Judge Sees Link Between Iraq & 9/11

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federal judge has ordered Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and others to pay September 11th victims, saying there is evidence, though meager, that Iraq had a hand in the terrorist attacks. Oh, really?



Yes, my friends, U.S. district judge Harold Baer ordered that the damages be paid by bin Laden, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Saddam, and the former Iraqi government. The judge ruled against them by default after they failed to respond to the lawsuits brought on behalf of two of the Trade Center dead. James E. Beasley, a Philadelphia lawyer, who brought the case, hopes to collect the money from frozen Iraqi, bin Laden, and al-Qaeda assets.

Now, the significance here is this. This judge, Harold Baer, is a notoriously left-wing judge – and even he couldn't ignore the links between Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and 9-11.

We also have two other stories in the stack of stuff – one on the so-called looting at the Iraqi museum, where so much of that so-called Iraqi culture was lost forever. Well, it looks like we've found most of it now, and the stolen stuff was not stolen by looters. Our people have recovered nearly 700 artifacts and found about 39,400 manuscripts from the National Museum in Baghdad. Employees of the museum stole the stuff. It was an inside job – and not the result of American troops neglecting to "protect" Iraqi culture.

And, the Defense Department says that initial examination of a tractor-trailer truck turned over to U.S. forces in Iraq indicates it might have been a mobile chemical or biological weapons laboratory. This is interesting, because, as you recall, Hans Blix said that his inspectors could find no evidence of mobile weapons labs.

So, more WMD evidence, to go with evidence proven in a liberal court of law, that Saddam and al-Qaeda are linked – and to top it off, even the Iraqi culture lost in the museum has now been recovered. It's all bad news for Democrats, folks. It's all bad news.






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federal judge has ordered Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and others to pay September 11th victims, saying there is evidence, though meager, that Iraq had a hand in the terrorist attacks. Oh, really?



Yes, my friends, U.S. district judge Harold Baer ordered that the damages be paid by bin Laden, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Saddam, and the former Iraqi government. The judge ruled against them by default after they failed to respond to the lawsuits brought on behalf of two of the Trade Center dead. James E. Beasley, a Philadelphia lawyer, who brought the case, hopes to collect the money from frozen Iraqi, bin Laden, and al-Qaeda assets.

Now, the significance here is this. This judge, Harold Baer, is a notoriously left-wing judge – and even he couldn't ignore the links between Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and 9-11

I wouldn't give too much weight to this judgement, Bill. It is pretty much a default judgement because the Defendants weren't able to show up and defend themselves. I also seriously doubt they will ever collect any money from Osama, The Taliban, Iraq, or saddam Hussein.

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[Michele 1]

Hi, GravityM...and BP...

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Defendants weren't able to show up and defend themselves

They could've, but chose to not. There could've been representatives for them - lawyers hired on their behalf...but there wasn't any present.

I am no legal eagle - not even a legal sparrow, but if one of the lawyers here could chime in about default judgments, it would be appreciated. It is my understanding that, even if the defendant doesn't show, the prosecution/plaintiff still needs to present a case, and show their side. It's not like "well, they didn't show up. Plaintiff, you want how much? Oh, o.k....here ya go..." But I could be very wrong.

It's interesting from both a philosophical view as well as a legal view. What I also find interesting is the amount of the award....aren't some of those "frivolous" lawsuits against, say, Mickie D's larger than that awarded to the plaintiffs?

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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well, as for collecting the dough from Saddam, doubtful, since they withdrew about a billion dollars on the way outta town

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well, as for collecting the dough from Saddam, doubtful, since they withdrew about a billion dollars on the way outta town

I believe we have a lot of Bin and friends money frozen stateside.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

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where so much of that so-called Iraqi culture was lost forever

A comment like that on the artifacts of one of the oldest civillizations is just pitiful, especially coming from a member of one of the world's youngest nations.

Also, here's another report on WMDs;

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U.S. Finds Tupperware Used to Store Anthrax, or Possibly Cereal

BAGHDAD, Iraq (DPI) - U.S. military officials have discovered several Tupperware containers in one of Saddam Hussein's palaces, which an Army spokesman said "are just the sort of containers which could have stored anthrax or breakfast cereal." "The containers had a bottom, four sides, as well as, and this is very important, lids," said Gen. Tommy Franks. "Just the sort of self-contained storage units in which Saddam could have placed any sort of chemical or biological weapon or dry goods." Officials also found several cars which could have been used to transport the containers, and hoses which could have been used to wash the cars.

Only difference being this is intentional satire.

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So, more WMD evidence, to go with evidence proven in a liberal court of law, that Saddam and al-Qaeda are linked – and to top it off, even the Iraqi culture lost in the museum has now been recovered. It's all bad news for Democrats, folks. It's all bad news.

"PROVEN"? I think you don't understand the English language if you think a default judgement means that anything is "proven".





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[Michele 1]

Continuing on with my thoughts on what a default judgment is and is not....

Default Judgment info

In pertinent part (although I am again stressing I am not a lawyer, and could easily misunderstand what this is saying...


...The court shall also require proof under oath, made upon personal knowledge or based on business records, of the truth of every essential element of the claim for relief . The clerk may enter a default judgment if the damages alleged are liquidated and no default hearing is required. If the defendant answers but fails to appear at trial, the court may nevertheless consider any relevant and material evidence filed with the answer....
(nderline added by me...)

Any lawyers out there want to help me understand this?

And the original pleading is somewhere on the net...I'll see if I can find it.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~