skybytch 273 #1 July 7, 2003 California. It's a great place to live most of the time. The weather, the scenery, the weather... Besides traffic and the high cost of living, California also has what's known as the "Department of Motor Vehicles" or DMV. This name is misleading. It's more like the Department of Stand and Wait Until We Get Back From Break Then Give Us Your Money and If You're Lucky We'll Give You A Small Plastic Sticker or Card. Because too many people decided to live, work and drive in one of the best climatatic areas in the state (and because it is yet another way to make us pay for the privilege of living here), California also has what is known as the "Smog Check" program. This name is also misleading but I won't elaborate, mainly because we seem to be done with the butt fuck threads for awhile. Where I live you have to get a "Smog Check" every two years to register your vehicle. So anyway, today I took my car to the nearest "Test Only Smog Check" center. There are also "Test and Repair Smog Check" shops out there that charge $10 - $20 less for the test, but my car is so special that I'm required to take it to a more expensive "Test Only" center. It passed everything but the CO(%) at 15 mph; max is 0.96 and it was 1.44 (whatever that means....). So after an hour's wait I handed the nice lady $59.75 for the privilege of having them test my vehicle, then I left with my invoice and test results (2 sheets of 8 1/2 x 11 paper). My mechanic dad says if I have the front cat. converter replaced it will probably pass. So does the smog guy at the dealership my kid works at. Problem is that thing is buried deep in the front end and is going to be a bitch (read expensive) to remove and replace. Since my car registration expired at the end of June I headed over to the DMV to pay the fees and show my proof of insurance (gotta have that too if you want the sticker...). 50 minutes later, after sending a few emails and texts and having an interesting conversation with the two people in front of me, I paid that nice lady $65, showed her my proof of insurance and she gave me a small piece of paper to put in the back window of my car. Happily, this small piece of paper will a) keep nice police officers from pulling me over for expired registration and b) give me until the end of August to get the problem fixed and get it retested (another $60...). I spent $125 today. I got 2 pieces of 8 1/2"x11" standard copy paper and one piece of 4"x4" red paper with a big white 8 in the middle of it. Sometimes it sucks living in California... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #2 July 7, 2003 Quote Well, in the Chicago metro area we have to have an emissions test too. My car had to have a new catalytic converter this time around; it was a mere $1,100 for the part and some $150 in labor. Good luck.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DTOXX 0 #3 July 7, 2003 Also living in California I can not only relate to this story but can attest to its merits. I had an 84 Honda Prelude that I loved to drive. It had over 250 thousand miles but the engine was strong and it handled like a dream. I would race coworkers from the office. Its two miles down hill with hairpin turns. I could wait at the bottom, get out, pop the pepsi and have it half finished before they caught up. Anyway, it failed smog, again on the CO, and it was would have cost the maximum allowable by law to repair. I got every extention known to keep driving it but in the end it was cheaper to get rid of my car than to repair. The state of California has a "gross polluter" rule as part of the smog check system. I ensured that the car would fail in the highest sense of the word on the last recheck. This made me eligable for the gross poluter program. The state purchased my car for $1,000 cash while it only had a blue book of $255. By the way, If you sell a car in California and it needs a smog check YOU are still responsible for it. In closing, when its your last day to drive a car that is fast and corners great, the police are still out there. I spent part of the grand to pay for a well deserved ticket and for the traffic school to keep it off my record. ------- D.T. Holder SIMstudy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crapflinger2000 1 #4 July 7, 2003 I am gonna go through this crap pretty quickly myself... What is the maximum repair amount? How does that work? If it would cost over some amount to repair you get some waiver or something??? Or is that that maximum polluter thing?... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yardhippie 0 #5 July 7, 2003 yea... that does suck. I really wouldnt know cuz her in Arkansas.... theyre like: "smog, shmog." My car wouldnt pass an emmissions test even if I put a cat. on it! and I do love my car... it goes sooooooo fast. Guess that makes up for a little for having to live in Arkansas. happy day! Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #6 July 7, 2003 QuoteWhat is the maximum repair amount? How does that work? If it would cost over some amount to repair you get some waiver or something??? Got me. A bit of somewhat related happy news - the lady at the smog place gave me an application for the Bureau of Automotive Repairs (yup, more government) Consumer Assistance Program. Because I had to go to a Test Only station and it failed, if I apply I only have to pay the first $100 of repair costs (as long as it's not over $600). I'm a bit happier now than I was before I read that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fundgh 0 #7 July 7, 2003 I had a smog place stuff a marble in my air blow back which caused it to fail big time and after bunch of money and taking every freakin thing off of the car I found the marble. After that it passed just fine. Fuckers!...FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #8 July 7, 2003 Quoteit was would have cost the maximum allowable by law to repair. WTF? The maximum allowable by law to repair? You people actually allow the state to create laws such as this? That's absurd. QuoteThe state purchased my car for $1,000 cash while it only had a blue book of $255. That's wonderful, your tax dollars at work. Again, I'm so happy I don't live there. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #9 July 7, 2003 Yeah, I just had quite the epic adventure of getting my Texas truck registered in California. It sorta reminded me of Shakespeare's "Comedy of Errors"... It probably would have gone smoothly if it wasn't for the wreck I had back in December... turns out the VIN# was missing from my door, so the DMV couldn't complete an inspection and sent me to CHP... well CHP couldn't see me for almost two months (despite the fact that I only had 60 days to return my forms!)... then when I go to CHP it turns out that my insurance company has *accidentally* reported my vehicle as a total loss so they were unable to register my truck until I got that cleared up... It all turned out to be such a hassle that when they finally handed me my CA plates I was jumping with joy! The one good thing I have to say about the CA DMV though (compared to TX) is that they let you make appointments! And it actually works! Every time I went there I never had to wait more than 10 minutes to talk to someone. In TX it was almost always an hour wait... That sucks about failing the smog check though... No fun to spend money on your car when it's not really necessary :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #10 July 7, 2003 "We are the government. We are here to help you. We take your money, your freedom, and your life and give you little pieces of paper in return..."____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #11 July 7, 2003 California Uber Alles - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumprunner 0 #12 July 7, 2003 Im looking forward to paying for the privledge myself. They have the same smog check program in the Phoenix area but not throughout Arizona. I also have been hearing that when you register your car in California, you have to pay some kind of tax every year which is based on the value of your car. Seems like they have so many ways of making you pay for the priviledge of living there, I wont move there for under 110K. Dont see how else you can afford it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #13 July 7, 2003 got a 27B/6? i'm afraid you cant touch this equipment...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chopchop 0 #14 July 7, 2003 WWWWWWHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #15 July 7, 2003 QuoteWWWWWWHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE Yup. Got some cheese to go with it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kinaa 0 #16 July 7, 2003 We have smog check here in Croatia yearly. And as far as I can tell that is how it is in whole Europe. The process of registration is pretty much same here, we have to pay insurance, tax on MW, and tehnical inspection that include smog check. But it is much expensive here, around 300$ for all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zeemax 0 #17 July 8, 2003 Just be glad you dont live in the UK... Every year our cars need an MOT. Long list of checks that the car has to pass (includes emisions) $60 Road Tax, again each year.. $200 Insurance, each year.. some stupid rip off... lets not forget that joy of fuel tax.. just the 85% on top of the price of the petrol... Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stacy 0 #18 July 8, 2003 don't cry lisa. in a few days you will be in florida. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #19 July 8, 2003 I love living in Oklahoma sometimes. No inspection, no smog check. Independant tag agencies for licenses, registration, & plates. 3.25% excise tax and only a $91 new / renewal registration fee. Getting tags for my new car took all of 7 minutes at the tag agency which is a whopping 2 miles from my house in the shopping mall.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Galen 0 #20 July 8, 2003 Here in FLA there is no emissions check. We don't even have yearly inspections. We also don't have state income tax. True, you have to put up with old people in the winter but as long as they keep pumping in the money and buying those lottery tickets... Respect the Dolphin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TitaniumLegs 8 #21 July 8, 2003 Yeah, gotta have that smog check, but you don't need to fix your brakes, tires, cracked windshield or the fact that only one headlight works (on high beams only, and none of your tail lights. You gotta have US-spec 5mph bumpers when new, but you can immediately take them off and drive all you want. HEY DIPSHIT! The reason you blinkers blink at doube-speed is that it's trying to tell you one of them is burnt out!!! The smog check is a joke forced upon us by the pacifist tree-hugging, otter-f***ing, whale-saving, alfalfa-and-tofu-eating shrubs who have way too much control on this state. Now they want to triple the vehicle tax