Kennedy 0 #26 April 16, 2003 everyone forgive my idiocy, I misread basically everything up here. I just finished a debate and a paper and yada yada yada I've got drain bamage. peacewitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #27 April 16, 2003 To the long forgotten origins of this thread, King was never a victim. He attacked police officers after being hit twice with volleys of 50,000 volts from dart-stun guns. He ran at a police officer. The officer he ran at made a mistake, in my opinion, by not taking one power stroke to knock King out, and thereby eliminating the need to hit him lightly for the next 19 seconds. Unfortunately, the tape does not show the cause of the ensuing action. It only shows King midway through his charge at a cop and the cop swinging wildly with his baton. King should be in jail. 54 people died and 2,000 were injured because he resisted arrest and some schmuck caught part of it on tape. Fuckers. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #28 April 16, 2003 QuoteKing should be in jail. Agreed. Quote54 people died and 2,000 were injured because he resisted arrest and some schmuck caught part of it on tape. False. The deaths and injuries were caused by other people's disregard for civility and lack of common sense. He didn't make them do it. People lost control and caused the commotion that resulted in fatalities. Had they maintained their composure, the riots wouldn't have happened. King, the police and the rioters are all at fault. I feel bad for the innocent people that got hurt just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #29 April 16, 2003 Wrong! If King wouldn't have resisted, none of it ever would have happened. Thankyaverrymuch, mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #30 April 16, 2003 QuoteWrong! If King wouldn't have resisted, none of it ever would have happened. So you are saying he is personally responsible for the actions of hundreds/thousands of other people? They aren't responsible for their own and have no free will? He made them do it? I agree that his actions acted as a catalyst, but nothing says when one person throws a fit an entire city must follow. It was a widespread lapse in judgement. Note that I'm not saying he was innocent, just that parties other than him were also guilty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #31 April 16, 2003 QuoteIt was a widespread lapse in judgement Funny, I've always said it was because some people are fucking stupid and shouldn't be allowed to breed...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #32 April 16, 2003 I am by no means removing responsibility from the rioters, nor am I releasing the police from hitting him in the wrong places too many times. I am saying without his original actions, none of this would have happened. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #33 April 16, 2003 Quote I am by no means removing responsibility from the rioters, nor am I releasing the police from hitting him in the wrong places too many times. I am saying without his original actions, none of this would have happened. Well..... DUH!! Quote Funny, I've always said it was because some people are fucking stupid and shouldn't be allowed to breed... Yeah. What AggieDave said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #34 April 16, 2003 I hope they sue him for MORE then hes worth! and win. I really wouldnt mind if he rots in prison for this ..... 3 strikes?! if the original post is ture he's in the bottom of the 4th!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdfreefly 1 #35 April 16, 2003 I think I am in love. Any woman who can carry a smile like the one in that avatar, and write like this.....oh my!!!! Just imagine the fights we could have! Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peppermint 0 #36 April 16, 2003 jd, It appears I am free...Kevin wants nothing to do with me! So, what's your sign? The flowing wave returns not, nor does the passing hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdfreefly 1 #37 April 16, 2003 My sign is I95 North... As in hop on I95 North untill you see signs for Philadelphia and head to Skydive Crosskeys for the MonkeyClaw boogie in May!!!Unless you were talking about astrology, in which case I am a Taurus. Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peppermint 0 #38 April 16, 2003 Is that an invitation?? The flowing wave returns not, nor does the passing hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #39 April 16, 2003 QuoteI am saying without his original actions, none of this would have happened. If the gas powered automobile was never invented he wouldn't have been in a high speed chase and it wouldn't have happened either. I think Sublime had a good interpretation of the real reason for the riot.. Cause everybody in the hood has had it up to here It's getting harder, and harder, and harder each and every year Some kids went in a store with their mother I saw her when she came out she was gettin' some Pampers They said it was for the black man They said it was for the mexican But not for the white man But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King It's this fucked-up situation and these fucked-up police It's about comin' up and stayin' on top And screamin' 187 on a mother fuckin' cop It's ain't in the paper, it's on the wall National guard Smoke from all around Give me my share, my share. Gimme my share, I want it. Gimme my share, I need it now, I need it now. My share. