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Quote"Turn the other cheek"--that refers to when someone says something insulting or perhaps borrows something without permission.
I heard a very interesting analysis of this particular piece once that suggested that there was actually quite a bit more to "turn the other cheek" than might normally be considered.
It goes something like this.
Jesus was a radical. When he suggested somebody "turn the other cheek" what he really meant was that for someone to normally strike you they used their LEFT hand, because the right hand would be holding their sword and by turning the other cheek toward them they were then pretty much forced to use their other hand, which meant that they'd then be vulnerable to a fatal counter attack.
Interesting analysis.
You can read anything into the Bible you want to.
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Paul, you are thinking about it too much...you're not supposed to think about the scripture unless what it says does not suit you, and you therefore have to come up with some interpretation that fits conveniently into what you would like it to say. You're going to mess up the whole thing... 
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QuoteYeah, but if I catch you trying to commit a crime in my house or on my property at night, then I will take care of the death penalty with a nice grouping.
Mmmkay, but if I hear you say something like this and later hear you put forth scripture as moral absolute, I will call your b.s.
A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All
Jesus was a radical. When he suggested somebody "turn the other cheek" what he really meant was that for someone to normally strike you they used their LEFT hand, because the right hand would be holding their sword and by turning the other cheek toward them they were then pretty much forced to use their other hand, which meant that they'd then be vulnerable to a fatal counter attack.
You can read anything into the Bible you want to.
You can read anything into the Bible you want to.
Very interesting. It makes sense, and I've never thought of that before.
Deep analysis.
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QuoteThis person alone justifies the existence of the death penalty. She is a disgusting waste of a human being. How anyone could be so inhumane to anyone or anything is utterly beyond my ability to understand.
...disgusting waste of human being...
wow, so many judges and god-like persons here.
ok, my 2 ct.
Death penalty is not punishment, it is just primitive revenge. Nothing more. And people who call themselves Christians and are supporting the death penalty are the most disgusting hypocrits i can imagine.
And does the existence of death penalty stop people doing all kinds of cruelty to other people? Not at all.
It's really sad to see how fast people judge about the fates of other people that they don't even know. I mean, has anybody here been a direct witness of this incident or does anybody here know all the circumstances or is at least interessted in figuring them out? I guess not. But everybody has a quick verdict at hand, b/c of what the media said.
i can't understand this, sorry, but maybe it's because im just a
German Weazl
Death penalty is not punishment, it is just primitive revenge. Nothing more. And people who call themselves Christians and are supporting the death penalty are the most disgusting hypocrits i can imagine.
And does the existence of death penalty stop people doing all kinds of cruelty to other people? Not at all.
And does the existence of death penalty stop people doing all kinds of cruelty to other people? Not at all.
Okay, so if we do away with the death penalty, here's what I propose...
When we send a criminal to prison with a life sentence, don't provide televisions. Don't provide 3 meals equivalent to what you could find outside the prison walls; feed them pig slop.
Sending a person to prison in the current system is not a punishment; they have a home, clothing, food, and entertainment. All for free; they don't pay a dime for this!
I am truly not a firm believer in the death penalty; however, the idea of spending the rest of their lives in prison is no deterrent for criminals now, because it's free room and board for life. When prison actually becomes a threat, by all means, let's do away with the death penalty.
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QuoteMmmkay, but if I hear you say something like this and later hear you put forth scripture as moral absolute, I will call your b.s.
The only scripture I'll put down as an absolute with that is Texas law, since Texas law gives me the authority to do all of the above (and more, actually).
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When have I ever done that? I've argued theology on here before but never once stated scripture as a complete and full moral authority. Eitherway, the life I lead is already contradicting that.
On a fun side, if you want to see extreme violence, read the Old Testiment. God flat out puts the smack down on quite a few different civilizations/countries and has everything there killed.
--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."
I haven't committed a crime on your property, either! 
A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All
QuoteThis person alone justifies the existence of the death penalty
Just like the people who've later been found to be innocent of the crime have been killed justify outlawing the death penalty. Regardless of your thoughts on the value of a human life and who gets to decide that value, how can anyone justify a method which has and will kill innocent people? Putting criminals in jail will protect citizens just as easily as giving them the death penalty.
But, that's not the point of this thread. If what I've read is complete and true, then she should be tried for murder.
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QuoteQuoteThis person alone justifies the existence of the death penalty
Just like the people who've later been found to be innocent of the crime have been killed justify outlawing the death penalty.
Yes, I agree with that statement, which is why it's hard for me to say yes or no to the death penalty. In cases such as this one, she admittedly didn't value the life of another human being. When the case is so cut and dry, I find it very hard to argue against the death penalty, even when I don't like the idea of murder, including the death penalty.
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QuoteYes, I agree with that statement, which is why it's hard for me to say yes or no to the death penalty. In cases such as this one, she admittedly didn't value the life of another human being. When the case is so cut and dry, I find it very hard to argue against the death penalty, even when I don't like the idea of murder, including the death penalty.
The fact that one would be so willing to sentence this woman to death suggests that he or she also does not value the life of another human being. I have a lot of trouble believing that some lives are more valuable than others.
A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All
QuoteIn cases such as this one, she admittedly didn't value the life of another human being. When the case is so cut and dry, I find it very hard to argue against the death penalty, even when I don't like the idea of murder, including the death penalty.
http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/factsinnocence.html
Sure, this site is biased, but the cases are easily cross checked with other resources.
Many people have been put on death row in "cut and dry" situations. I don't think anyone would put someone on death row unless it was "cut and dry." You don't know all the facts. You can never be 100% certain that she is guilty.
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I vote we wallpaper her cell with posters of the dead man and the damaged vehicle windshield.
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QuoteI vote we wallpaper her cell with posters of the dead man and the damaged vehicle windshield.
See! Now that's the kind of punishment I'm talking about! Creative punishments! I like it!
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She is guilty by her own testimony. Watch Court TV. She was convicted by a jury and she will have the appeal process, ad infinitum. And that is as it should be. Cell without end, amen.
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Sounds like you'd be quite happy if we adopted a system of Islamic law.
Blues,
Dave
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