because they're out of money. WTF?!? Fifth largest economy in the world? Highest taxes in the US, largest taxable base, the roads and schools suck and we're out of money? Where does it all go? (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #22 July 8, 2003 QuoteYeah, gotta have that smog check, but you don't need to fix your brakes, tires, cracked windshield or the fact that only one headlight works (on high beams only, and none of your tail lights. You gotta have US-spec 5mph bumpers when new, but you can immediately take them off and drive all you want. Don't say cracked windshield around me. One of those and an overzealous rookie cop cost me $200 a couple years ago. My pet peeve - raised trucks - y'know the ones that you need a ladder to climb into, with those 4 foot tall tires... the ones that would likely crush your car and you if they rearended you. That's legal but a blown 350 isn't? WTF? QuoteThe smog check is a joke forced upon us by the pacifist tree-hugging, otter-f***ing, whale-saving, alfalfa-and-tofu-eating shrubs who have way too much control on this state. This is purely anecdotal evidence but... when I was a kid 30 years ago we came to LA on a regular basis to visit family. You could smell the smog in the air, even on a "clear" day. Today there are days when you can't smell it at all, even in the heart of the city. No idea if emissions controls contributed to that or not, but I think it's a good thing. Much as I'm bitching about it, I'd still rather go through a bit of hassle and pay a few extra bucks every two years than breathe smog every day. And if it's helping to slow down global warming (not that anyone could prove that it is or isn't)... well that's a good thing too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites oldnewbie 0 #23 July 8, 2003 Skybytch, if you don't know if the emissions testing/laws have helped, visit Caracus Venezuela or Sao paulo Brazil. They still (as of a few years ago) use leaded gas, and no pollution controls. I stinks like it used to here in the states. As much as I hate all of the pollution stuff on new cars (and we don't have to get ours tested here anymore), they are much better than they used to be. Plus, they get better gas milage. But i still like the smell of Jet A in the mornin!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,589 #24 July 8, 2003 Sao Paulo encourages gasohol; they also have gas & pollution saving laws to encourage carpooling -- only odd-numbered license plates can be on the road MWF & even-numbered T-Th. My brother has 2 cars, a MWF car, and a T-Th car. Just about everyone who can afford to does the same thing. The air is, in fact, awful. 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DTOXX 0 #3 July 7, 2003 Also living in California I can not only relate to this story but can attest to its merits. I had an 84 Honda Prelude that I loved to drive. It had over 250 thousand miles but the engine was strong and it handled like a dream. I would race coworkers from the office. Its two miles down hill with hairpin turns. I could wait at the bottom, get out, pop the pepsi and have it half finished before they caught up. Anyway, it failed smog, again on the CO, and it was would have cost the maximum allowable by law to repair. I got every extention known to keep driving it but in the end it was cheaper to get rid of my car than to repair. The state of California has a "gross polluter" rule as part of the smog check system. I ensured that the car would fail in the highest sense of the word on the last recheck. This made me eligable for the gross poluter program. The state purchased my car for $1,000 cash while it only had a blue book of $255. By the way, If you sell a car in California and it needs a smog check YOU are still responsible for it. In closing, when its your last day to drive a car that is fast and corners great, the police are still out there. I spent part of the grand to pay for a well deserved ticket and for the traffic school to keep it off my record. ------- D.T. Holder SIMstudy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #4 July 7, 2003 I am gonna go through this crap pretty quickly myself... What is the maximum repair amount? How does that work? If it would cost over some amount to repair you get some waiver or something??? Or is that that maximum polluter thing?... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #5 July 7, 2003 yea... that does suck. I really wouldnt know cuz her in Arkansas.... theyre like: "smog, shmog." My car wouldnt pass an emmissions test even if I put a cat. on it! and I do love my car... it goes sooooooo fast. Guess that makes up for a little for having to live in Arkansas. happy day! Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #6 July 7, 2003 QuoteWhat is the maximum repair amount? How does that work? If it would cost over some amount to repair you get some waiver or something??? Got me. A bit of somewhat related happy news - the lady at the smog place gave me an application for the Bureau of Automotive Repairs (yup, more government) Consumer Assistance Program. Because I had to go to a Test Only station and it failed, if I apply I only have to pay the first $100 of repair costs (as long as it's not over $600). I'm a bit happier now than I was before I read that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fundgh 0 #7 July 7, 2003 I had a smog place stuff a marble in my air blow back which caused it to fail big time and after bunch of money and taking every freakin thing off of the car I found the marble. After that it passed just fine. Fuckers!...FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #8 July 7, 2003 Quoteit was would have cost the maximum allowable by law to repair. WTF? The maximum allowable by law to repair? You people actually allow the state to create laws such as this? That's absurd. QuoteThe state purchased my car for $1,000 cash while it only had a blue book of $255. That's wonderful, your tax dollars at work. Again, I'm so happy I don't live there. