r2hubert 0 #1 June 23, 2003 Here is my story, there is for sure a lesson to learn.... I'm selling my Sabre 170 and somebody want to test jump it. After two jump with it, the dude explain me that he really do not like my canopy. He didn't tell me why and I have to go on the next load. The next thing I know is that he ask somebody to show him the way to pack a Sabre because he do not like the opening, they are too slow! The guy pack the canopy... uncolapse the pilot chute and the dude stop him and ask: "What did you just do to the pilot chute?" Okay I stop here you get the picture! He jumped 2 times without uncolapsing the damn pilot chute!!! Later he comes to me and tell me that now it open better and it doesn't take a 1000ft to get line stretch! I was shocked This dude is damn lucky that the canopy open and I'm glad he pulled both times at 4500ft !!! -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #2 June 23, 2003 HOLY SMOKES!!!! __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadySkyDIve 0 #3 June 23, 2003 This makes the "those who have 9 lives" club. I'll have to add it to my list of stories where you can't believe the person actually lived!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #4 June 23, 2003 I'd contact the S&TA at the DZ. That guy needs a check IMO. I'm not one to pass judgement like that but for cryin' out loud!So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #5 June 23, 2003 Holy SCHNEIKES!!!!! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #6 June 23, 2003 Thats almost is worthy of the incidents forum. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #7 June 23, 2003 I posted about this on "General Skydiving..." check it __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #8 June 23, 2003 Hand that man a bowling ball.... It's safer and dumb proof!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #9 June 23, 2003 Quote somebody want to test jump it..... He jumped 2 times without uncolapsing the damn pilot chute!!! Ha Ha nice attitude,ill tell at the dz were a guy complain about too hard openings What a test jumper... do you have any info about this "knowleged jumper" # of jumps and so.. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #10 June 23, 2003 The guy in question who jumped this is an older jumper. He has never jumped with a colapsable pilot chute before and may have not even been aware that colapsable pilot chutes existed in the first place. The guy has 600 or so jumps... Been jumping for many many years off and on. Just an older time jumper who has not really cared to catch up on revolutionary new ideas like a colapsable pilot chute... It 's funny as long as no one gets hurt... But yeah you should know your gear before you jump it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #11 June 23, 2003 the jumper in question is Seb.... nice try trying to deflect attention away from yourself with that 600 jumps thing... we know you have 2000... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #12 June 23, 2003 Quote Just an older time jumper who has not really cared to catch up on revolutionary new ideas like a collapsible pilot chute One of his landings was caught on camera. He was also totaly unaware of having a hot-air-balloon-in-tow malfunction. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 June 23, 2003 Quote He was also totaly unaware of having a hot-air-balloon-in-tow malfunction Hey, don't laugh. I've had that happen to me 3 times. It's very hard to identify. Especially when jumping one of the new PSCs. (pyramid shaped canopy). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #14 June 23, 2003 Quote Hand that man a bowling ball.... It's safer and dumb proof!!!! Yeah, but bowling balls don't ever get to line stretch. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #15 June 23, 2003 NICE PICTURE ! That must be the So. African guy with the Da Vinci parachute. The thing worked beautifully too, though he cutaway from it at 3 grand and landed under his normal rig. The cameramen who jumped with him had to float in their brakes to not go below, and it was rock solid stable. He said it was just a beautiful ride. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #16 June 23, 2003 I heard he hooked it in and swooped the nile on it. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 June 23, 2003 God damn! What a lucky SOB. How did he miss that in packing class? Even with non-collapsable PCs we teach our students about collapsable PCs and they see them EVERY weekend on EVERYONES gear.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #18 June 23, 2003 So being an older jumper is an excuse to stop learning? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #19 June 23, 2003 He is not a student. He is an older time jumper who probably self taught himself 12 years ago or whatever. Why he never noticed what others where doing around him as they flapped their PC's around? I'll attribute that to poor eye sight and a softer brain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #20 June 23, 2003 Quote So being an older jumper is an excuse to stop learning?Did I say that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #21 June 23, 2003 Ah, I can understand that, I've seen that kind of jumper before...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvsdjumper 0 #22 June 23, 2003 He jumped it twice eh? It has been my own personal experience that on the next jump he would have had a malfunction. It is possible to buy a rig and know nothing about a collapsible pilot chute. It happened to me when I got word of a rig at another dropzone half way across the state. I had only about 80 jumps and drove there myself. I jumped it there twice (first time on their pack job, second time on mine (did not cock the PC)). I jumped it at my home DZ twice (first time it worked, second time it didn't). Although for me, the opening times didn't seem unusual (except for the last one which I definately would have rode into the ground or until the CYPRES popped (whichever would have came first) had I not gone to the reserve). Shit happens. --ArtSky-div'ing (ski'div'ing) n. A modern sport that involves parties, bragging, sexual excesses, the imbibing of large quantities of beer, and, on rare occasions, parachuting from aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #23 June 23, 2003 Reading those answers, I just realize something. I guess he never ask for a gear check before boarding the plane. Because I'm sure I'm not the only one to ask the color I should see in the window of the bridle (I ask even if I see a color). -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #24 June 23, 2003 I suppose the moral is, that we all do stupid stuff, and whilst we may wince at this story, it just might be saving someones ass right now. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvsdjumper 0 #25 June 23, 2003 Yep, part of the reason "shit happens" is because we all do stupid shit on occasion. Since there is someone else out there who jumped without cocking their PC because they didn't know they needed to, I think the moral of the story is risk insulting someone's intelligence with the benefit of potentially saving their life by telling the buyer that the rig has a collapsible PC and make sure they know what that means. --ArtSky-div'ing (ski'div'ing) n. A modern sport that involves parties, bragging, sexual excesses, the imbibing of large quantities of beer, and, on rare occasions, parachuting from aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
