albu Mahawish, on the Euphrates river between the central Iraqi cities of Kerbala and Hilla, site of ancient Babylon. "If tests from our experts confirm this, this could be the smoking gun. It would prove (Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)) has the weapons we have said he has all along," Hamlet said. "But right now we just don't know." The United States invaded Iraq on March 20 to overthrow Saddam and prevent him using banned chemical weapons. Many other members of the United Nations (news - web sites) opposed the attack, saying U.N. inspectors should be given more time to disarm Iraq. ]--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #18 April 7, 2003 QuoteTHE US WASN'T UNDER EIGHTEEN UN RESOLUTIONS TO GET RID OF SUCH WEAPONS. they migth should be.US is det most agressive nation i know. I dont mind if if were DK that had thouse arms,i think they all should be destroyed.I just cant see why any want thouse weapon.You can migth tell me,while evrybody agree that its a nasty weapon. its ironic..like telling my kid that she cant have candy but eat it my self.. I dont like SH,i do apriciate that US moves in the front to get rid of him,but i think it could have been done in a better way. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #19 April 7, 2003 LOL.... another one.... READ The FIRST LINE AGAIN QuoteInitial Tests Suggest WMD 'Cocktail' Found in Iraq from Websters sug·gest ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sg-jst, s-jst) To offer for consideration or action; propose: suggest things for children to do; suggested that we take a walk. To bring or call to mind by logic or association; evoke: a cloud that suggests a mushroom; a ringlike symbol suggesting unity. To make evident indirectly; intimate or imply: a silence that suggested disapproval. To serve as or provide a motive for; prompt or demand: Such a crime suggests apt punishment.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #20 April 7, 2003 The sites have been tested twice, both times coming positive for Sarin and mustard and another blistering agent that starts with a "t"...sorry I can't be more specific. Further, some of our troops have felt the effects, i.e. blistering, stinging, and whatnot, and have had boots testing positive for racin (iirc). No official word will come quickly, though. It's pretty clear that this is what it looks like - and it's been floating around the news in the background for several days. According to some reports I've heard, some of the weapons were found across the street from a "commando camp" (whatever that is), buried and clearly marked as dangerous. That doesn't sound like pesticide to me (which will be a claim if the Iraqi government speaks to this issue...) While I understand and agree with the thought "don't rush to judgment", I think that it will be ably demonstrated that the weapons are there and were ready to go. The question I have is France's claim that they would join the fight should there be any weapons found..... ..... .....will they or won't they? I don't think they will, honestly. And we have "captured the castle". In the center of Baghdad, Saddam's palace has been captured with very little fighting. One most excellent quote I heard was that they are not raising the flag of the US because this isn't a takeover, but rather a liberation act, and therefore our flag would be out of place. As with the stand down at the mosque, this is a clear demonstration of our intent...which is liberation, not acquisition. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #21 April 7, 2003 Suprise, Suprise... LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #22 April 7, 2003 QuoteWhile I understand and agree with the thought "don't rush to judgment" and that is the only point I am trying to make. When it's official, it will be announced. There has been soo much rumor and disinformation floating around, who knows what to beleive, except that in which you want to believe. Just out of curiosity Michele, could you post your sources?I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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jerry81 10 #24 April 7, 2003 "Smoking gun" WMD site in Iraq turns out to contain pesticide Yet another case of media (and public) jumping to conclusions too soon... Really, the whole thing is becoming laughable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #25 April 7, 2003 ...as reported by Agence France-Presse (AFP) mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
