freeflyz 0 #1 July 8, 2003 Just received an email from a friend of mine,It was very interesting. I usually delete stuff like this but, reading Bestys post about the gentleman that reinlisted brought this to mind.This was from Rush Limbaugh. I think the vast differences in compensaton between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in uniform are profound.No one is really talking about it either,because you just don't criticize anything having to do with Sept 11.Well,I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about entitlement mentality of this country.If you lost a family member in Sept 11 attack ,you're going to get an average of $1,185,000.The range is a mimimum guarantee of $250,000 all the way up to $4.7 million. If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action,the first check you get is a $6000.00 direct death benefit,half of which is taxable.Next,you get $1,750.00 for burial costs.If you are the surviving spouse,you get $833.00 a month until you remarry.And there's a payment of $211.00 per month for each child under 18.When the child hits 18,those payments come to a screeching halt. Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.Their deaths were tragic,but for most,they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US,and they and their families know the dangers. We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the OKC bombing have started an organzation asking for the same deal Sept 11 families are getting.In addition to that,some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well. You see people where this is going,don't you?Folks,this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country.It's really sad .Every time pay raise comes up for the military,they usally receive next to nothing of a raise.Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing.Make sense??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #2 July 8, 2003 Im not sure Rush was the originator of this but the story is pretty damn close to the truth. many of my friends who have families live below poverty levels NOT COOLMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #3 July 8, 2003 I usually think Rush is a dick, but he (or whoever) has a very valid point. There is a big difference between a hero and a victim. Most of the Sept 11 casualties are victims. Few, like the people on Flight 93 were heroes. They had the information an acted proactively to give up their own lives to save the lives of the people they would have killed. Just as our men and women in the armed forces do. Yes, the event completely and utterly sucks beyond belief. But I believe the Victims of 9/11 or any other terrorist attack are entitled to no more than a victim of any other murder. No taxpayer dollars. Americans need to quit expecting money. Shit happens, cope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #4 July 8, 2003 For the record, Snopes says yes.A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #5 July 8, 2003 QuoteFor the record, Snopes says yes. COOL. thanks!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #6 July 8, 2003 Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the majority of these settlements coming from charities? How much of these payouts are actually from the government? I do agree with the whole logic of that article, though. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumprunner 0 #7 July 8, 2003 We all have a price on our heads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #8 July 8, 2003 QuoteCorrect me if I am wrong, but isn't the majority of these settlements coming from charities? How much of these payouts are actually from the government? Yes these payouts are coming directly from the government. The charity donations are in ADDITION to this. QuoteCongress enacted the Air Transportation Safety and System Stabilization Act to compensate the air carriers for losses incurred as a result of attacks, and provide compensation to any individual who was injured or to the families of any individual who was killed as a result of the terrorist-related aircraft crashes. Congress placed no cap on the fund, but Feinberg estimated the awards could cost from $4 billion to $7 billion and QuoteHowever, he determined that charitable contributions from the more than $1 billion donated in the wake of the attacks would not be subtracted http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/8/23/64917.shtml Greed at its finest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #9 July 8, 2003 Thanks for the info Mr. Monster. I guess everyone thinks something is owed to them. Hey, my ears are clogged and I can't jump this weekend. How much do you think I can get from the government for that? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #10 July 8, 2003 Quote Hey, my ears are clogged and I can't jump this weekend. How much do you think I can get from the government for that? Just prove it was a terrorist plot... It has to do with airplanes, so at least a few hundred thousand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 July 8, 2003 Perfect example of how the media and public perception can and does shape gov't policy. I see no difference between the reason the public accepts this policy, the so called Patriot Act and the war on terror. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #12 July 8, 2003 Shut up Kevin, we're talking about how much I can get for my clogged ears. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #13 July 8, 2003 >If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in >action,the first check you get is a $6000.00 direct death benefit . . . And the administration is now reducing hazard pay and family-separation pay for troops on the front lines. Well, at least the president flew to that aircraft carrier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #14 July 8, 2003 Shut up Bill, we're still talking about how much I can get for my clogged ears. Stay on topic. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #15 July 8, 2003 Quote>If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in >action,the first check you get is a $6000.00 direct death benefit . . . And the administration is now reducing hazard pay and family-separation pay for troops on the front lines. Well, at least the president flew to that aircraft carrier. You mean "rode". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 July 10, 2003 I wish my taxdollars would go towards fighting Al Quaeda, the bastards responsible for the 9/11 attacks (and others), and not towards some administration's fantasy about creating an all-controllling, American right wing pseudo-christian oil-grubbing empire, starting with a country that wasn't even involved. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #17 July 10, 2003 Hey...it was not about oil. Your tax dollars are being used the way they should be. I mean, how else are we going to defeat Iraq unless we give $105 million dollars to Columbia? (That's the amount included in the Iraq War Bill given to the Columbian military). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
