SpeedRacer 1 #51 July 11, 2003 some good points there, happythots. Did anyone see Jay Leno? They had a guy playing Bush on there saying "Mah wife used to be a Liberian." And he also said that Liberians should not start riots, because it disturbs the people who are trying to read. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #52 July 11, 2003 QuotePeople try to make the best decision at the time. No psychics in govt. True, though the question remains if it is the right decision at the time for the circumstances. Or if the decision has been made using alterior motives. I think we can both agree that politicians are not known for their honesty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #53 July 11, 2003 QuoteQuotePeople try to make the best decision at the time. No psychics in govt. True, though the question remains if it is the right decision at the time for the circumstances. Or if the decision has been made using alterior motives. I think we can both agree that politicians are not known for their honesty. That is the purpose of having a "free press", to provide this information. Before anyone leaps in, I realize that there are few truly independent information sources. Newspapers and tv seem to have their own agendas also, but I feel like they are our best options for knowing. Isaac Asimov wrote a "robot" series. It also fed into the Foundation series. The laws of robotics said that robots were not allowed to harm humans through their actions. What happened was that the most complex robots thought out all the possible consequences of their actions in the future. They became totally inactive. If a politician gives $100 million in aid to Africa to fight AIDS during an election year and gets re-elected, so what? They are doing what is best for the populace. (this is just an example.) I will keep re-electing politicians that accomplish my goals, even if their self-interest is re-election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #54 July 11, 2003 Q: How to destroy the largest economy in the world? A: Let it take care of bringing peace and prosperity to Central Africajraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #55 July 12, 2003 QuoteQ: How to destroy the largest economy in the world? A: Let it take care of bringing peace and prosperity to Central Africa A lot of truth to that. Liberia is so unstable that most of the people who could make it work have left the country. Pumping money and resources into the country without stabilizing the violence is unworkable. Unfortunately, there was 7 years of civil war which destroyed most everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #56 July 14, 2003 "The US saved France from learning how to speak fluent German. They liked it when the US flew over to bomb Germany, but 40 years later, they didn't allow the US to fly over to bomb Libya." Wrong. The allies saved France from learning to speak fluent german. The US was not the only country at war. The US was, and remains, the only country ever to have used WMD's to secure victory, dispite it's attempts to mantain the moral high ground in this regard. The US ignored the invasion of Poland, Holland, Belgium and France, and only became involved in the war over 2 years later when its Pacific fleet was decimated at Pearl Harbour in a Pre emptive strike by the Japanese - a technique the US and the UK are quite current at, dispite refering to others use of such technique as a "day of infamy" My point was not whether politicians should be able to see 15 years into the future, but more that if a country has a policy of fueling conflict against its enemies by using unstable groups - that such groups are likely to remain unstable - and unpredictable. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #57 July 14, 2003 Interesting article on the subject. I still have reservatons, but am not overwhelmingly against it. I think my vote on this issue is a hesitant 'go' but am not firm in this belief. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003740 Company in town kept me from the DZ - except Friday nite for night jumps - all weekend. I'm depressed. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #58 July 14, 2003 QuoteThe US ignored the invasion of Poland, Holland, Belgium and France, and only became involved in the war over 2 years later when its Pacific fleet was decimated at Pearl Harbour in a Pre emptive strike by the Japanese Although I'm not the type to proclaim that the US single handedly saved the world from evil. We were involved before Pearl Harbor albeit not necessarily outright or officially. We had fighter pilots and naval forces in China fighting the Japanese in 1937, in fact it's one of the reasons the Japanese attacked us. We gave 50 destroyers to Britain in 1940 and then enacted the lend/lease act. We also entered a treaty and agreement of war aims with Britain 4 months before Pearl Harbor. And actually our Pacific fleet was not "decimated". It was crippled, but, every single air craft carrier was out of Pearl at the time of the attack. And the Japanese failed to damage any of the repair and maintenance facilities at Pearl which allowed us to recover very quickly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