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #9 July 7, 2003 Yeah, I just had quite the epic adventure of getting my Texas truck registered in California. It sorta reminded me of Shakespeare's "Comedy of Errors"... It probably would have gone smoothly if it wasn't for the wreck I had back in December... turns out the VIN# was missing from my door, so the DMV couldn't complete an inspection and sent me to CHP... well CHP couldn't see me for almost two months (despite the fact that I only had 60 days to return my forms!)... then when I go to CHP it turns out that my insurance company has *accidentally* reported my vehicle as a total loss so they were unable to register my truck until I got that cleared up... It all turned out to be such a hassle that when they finally handed me my CA plates I was jumping with joy! The one good thing I have to say about the CA DMV though (compared to TX) is that they let you make appointments! And it actually works! Every time I went there I never had to wait more than 10 minutes to talk to someone. In TX it was almost always an hour wait... That sucks about failing the smog check though... No fun to spend money on your car when it's not really necessary :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #10 July 7, 2003 "We are the government. We are here to help you. We take your money, your freedom, and your life and give you little pieces of paper in return..."____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #11 July 7, 2003 California Uber Alles - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumprunner 0 #12 July 7, 2003 Im looking forward to paying for the privledge myself. They have the same smog check program in the Phoenix area but not throughout Arizona. I also have been hearing that when you register your car in California, you have to pay some kind of tax every year which is based on the value of your car. Seems like they have so many ways of making you pay for the priviledge of living there, I wont move there for under 110K. Dont see how else you can afford it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #13 July 7, 2003 got a 27B/6? i'm afraid you cant touch this equipment...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chopchop 0 #14 July 7, 2003 WWWWWWHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #15 July 7, 2003 QuoteWWWWWWHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE Yup. Got some cheese to go with it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kinaa 0 #16 July 7, 2003 We have smog check here in Croatia yearly. And as far as I can tell that is how it is in whole Europe. The process of registration is pretty much same here, we have to pay insurance, tax on MW, and tehnical inspection that include smog check. But it is much expensive here, around 300$ for all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zeemax 0 #17 July 8, 2003 Just be glad you dont live in the UK... Every year our cars need an MOT. Long list of checks that the car has to pass (includes emisions) $60 Road Tax, again each year.. $200 Insurance, each year.. some stupid rip off... lets not forget that joy of fuel tax.. just the 85% on top of the price of the petrol... Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stacy 0 #18 July 8, 2003 don't cry lisa. in a few days you will be in florida. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #19 July 8, 2003 I love living in Oklahoma sometimes. No inspection, no smog check. Independant tag agencies for licenses, registration, & plates. 3.25% excise tax and only a $91 new / renewal registration fee. Getting tags for my new car took all of 7 minutes at the tag agency which is a whopping 2 miles from my house in the shopping mall.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Galen 0 #20 July 8, 2003 Here in FLA there is no emissions check. We don't even have yearly inspections. We also don't have state income tax. True, you have to put up with old people in the winter but as long as they keep pumping in the money and buying those lottery tickets... Respect the Dolphin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TitaniumLegs 8 #21 July 8, 2003 Yeah, gotta have that smog check, but you don't need to fix your brakes, tires, cracked windshield or the fact that only one headlight works (on high beams only, and none of your tail lights. You gotta have US-spec 5mph bumpers when new, but you can immediately take them off and drive all you want. HEY DIPSHIT! The reason you blinkers blink at doube-speed is that it's trying to tell you one of them is burnt out!!! The smog check is a joke forced upon us by the pacifist tree-hugging, otter-f***ing, whale-saving, alfalfa-and-tofu-eating shrubs who have way too much control on this state. Now they want to triple the vehicle tax because they're out of money. WTF?!? Fifth largest economy in the world? Highest taxes in the US, largest taxable base, the roads and schools suck and we're out of money? Where does it all