geronimo 1 #1 June 25, 2003 USPA is US may seem as a propaganda slogan to you. The truth is that USPA can only change some rules with the membership's help. That is what our founders saw to be self-evident and that is how it should be. USPA needs your support, yeah or nay, in determining three changes to the Constitution and Bylaws that relate to the size, composition and election of the Board of Directors. I understand the held over angst that many jumpers have from preceding BODs. I share many of the same disappointments and frustrations that other members have. I did something about that. I ran for the BOD and obtained a seat with the help of many, many jumpers across this nation. I am working within the bureaucracy - that is no easy task. I have answered many personal emails about these issues. Part of my duties as a member of the Constitution and By-laws Committee was to put forth to the membership, specific proxies that the membership demanded. USPA has done that. USPA has put forth specific proxies. Some of the changes have voter precedents in their passage. Other proxy initiatives have been called for over several years and have substantial data to support their merit. Still, even as USPA reacts as a malleable agency for the jumpers, there is resistance. I call all jumpers to ask yourself if YOU are doing what USPA needs today. Are you doing something today that will make USPA be what YOU want it to be tomorrow? If not, why not? Do you want to see Board members that only get 100 votes or less on the Board? Or do you want to see strong regional competition among several highly qualified candidates? see http://ParachuteHistory.com/skydive/uspa/elections/eleccandidates.html to learn how infrequently RD have competition. RD Candidates are currently under a rule that they must obtain 10% of their region's members signatures to get on the ballot. This is ludicrous. The incumbent RDs do not have to do this, The NDs (incumbent or challengers) do not have to do this. Have you sent in your proxy? You may assign your proxy to any USPA member that will be in attendance at the GMM. I have posted several times on these issues. A quick search will find the - PROS vs CONS - HISTORY - RELATED MATERIAL--- I have a dream that my posts will one day will not be judged by the color of the fonts or settings in a Profile but by the content. Geronimo_AT_http://ParachuteHistory.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 June 25, 2003 Umm..who are you. Going by your profile you're a Native American living in Botswana. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 June 25, 2003 Yeah, pretty wierd huh! Actually that's USPA National Director, Jan Meyer. Jan has been in the sport longer than some of us have been alive. She's pretty good folk. I don't agree with everything she says, but that's ok. It would be boring if everybody agreed on everything. You can read more about her on her web site(s).quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #4 June 25, 2003 37 posts and already a geronimo! Ww!!! My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 June 25, 2003 Quotegeronimo That seems to be a personality/pseudonym she came up with about the time she put up the parachutehistory.com web site. It's not a huge secret she runs that site, because, well, just look at it. It reeks of her design style. Personally, I think she'd have a bit more credibility just by using her own name, but then again, we don't agree on everything. I've also posted under pseudonyms here and elsewhere, but I never expect to have any credibility when I use one.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geronimo 1 #6 June 26, 2003 Quote37 posts and already a geronimo! Ww!!! Here is a post from sangiro: What does the title "geronimo", "pooh-bah", and "carpal tunnel" say about a person's skydiving skills? I think it's abundantly clear that these titles have nothing to do with skydiving. So, to the confused out there: Check any advice you get on these forums (or anywhere else), whether the title says "newbie" or "veteran" and the profile says 10 or 12,000 jumps, with your own instructors and before you apply it. If this is not your attitude about this sport in general already, then you may want to take up bowling. This forum isn't playing a "dangerous game". Skydiving is a dangerous pursuit. If you're not smart enough to know that all information needs filtering and verification before you apply it to something that may cost you your life when you screw up... well, then you're halfway on the way to hurting yourself already... regardless of whether these forums exist or not. In the end you're responsible for your own safety in this sport, you make your own decisions on what to listen to and what not, what to do and what not - not some "veteran" on an internet forum! Don't be a Lemming! Safe swoops Sangiro BTW, I believe I joined DZ.com rosters LONG before the Geronimo 'rating' was even thought of. Member of the Purdue bowling Team 77-78 Ladder #1 or #2--- I have a dream that my posts will one day will not be judged by the color of the fonts or settings in a Profile but by the content. Geronimo_AT_http://ParachuteHistory.