MattM 0 #26 June 25, 2003 Is anyone using As400 or MFG-PRO still for their manufacturing system? Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiltboy 0 #27 June 25, 2003 I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's an instrumentation company and most of the work is assembly line. The six sigma idea was to identify defects so they could minimise reworking time after it failed final QC. I heard the phrase "lean manufacturing" several times but I was more involved in testing, evaluation of the prototypes then anything else. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #28 June 25, 2003 Anybody remember TQL or ISO 9000? F*in' management fads. Can't wait til Scott Adams gets ahold of this one. "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattM 0 #29 June 25, 2003 Yea, we have six sigma here, it is required that some people take the course..... all of which say it was a waste of their time. Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #30 June 25, 2003 Most of the "process management fads" actually work if the company is willing to invest enough time, effort and money into them. Doing them halfway is worse than doing nothing at all. Taking them seriously with major participation can work. It just seems like that never happens. So the system gets a bad rap, when it was actually a good system with a bad implementation. But what do I know? I've never actually had to suffer through any of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GrumpySmurf 0 #31 June 25, 2003 3 hours? Oh how I wish. We had 2 weeks of training (as in 80 hours kind of 2 weeks) - said training, followed by Green Belt certification, is manditory for all salaried employees at our company. I wouldn't be surprised if our team leads and program mangers will need Black Belt in the not too distant future. I was thinking of my Green Belt project being weighing the cost vs. benefit of Six Sigma in terms of dollar savings vs employee productivity lost - they didn't like that idea much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,560 #32 June 25, 2003 QuoteMost of the "process management fads" actually work if the company is willing to invest enough time, effort and money into them They're not cheap, though. We began documenting our first formalized process in 1977. Personally, I think we have too many now, but we do develop man-rated software. We are at, or very close to, six sigma quality. And yes, it takes a definite commitment from management that the process is as worthy of time as the actual work production. What do you buy with all that process? Predictability. Predictable costs, predictable production times, predictable quality. It's utterly frustrating sometimes, though. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
GrumpySmurf 0 #31 June 25, 2003 3 hours? Oh how I wish. We had 2 weeks of training (as in 80 hours kind of 2 weeks) - said training, followed by Green Belt certification, is manditory for all salaried employees at our company. I wouldn't be surprised if our team leads and program mangers will need Black Belt in the not too distant future. I was thinking of my Green Belt project being weighing the cost vs. benefit of Six Sigma in terms of dollar savings vs employee productivity lost - they didn't like that idea much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,560 #32 June 25, 2003 QuoteMost of the "process management fads" actually work if the company is willing to invest enough time, effort and money into them They're not cheap, though. We began documenting our first formalized process in 1977. Personally, I think we have too many now, but we do develop man-rated software. We are at, or very close to, six sigma quality. And yes, it takes a definite commitment from management that the process is as worthy of time as the actual work production. What do you buy with all that process? Predictability. Predictable costs, predictable production times, predictable quality. It's utterly frustrating sometimes, though. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
wmw999 2,560 #32 June 25, 2003 QuoteMost of the "process management fads" actually work if the company is willing to invest enough time, effort and money into them They're not cheap, though. We began documenting our first formalized process in 1977. Personally, I think we have too many now, but we do develop man-rated software. We are at, or very close to, six sigma quality. And yes, it takes a definite commitment from management that the process is as worthy of time as the actual work production. What do you buy with all that process? Predictability. Predictable costs, predictable production times, predictable quality. It's utterly frustrating sometimes, though. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