go? (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #22 July 8, 2003 QuoteYeah, gotta have that smog check, but you don't need to fix your brakes, tires, cracked windshield or the fact that only one headlight works (on high beams only, and none of your tail lights. You gotta have US-spec 5mph bumpers when new, but you can immediately take them off and drive all you want. Don't say cracked windshield around me. One of those and an overzealous rookie cop cost me $200 a couple years ago. My pet peeve - raised trucks - y'know the ones that you need a ladder to climb into, with those 4 foot tall tires... the ones that would likely crush your car and you if they rearended you. That's legal but a blown 350 isn't? WTF? QuoteThe smog check is a joke forced upon us by the pacifist tree-hugging, otter-f***ing, whale-saving, alfalfa-and-tofu-eating shrubs who have way too much control on this state. This is purely anecdotal evidence but... when I was a kid 30 years ago we came to LA on a regular basis to visit family. You could smell the smog in the air, even on a "clear" day. Today there are days when you can't smell it at all, even in the heart of the city. No idea if emissions controls contributed to that or not, but I think it's a good thing. Much as I'm bitching about it, I'd still rather go through a bit of hassle and pay a few extra bucks every two years than breathe smog every day. And if it's helping to slow down global warming (not that anyone could prove that it is or isn't)... well that's a good thing too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites oldnewbie 0 #23 July 8, 2003 Skybytch, if you don't know if the emissions testing/laws have helped, visit Caracus Venezuela or Sao paulo Brazil. They still (as of a few years ago) use leaded gas, and no pollution controls. I stinks like it used to here in the states. As much as I hate all of the pollution stuff on new cars (and we don't have to get ours tested here anymore), they are much better than they used to be. Plus, they get better gas milage. But i still like the smell of Jet A in the mornin!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,589 #24 July 8, 2003 Sao Paulo encourages gasohol; they also have gas & pollution saving laws to encourage carpooling -- only odd-numbered license plates can be on the road MWF & even-numbered T-Th. My brother has 2 cars, a MWF car, and a T-Th car. Just about everyone who can afford to does the same thing. The air is, in fact, awful. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropdeded 0 #25 July 8, 2003 I remember the days when I would give my buddy at the gas station a six pack of Bud bottles and he'd sign it off for me. 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fundgh 0 #7 July 7, 2003 I had a smog place stuff a marble in my air blow back which caused it to fail big time and after bunch of money and taking every freakin thing off of the car I found the marble. After that it passed just fine. Fuckers!...FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #8 July 7, 2003 Quoteit was would have cost the maximum allowable by law to repair. WTF? The maximum allowable by law to repair? You people actually allow the state to create laws such as this? That's absurd. QuoteThe state purchased my car for $1,000 cash while it only had a blue book of $255. That's wonderful, your tax dollars at work. Again, I'm so happy I don't live there. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #9 July 7, 2003 Yeah, I just had quite the epic adventure of getting my Texas truck registered in California. It sorta reminded me of Shakespeare's "Comedy of Errors"... It probably would have gone smoothly if it wasn't for the wreck I had back in December... turns out the VIN# was missing from my door, so the DMV couldn't complete an inspection and sent me to CHP... well CHP couldn't see me for almost two months (despite the fact that I only had 60 days to return my forms!)... then when I go to CHP it turns out that my insurance company has *accidentally* reported my vehicle as a total loss so they were unable to register my truck until I got that cleared up... It all turned out to be such a hassle that when they finally handed me my CA plates I was jumping with joy! The one good thing I have to say about the CA DMV though (compared to TX) is that they let you make appointments! And it actually works! Every time I went there I never had to wait more than 10 minutes to talk to someone. In TX it was almost always an hour wait... That sucks about failing the smog check though... No fun to spend money on your car when it's not really necessary :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #10 July 7, 2003 "We are the government. We are here to help you. We take your money, your freedom, and your life and give you little pieces of paper in return..."____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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jumprunner 0 #12 July 7, 2003 Im looking forward to paying for the privledge myself. They have the same smog check program in the Phoenix area but not throughout Arizona. I also have been hearing that when you register your car in California, you have to pay some kind of tax every year which is based on the value of your car. Seems like they have so many ways of making you pay for the priviledge of living there, I wont move there for under 110K. Dont see how else you can afford it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #13 July 7, 2003 got a 27B/6? i'm afraid you cant touch this equipment...