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #7 June 26, 2003 Sure, Jan, but you should make it clear in your posts who you are and that you are our representative to the USPA. Geronimo is cool and all, and appropriate for your personal endeavours, but in this thread you are acting as a BoD member, or at least a concerned USPA member, therefore you should clearly identify yourself without us having to do detective work through your sites. Peter (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #8 June 26, 2003 I try to stay out of politcal posts. What do I want from my USPA? Simple. I want the athlete's and fun jumpers best interests put first before all other relationships. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #9 June 26, 2003 QuoteI try to stay out of politcal posts. What do I want from my USPA? Simple. I want the athlete's and fun jumpers best interests put first before all other relationships. Yeah, that's neat Betsy, but what does it mean? Nothing personal, but that's line that everyone's been spouting for as long as I've been in the sport (longer than some, less than most). It means nothing. What do you really want out of the USPA? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #10 June 26, 2003 QuoteIt means nothing. What do you really want out of the USPA? As an international judge for an Olympic sport I will tell you this.... When best interests are served venue for meets are chozen not by the cheapest bid, but rather by what serves the athletes. Location,facilities, accessibility,cost etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #11 June 26, 2003 Betsy, this sounds a lot like you're echoing Bryan Burke's "all Nationals should be held at Skydive AZ" line. Are you? How does that serve the membership? For those who don't remember that, you can check the link below for more info. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=adja9b%2411n1la%241%40ID-75676.news.dfncis.de&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3D%252Bbryan%2Bburke%2B%252Bnationals%26meta%3Dgroup%253Drec.skydivin Edit: Fixed the link. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geronimo 1 #12 June 26, 2003 Quote Betsy, this sounds a lot like you're echoing Bryan Burke's "all Nationals should be held at Skydive AZ" line. Are you? How does that serve the membership? For those who don't remember that, you can check the link below for more info. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=adja9b%2411n1la%241%40ID-75676.news.dfncis.de&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3D%252Bbryan%2Bburke%2B%252Bnationals%26meta%3Dgroup%253Drec.skydivin Edit: Fixed the link. - Jim Altho, I do not quite follow how this thread evolved to the Nationals, there is a thread on http://skyleague.com about National's site selection.--- I have a dream that my posts will one day will not be judged by the color of the fonts or settings in a Profile but by the content. Geronimo_AT_http://ParachuteHistory.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 June 26, 2003 Of course, it should be noted that the NSL web site discussion board is not exactly representative of the entire country nor wishes of the USPA general membership -- it's highly Florida-centric. That said, they do seem to prefer Eloy. It will be interesting to see how things swing after the wind tunnel in Perris opens up. ********** Back to the general topic at hand -- The USPA has to do more than simply look out for the competitors and fun jumper, it also has to deal with the government by self regulating the sport and giving input to FAA NPRMs. I know that some people don't like that role, but it's far better than having the FAA make rules in a vacuum. However, in doing so, the USPA must be careful how it words what it recommends. I personally do not agree with some of the input the USPA gave on the rewrite of FAR 105. I think it protected the short term interests of the dropzones while reducing the possibility of long term learning. I'm specifically talking about incident and accident reporting. To oppose this, I think, was simply the wrong thing to do.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,158 #14 June 26, 2003 Quote Location,facilities, accessibility,cost etc. Must be talking about Chicago... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,158 #15 June 26, 2003 QuoteOf course, it should be noted that the NSL web site discussion board is not exactly representative of the entire country nor wishes of the USPA general membership -- it's highly Florida-centric. It's even more 4-way centric.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 June 26, 2003 Well, yeah . . . quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
