jtval 0 #26 May 15, 2003 flew wheller ! YES that was him! edit: FLEX wheelerMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #27 May 15, 2003 How is it that 3 or 4 people posting back and forth can set this studid thread on fire?Oh-well, could be worst I guess... --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #28 May 15, 2003 That is what is happend when I don't read carefuly threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #29 May 15, 2003 QuoteQuotehttp://www.flexonline.com/flex/breaking_news/12_12_02/levrone_race.html Read this. hit the wrong button dave? http://www.flexonline.com/flex/breaking_news/12_12_02/levrone_race.htmlMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #30 May 15, 2003 Quote How is it that 3 or 4 people posting back and forth can set this studid thread on fire?Oh-well, could be worst I guess... well it could be worse....or better...we could be tlaking about BOOBIES!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizzieb 0 #31 May 15, 2003 OMG!!! i think one of his arms is bigger than my whole body! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #32 May 15, 2003 Hahahahahahaha... No, I don't use those buttons, I ususally type the little tags out, since it takes much longer to reach over to the mouse then it does for me to type the tags...I guess I was just going a little too fast and typed the wrong thing with out thinking... That's funny. Oh, the pains and perrils of being a post whore...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #33 May 15, 2003 no buttons use? damn I use them most of the time but If Im feelin fiesty Ill type all the stuff out! the buttons do take longer though!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #34 May 15, 2003 See it's easy to be a post-whore when you can type on average over 70 words a minute...so those damned buttons take waaaay too long. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #35 May 15, 2003 its funny I can typ eso fast on dz.com but when Im at work Im slow as hell! ( i guess b/c I dont have to be accurate here)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #36 May 15, 2003 QuoteAnd Arnold was much much larger then Steve Reeves... The sport is evolving, nutrition is much better and non-steroid supplementing is MUCH better then it was even 10 years ago. He might have or he might not have, without actually seeing the guy in person, its hard to really tell (even then its still mostly a guessing game). When Arnold was on top all the pros were on steroids. I saw Arnold once in person in Hawaii walking down the street with a tall Brunette (about 25 years ago). He didn't look at all out of place. Just a big muscular guy, not at all like his huge pictures in magazines. You have to admire the guy. Most professional body builders are kind of freaks of nature though. They have ideal genetics for body building. Most all have wide shoulders, narrow waist, ideal skeletal structure and a high number of muscle cells. One guy used to win contests without even working out. This wouldn't happen today though because it is so competitive. Some people spend a lifetime trying to build their physique to this level and never get big enough even to compete. Genetics means everything in this game. Larry Scott was able to compensate for narrow shoulders by building huge deltoids. Not everyone can build their deltoids to that size though. You do have to admire a bodybuilders discipline and determination though. Most spend years of hard training while following an extremely strict diet, particularly when approaching contest time. There's no doubt that steroids do work, also. .......Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beemertec 0 #37 May 15, 2003 One of the guys I work with is a huge bodybuilding fan and amatuer body builder. He said this guy used something called synthol ( might be spelled wrong). It is soem type of oil that you inject and it stays in that area. He said if you ever see the guy close up you can really tell because of the way his muscles are shaped and the are very uneven. It's what I heard anyway. Blue Skies Steve Ok, so it's pink, but I'm secure in my manhood, and I still look cool coming in under it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #38 May 15, 2003 One characteristic that you can sometimes tell if a bodybuilder is taking heavy doses of steroids is what competitors term "bitch tits". The nipple area actually starts to enlarge to take on female characteristics. I've often wondered about some professional women bodybuilders (who take steroids). Some have a deep gruff voice and even have to shave. I hope I'm not giving the impression that all bodybuilders are heavy steroid users. Many are clean and you have to admire what they have achieved being drug free. Some do take steroids though to not only to increase muscle size, but to keep their muscle mass while following an extreme diet to cut their fat level. I used to read a lot about this, but haven't bought a muscle magazine in years......Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blondeflyer7 0 #39 May 15, 2003 Quote ya thats just fucking stupid. How could any woman find that freak atractive?! Actually I agree with you on this one....don't get me wrong I like big muscular men but he was a bit too much for my taste Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aero04 0 #40 May 15, 2003 I got a chuckle out of how just fucking huge his upper arm is, but then his forearm looks normal. Don't know maybe just me, but I found that funny looking. Edited because I graduate in a year with an engineering degree and I can't spell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #41 May 16, 2003 Been there, done that, had the back zits that go along with cottonseed oil-based injections. Fuck ALL that and the rage that goes along with it. Just like any other discipline of strength-based athletics, bodybuilding is filled with abusers. Those who claim innocence are the ones smart and or lucky enough to carry piss clean. Worse off of all are the people who, for years, have abused HGH (human growth harmone). That is what gives female bodybuilders the "lantern jaw" look. Separate, but totally related is GHB. I am sure that the majority of people out there do not know that GHB, portrayed in all the media as "the date rape drug" was developed as an artificial substitute for HGH. The body converts GHB into HGH when injested. When used in sane doses, GHB greatly reduses the refractory period following an extremely heavy workout. It was only when people began using excessive doses that they found out that it got them "high." Even higher doses, it was found, knocked a person out, but still left them feeling great and on top of the world when they woke up. Unbelievable that something that started as such a good thing could ruin so many lives. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #42 May 16, 2003 so Nick Nolte wasn't full of shit when he said he used the stuff GHB for working out.... Huh.... I thought he was just a freak. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #43 May 16, 2003 QuoteSee, I'm more of a Jay Cutler fan, he's probably going to beat Ronnie to become Mr. Olympia this year...http://www.jaycutler.com/photos/pages/AC4.htm] Damn, looks like Jay outgrew his skin! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaGQ 0 #44 May 16, 2003 JESUS!!!!! How could you jack off with arms that big let alone hold your pecker without squeezing the life out of it while taking a leak...lol Dry humor isnt it great - GQ ... it was the love of the air and sky and flying, the lure of adventure, the appreciation of beauty ... -Charles Lindberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suz 0 #45 May 16, 2003 **shudders** Nup. Dont like that very much at all. Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #46 May 16, 2003 to qoute bruce lee "sure he's big, but is he powerful?" can he use all the muscle efficiently or is it really mostly for show? i'm MUCH more impressed with the powerlifters, most are tiny guys (& girls) who maximize the potential power in the more "normal" amounts of muscle a human has vs a focus on increasing their size to superfreak proportions.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #47 May 16, 2003 [i'm MUCH more impressed with the powerlifters, most are tiny guys (& girls) who maximize the potential power in the more "normal" amounts of muscle a human has vs a focus on increasing their size to superfreak proportions. ] I don't know about this. It sounds like your saying that one can increase his strength without increasing his size or increase his size without increasing his strength. I have not read much up on this but I do have my own personal experience and what I have seen in gyms to go by. I found that I was able to get my bench max from 230 (what it was before I ever lifted) to 315 without gaining any weight. My natural weight has always been 180. But when I kept working out and got my max to 340 my weight shot up to 200. Strangely/annoyingly enough my weight did not easily come back down when I took a break. But anyway from my experience I don't believe I could every be in the 350 bench range without weighing 200. And to me that would suggest that gaining muscle and gaining strength is mutually inclusive.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #48 May 16, 2003 Quoteto qoute bruce lee "sure he's big, but is he powerful?" can he use all the muscle efficiently or is it really mostly for show? i'm MUCH more impressed with the powerlifters, most are tiny guys (& girls) who maximize the potential power in the more "normal" amounts of muscle a human has vs a focus on increasing their size to superfreak proportions. A lot of power lifters are very massive. Many bodybuilders are former power lifters. Many bodybuilders do heavy basic lifts to build mass. I think a lot of people think that bodybuilders are all show and no strength. Not at all. Ever see the poundages that some of these guys can handle. I remember seeing Lou Ferigno (you know the guy on the incredible Hulk show) enter some fitness contests on TV. One event he beat everyone else on was the bike race. They are more than muscle bound oafs. Arnold's little lifting pardner Franco Columbo was also a power lifter who once had a worlds record in the bench press. He weighed in at about 180 pounds, but could bench over 500 lbs. He later went on to become Mr. Olympia in body building. It's too bad that steroid use has become such an important element in both body building and power lifting circles.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #49 May 16, 2003 they can be but they are not always. pardon the half assed terminology, someone in the field please correct me.. the difference for strength training is you are trying to get the most out of every single fiber. Where as with body building your increasing the number of muscle fibers, without the focus on how efficiently your muscles work. anecdotal accounts claim that Bruce was pound for pound MUCH stronger than the body builders he worked with when he became interested in weight training. having the potential strength and being able to focus it when you need to are two different things.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #50 May 16, 2003 Quote I found that I was able to get my bench max from 230 (what it was before I ever lifted) to 315 without gaining any weight. My natural weight has always been 180. But when I kept working out and got my max to 340 my weight shot up to 200. Strangely/annoyingly enough my weight did not easily come back down when I took a break. But anyway from my experience I don't believe I could every be in the 350 bench range without weighing 200. And to me that would suggest that gaining muscle and gaining strength is mutually inclusive. i think that during your starup phase, where you increased your press, but not your weight, you lost fat and gained muscle in equal amounts. once you leaned out as much as you were going to, you continued to gain muscle, which would account for the weight gain."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