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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skybytch 273 #15 July 7, 2003 QuoteWWWWWWHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE Yup. Got some cheese to go with it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #16 July 7, 2003 We have smog check here in Croatia yearly. And as far as I can tell that is how it is in whole Europe. The process of registration is pretty much same here, we have to pay insurance, tax on MW, and tehnical inspection that include smog check. But it is much expensive here, around 300$ for all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #17 July 8, 2003 Just be glad you dont live in the UK... Every year our cars need an MOT. Long list of checks that the car has to pass (includes emisions) $60 Road Tax, again each year.. $200 Insurance, each year.. some stupid rip off... lets not forget that joy of fuel tax.. just the 85% on top of the price of the petrol... Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #18 July 8, 2003 don't cry lisa. in a few days you will be in florida. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #19 July 8, 2003 I love living in Oklahoma sometimes. No inspection, no smog check. Independant tag agencies for licenses, registration, & plates. 3.25% excise tax and only a $91 new / renewal registration fee. Getting tags for my new car took all of 7 minutes at the tag agency which is a whopping 2 miles from my house in the shopping mall.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Galen 0 #20 July 8, 2003 Here in FLA there is no emissions check. We don't even have yearly inspections. We also don't have state income tax. True, you have to put up with old people in the winter but as long as they keep pumping in the money and buying those lottery tickets... Respect the Dolphin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #21 July 8, 2003 Yeah, gotta have that smog check, but you don't need to fix your brakes, tires, cracked windshield or the fact that only one headlight works (on high beams only, and none of your tail lights. You gotta have US-spec 5mph bumpers when new, but you can immediately take them off and drive all you want. HEY DIPSHIT! The reason you blinkers blink at doube-speed is that it's trying to tell you one of them is burnt out!!! The smog check is a joke forced upon us by the pacifist tree-hugging, otter-f***ing, whale-saving, alfalfa-and-tofu-eating shrubs who have way too much control on this state. Now they want to triple the vehicle tax because they're out of money. WTF?!? Fifth largest economy in the world? Highest taxes in the US, largest taxable base, the roads and schools suck and we're out of money? Where does it all go? (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #22 July 8, 2003 QuoteYeah, gotta have that smog check, but you don't need to fix your brakes, tires, cracked windshield or the fact that only one headlight works (on high beams only, and none of your tail lights. You gotta have US-spec 5mph bumpers when new, but you can immediately take them off and drive all you want. Don't say cracked windshield around me. One of those and an overzealous rookie cop cost me $200 a couple years ago. My pet peeve - raised trucks - y'know the ones that you need a ladder to climb into, with those 4 foot tall tires... the ones that would likely crush your car and you if they rearended you. That's legal but a blown 350 isn't? WTF? QuoteThe smog check is a joke forced upon us by the pacifist tree-hugging, otter-f***ing, whale-saving, alfalfa-and-tofu-eating shrubs who have way too much control on this state. This is purely anecdotal evidence but... when I was a kid 30 years ago we came to LA on a regular basis to visit family. You could smell the smog in the air, even on a "clear" day. Today there are days when you can't smell it at all, even in the heart of the city. No idea if emissions controls contributed to that or not, but I think it's a good thing. Much as I'm bitching about it, I'd still rather go through a bit of hassle and pay a few extra bucks every two years than breathe smog every day. And if it's helping to slow down global warming (not that anyone could prove that it is or isn't)... well that's a good thing too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldnewbie 0 #23 July 8, 2003 Skybytch, if you don't know if the emissions testing/laws have helped, visit Caracus Venezuela or Sao paulo Brazil. They still (as of a few years ago) use leaded gas, and no pollution controls. I stinks like it used to here in the states. As much as I hate all of the pollution stuff on new cars (and we don't have to get ours tested here anymore), they are much better than they used to be. Plus, they get better gas milage. But i still like the smell of Jet A in the mornin!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #24 July 8, 2003 Sao Paulo encourages gasohol; they also have gas & pollution saving laws to encourage carpooling -- only odd-numbered license plates can be on the road MWF & even-numbered T-Th. My brother has 2 cars, a MWF car, and a T-Th car. Just about everyone who can afford to does the same thing. The air is, in fact, awful. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #25 July 8, 2003 I remember the days when I would give my buddy at the gas station a six pack of Bud bottles and he'd sign it off for me. Those were the days dropdeded------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
