Richard Wagner

[FliegendeWolf 0]

OK, one of my guilty pleasures - I absolutely love Richard Wagner's operas. I just got finished listening to a compilation of orchestral music from The Ring and can't get enough (sure, the CDs of the complete operas would be better, but that's probably overload). Anyone else here a fan?

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Ride of the Valkyries - YYESSSSSSSSS !!!

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Now, was HE really an asshole, or was it just that Hitler liked him so much and used his music so much that now people THINK he was an asshole?

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[AggieDave 6]

Now you delve into the odd religious views surrounding the two of them...this line of thought gets very odd very quickly...

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Zenister 0]

i try not to get to hung up with the personalities of artists/musicians.. judge the work for its own merits not the merits of its creator..

I love Wagner, but its definitely a mood thing..

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[TheAnvil 0]

Der Meistersinger......Der Ring des Nibelungen....Der Fliegende Hollander....

Mein Gott! Wagner gefallt mir ganz gut. Seit ein Jahre habe ich ein Opera nicht gesehen, aber letzte Woche horte ich noch ein bisschen von Gotterdammerung.
For y'all's that don't Deutsch sprechen. I like Wagner but haven't seen an opera in over a year. I listed to a bit from Gotterdammerung last week, but that's about it. Wagner is one of my favorite composers.

Beers to all,

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[FliegendeWolf 0]

Ask the people who voted for option 2. I voted option 1.
In all seriousness, Wagner was a complete megalomaniac. Even if the charges of antisemitism were false (which I do not believe they were-but at the same time this was 19th Century Germany...antisemitism was not exactly rare), all records indicate that Wagner was an absolute nightmare to work with because he was stubborn and was never willing to compromise his ideals no matter how impractical or impossible (hence the cheesy dragon special effects in Siegfried). If it hadn't been for the insane King Ludwig who was enamored with him and thus showered wealth and political leverage on him, Wagner would have been unable to do anything that he ended up doing.

If nothing else, he was certainly charismatic.

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[FliegendeWolf 0]

Tristan und Isolde is hands down my favorite!

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Ride of the Valkeries is the ringer on my phone. He is rollin' over in his grave everytime I get a call...

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[racer42 0]

I big a Wagner fan too. The only problem is the first act of Parsifal is longer than the complete works of Verdi.

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[misskriss 0]

Men who listen to Opera totally turn me on......there is nothing better..

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Now, was HE really an asshole, or was it just that Hitler liked him so much and used his music so much that now people THINK he was an asshole?

I wrote a paper on the evolution of racism, and for research I read all these obscure German texts, some of which had forewords by R.W. himself. I'm now convinced he was a racist fuckhead. A musically gifted fuckhead, granted, but a fuckhead nonetheless.

I apologise for the swearing, but I hate those who are intolerant of others (the Dutch are typical of this - thank you Goldmember!).

Nick
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[FliegendeWolf 0]

How you doin'?

BTW, perhaps we should add Listening to Opera here!

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