Art or Crap ??

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http://www.modestypanel.com/artorcrap/#

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

The urinal one is wrong - someone did exhibit one (forgot the name of the "artist") .

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[falxori 0]

simple solution

art = crap

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simple solution

art = crap

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Agree.

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

THIS is art. Involves physics as well so it can't be all bad

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[Laurel 0]

It's all art. Designers who come up with shapes to make our lives easier - like urinals, tooth brushes, chairs - are artists that just do not get credit for the work they do in the high-flutin' art world. Also I send major props out to the graphic designers that come up with the packaging for all this stuff as well - like the Brillo box that Andy Warhol did not design but just stacked up in his studio and had people come by to take a look at them.

And by the way, the urinal was art. Duchamp put a urinal at an art show and called it "The Fountain" giving credit for the practical designers in the world.

Would anyone guess I was an art history major in college and grad school?

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

I disagree - there's a fundamental difference between functionality and art by definition art is in itself useless

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I disagree - there's a fundamental difference between functionality and art by definition art is in itself useless

I consider this art - and it is not useless (NSFW)

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[falxori 0]

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It's all art.

for some people (mostly guys) , crap is also a form of art...

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As usual, chicks are the exeption to the rules

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[Casie 0]

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simple solution

art = crap

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LOL

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So if anything and everything is art, why bother calling things art? Isn't that just redundancy? Or, if everything is art, is there such a thing as bad art?

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Post: The urinal one is wrong - someone did exhibit one (forgot the name of the "artist")

I SAW that piss-pot It's on display at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art...

as is the Warhol (Brillo)
...and the Michael Jackson "thing". (THAT one is really scary).

They had a chair that looked very much like the "yoyo stand" (whathehellisayoyostand?"). An Airstream trailer is also featured.

the SFMOMA is a day long wander through the esoteric, the eclectic, and "the excrement". Had I been smart enough to bring a notepad I would have done researtch on some of the "artists" afterword but now, months later, most are just nameless images in my mind. Some are brilliant, some are bullshit.

Dave Brubeck lovers (the jazz dude, and "artist" without question) will enjoy some of the abstract expressionist/surrealist/cubist gallery that includes works by Joan Miro and Picasso.

An entire gallery is devoted to post modernist stuff by the likes of Jackson Pollock and Andy Warhol. This gallery, in particular, taught me how even ones proximity to the piece can change its appearance and meaning. Leaving this gallery, we are confronted by "that Michael Jackson piece" - and it's as garish and gawdy as it appears. Suits the entertainer very well, I thought.

There's a gallery of nothing but architecture with the theme of integrating water into design (a structure in England that is entirely engulfed in a "water cloud", manmade, intentionally. Then comes the Airstream trailer, the chair carved out of a block of foam and covered in something you might wear to a rubber-fetish party , and a plain canvas of heat-sensitive paint with the demand "TOUCH ME !!"

Perhaps the most dramatic exhibit occupied almost al of the top floor - photographs by Andreras Gursky. Most of his works would not fit in a Twin Otter - how he does this with film is beyond me. WHAT he does beyond huge renderings of events like the May Day parade, a Madonna concert, a World Cup football match, the NY Stock Exchange, the Bundesbank, etc. is beyond description. Some are so lifelike and accurate they may as well be a window on the world. And some have "alterations" that 'cannot' be described.

Is it art or is it crap? For twelve bucks I saw both and would go again.

Dave

PS: the outstanding piece of 'crap' was not the porcelain urinal. It was a three panel "painting", each measuring about three by six feet. They were painted alright, with pure, solid white. In fact, the description of the piece was to the effect of "the intention is to create a pure vision of white... the artist instructed the curators to repaint the piece in pure white should it ever become soiled ... this has been done three times since 1958" WTF???? Perhaps he would like to paint the white trim on my HOUSE for me

Dave

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Is Casie's "dead cat" avatar art?

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it's alll crap.

Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky

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Is Casie's "dead cat" avatar art?

LOL...you're sooo funny! Of course, my avatar is art

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I've been to a few of the museums and art galleries in SF. I preferred the zoo, the bears were a hoot.

In Sarasota, Fl, they have a main street art festival that goes for 4 blocks. One artist told me that 90% of his buyers don't know or like art. They just buy it to talk to their friends about. After 3 weeks, they give it away, or store it, and then buy something new.

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Sure - everything is art because all art is relative. Now, there is art I don't like and would never hang in my home, but I appreciate it. And there is art that I think is better executed than other similar forms, but it is still someone's creative soul.

i.e. - remember the guy who put human excrement on a canvas and hung it in the Bronx Art Museum? That, to him and others, was art and I agree - but I would not have hung that piece of crap in my house - pun fully intended.

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I agree - naked chicks are an artform that has been marveled for years. Too bad the dudes have not been portrayed as fairly (i.e. David's tiny weenie)

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There is some skydiving art out there. Dave Rickerby has been doing t-shirts, paintings, poptop covers, etc for years. He even did a painting on the wall at a bar in Zhills a while back. The bar changed owners and they painted over part of it, but part is still there.

I haven't spoke to him since he hurt his leg, but if you see him on a dz, he can definitely show you some cool stuff.

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Awesome - I'd love to see it someday.

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