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdfreefly 1 #40 April 16, 2003 Of course it is. Methane Freefly - got stink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #41 April 16, 2003 Quote My sign is I95 North... As in hop on I95 North untill you see signs for Philadelphia and head to Skydive Crosskeys for the MonkeyClaw boogie in May!!!Unless you were talking about astrology, in which case I am a Taurus. Or you could just follow the smell of his ass coming from a jump plane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peppermint 0 #42 April 16, 2003 Quote Of course it is. Excellent. I will be there! The flowing wave returns not, nor does the passing hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #43 April 16, 2003 >Always searching for some new way to placate ourselves into thinking > we're not monsters, but fine and good, upstanding members of the > human global society. I think all people have a need to do this - they need to validate their own actions, morals and beliefs. Everyone wants to think they're good, and everyone believes, in some deep down part of themselves, that if everyone was just like them things would be much better. >You take away his identity, and tell him to find it by denying his >instincts rather than working around them. You tell him to grow up, > get married, have children, and become a productive member of hs > society at a vocation he's good at and finds rewards in. But like the > courtly love of the Middle Ages, in practical terms, this does not > happen save on the glossy shell of God Bless Mom and Apple Pie > and Baseball Goodness. I think it happens more often than you think. Some of us (I think most of us, here) are pretty good at taking our drives, even sometimes those drives that are deadly, antisocial or impractical, and _using_ those drives to do something we want to do. We want to go really fast, we learn to fly small canopies, or we race dirtbikes. We want to jump out of airplanes and we learn to do it safely. We want to beat people up and we learn Tae Kwon Do, and spar with people. And rather than deny those drives they are expressed far more effectively than a drunk in a bar who goes around and picks fights. Is our way of expressing our drives always socially acceptable? No, but I think most of us don't care. >Beaver Cleaver and Wally are feeling each other up in the dark of > night. Ward is dominating June in the bedroom, because he feels > empowered there, and if June grits her teeth and bears it (or even, > by virtue of what said society has done to her gender, believes she > deserves it or even likes it... which are infinitely more self >-depricating and damaging to herself, as well as any young females > she may encounter and influnce) . . . There are women who like to be dominated. There are _men_ who like to be dominated. The key is finding someone who meshes with your own drives, someone who is looking for their counterpart to do whatever it is they want to do. And when two people like that find each other, it's far from a deprecating or damaging experience. I've found that skydivers are less likely to shy away from experiences like that than most people, which is a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #44 April 16, 2003 >Unfortunately, the tape does not show the cause of the ensuing > action. It only shows King midway through his charge at a cop and > the cop swinging wildly with his baton. Just as unfortunately, it shows police beating a man who is on the ground. No amount of spin is going to demonstrate how that was a neccessary response. >King should be in jail. 54 people died and 2,000 were injured > because he resisted arrest and some schmuck caught part of it on > tape. That's like saying that 3000 people died in the WTC disaster because of Bush's foreign policy. The terrorists who flew the planes killed those people, just as the rioters caused all that death and destruction. Blame the right people, at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinryan 0 #45 April 16, 2003 I felt you brought up some very interesting things but I am left wondering: what is your point?BASE 853 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #46 April 17, 2003 Wow, what a reply. Are you saying that society is fucked up, that we are being brainwashed to behave in ways that are alien to our basic animal instincts? The ability to reason, and the ability to use that reason to change our instinctive behaviour is what makes us humans different from all the other animals, you could even argue that if we did not use this ability we suppressing our true instincts, this would be against nature. Tribes have not gone away, they have got way bigger, they are called nations, special interest groups, communities, dz.commers, we tend to drift from one to another and most of us belong to more than one, they give us a sense of belonging. We may not hunt for food any more, but we still hunt for other things, money being the foremost. We still act very much like we are told we did when we were still living in trees, (if you believe the historians and anthropolists), it's just that we have different tools to do them with. Why did I bother with this?? Anyway I'm off to find my female and dominate her for the rest of the evening , and in the morning I will go to work and resume bugslaying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #47 April 18, 2003 tell us another story Aunt Natalie. pleeeeease. Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
