WeakMindedFool 0 #101 April 26, 2003 QuoteI would like to remind you what a concentration camp is. It actually all started with the British - Boer war in 1899. A concentration camp is not necessarily a site for mass exterminaton. I am myself not sure what my oppinion on Guantanamo is, aside the fact that I think it is a can of worms waiting to be opened. We, the United State are running a concentration camp though, unless you can tell me under what law and for how long they will be kept there and what in particular are they charged with and when they will stand trial. It definitely ain't Club Med. Actually we invented it, Andersonville, Civil warFaith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #102 April 26, 2003 Hmmm....Of course I didn't mean my reply as a personal attack..... You evidently have strong views on multiple subjects (mostly government related) and I was just trying to gain some insight.... Although to me your reply pretty much looked like, "My dear little friend", BLAH..BLAH..BLAH, something about Shia and Sunni muslims, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.....something about ZHills, Deland and Sebastian, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH..."Shalom" Again, not a personal attack.....Ha...Ha.................... Blue Skies, Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #103 April 26, 2003 I agree.......... Chuck, were there any wind "gust" restrictions on an Army round jump? Like max of 13 knots but not gust over 10kts.? etc.... Buck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #104 April 26, 2003 Of course I did mention that our education system was the best in the world...for those who want to learn. One of the biggest problem plaguing modern America is secondary illiteracy - the fact that most adults have problems with understanding simple written texts. Mind you not reading, but understanding what they read. It all sounds like BLAH BLAH BLAH to them. Of course your response was no personal attack. We will have none of these here, will we now?jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeakMindedFool 0 #105 April 26, 2003 Quote Then stay home and buy the album. The reason I see live bands is because it will be different from their pre-recorded product. Whether that's a difference in the music itself, or their stage production, or them actually *gasp* talking to the crowd. I'd rather here a 15 word quip about someone's politics at a concert than have them say the name of the city they're in (that they only know because it's written on a cue card taped to the stage) so everyone can cheer..."Yeah...they said the name of the place where we live". It's not like they went on some long diatribe...it was one freakin' sentence. Now Eddie Vetter on the other hand, needs to shut the f up Yeah, everyone got real excited about that pearl jam thing. Eddie's been doing that same show for awhile now...people just recently decided it was bad to wear a bush mask.Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeakMindedFool 0 #106 April 26, 2003 Quote OK Jraf. Time to come back to reality dude. I wasn't referring to you cowering behind the FOS mantra - I was referring to the Dixie Twits, Eddie Vedder, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, et al. Not sure how you thought I was referring to you from the context of my post, but I was not doing so. I don't read a lot of your stuff being here only for a short time, but from what I've read I can't accurately say you're a Nazi. A bit deranged, perhaps.Saying 'shut up and sing' isn't indicative of one holding to Marxist/Leninist tenets, nor those of the goose-steppers in the Nazi party. Stating that such a remark is against FOS is an untenable position as well. Furthermore, your remark about a 'fine line' separating the far left & far right has about as much factual basis as Clinton giving and abstinence seminar. They are about as close as we are to Pluto. Same solar system - different orbits. Nazi's and Commies hold beliefs more akin to the left - socialized medicine, state run economy, price controls, etc - than they do with conservatives, who seem to be doing the most Hollywonk booing and bashing. I stand by my previous posting. beers to all, Vinny the Anvil uuummmm, No thats wrong. Nazi's are the ultimate conservative, see quote below. PeaceFaith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeakMindedFool 0 #107 April 26, 2003 QuoteI think the Dixie Chicks are getting everything they deserve. The general public and the people who own the radio stations and record stores are also free to express their opinion. Just like the signs at restaurants which state "we retain the right to refuse service for any reason", those stations are in no way required to play or sell records from artists who they dislike for any reason. Hey, if you really want to listen to them, then go buy a CD at their concert. Once again, just my (very popular, it seems) opinion. If that band is concerned about their record sales or radio play, then they need to figure out what is and is not acceptable in the general public's eye. Piss enough people off and you will find out rather quickly how short-lived your star power can last. I think it's plenty fair. Chuck the best part is their record sales have gone up...cool!!!Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #108 April 26, 2003 oh my gosh, Jraf, you said something that made me LAUGH! Wow! Nice comeback on the education comment... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #109 April 26, 2003 Sinker, I have to say that you look adorable in your avatar with your precious, baby. You are a cutie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #110 April 26, 2003 >>>No need to back slide on that. Natalie was always wide in the rear and lacking in the bra long before being pregnant. I used to be a long time fan of the Dixie Chicks.Terri Clark is more my typep.s. big girls need lovin' too (Politic free/"fat bottom girls make the rokin' world go "round")-Grant Quote Actually, I had no idea she was pregnant at the time. It wasn't until I saw the picture on the cover of the magazine and saw that she was small again that I tought anything of it. I wouldn't have given a second thought as to the "condition" of any member of that band; I am not a fan. Still, I think she is a pig. Just my opinion. _______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #111 April 26, 2003 Quote Terri Clark is more my type that chick rocks..... She's got better things to do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #112 April 26, 2003 So you a turncoat now? Or are you looking at Navy pilots? I heard they are....girlsjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #113 April 26, 2003 >There is an intersting article going around comparing the idiots which > criticizes the war and the administration. It compared their educational >background. Hmm. Noam Chomsky has been a very vocal critic of the war. He has a PhD in linguistics from U Penn, postgraduate work at Harvard, and taught at MIT for decades. He's written dozens of books on foreign policy. Rush Limbaugh, a strong war supporter, is a college dropout. Of course, education often doesn't mean that much. Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak invented the Apple computer; both were college dropouts. Bill Gates - another college dropout. F Scott Fitzgerald? William Faulkner? Both dropouts. And while it means they probably aren't as good at calculus as some others might be, you'd be hard pressed to call any of those people idiots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #114 April 26, 2003 History and present day proves you to be correct. >>>Our greatest inventors and "Men of Science", (ei. Edison) were too busy creating and "doing, rather than sitting years of "University" and yet many today are of extensive credentials and greatness "on paper" yet contribute nothing to society but self promotion. *****Men of Proof vs. "of paper"***** It's easy to see where the respect belongs._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #115 April 26, 2003 QuoteQuoteReally? Can you site one example of any action taken by the administration to uphold the right of US citizens to speak out against the war? I don't remember seeing them going out of their way to make sure protestors weren't hassled. Kev, I don't understand. No "action" by the administration is needed to protect protestors from being hassled. The right to speak out is in place already, and the only protestors I've seen have trouble are the ones breaking laws. I've heard of no federal effort to stifle lawful anti-war protest, have you? OTOH, you can easily search through the speeches of Bush's cabinet and find plenty of precise intent to create and defend free speech here and abroad. This is the stuff to which I refer. Why, just a few days ago Bush made remarks to reporters about how great it was that the Shiites were now able to speak out in protest, even though the protest was against himself, the US, and the war. Where exactly in the Constitution or Bill of Rights does it say that the right of free assembly is accompanied by the need to get a permit from the government?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
