ramon 0 #1 July 17, 2003 My rigger just grounded my vector micron made in 2001 (I think it is 2001 and part of 2002, see the gear and rigging section). Local master riggers have been talking to gear manufacturers TODAY and they don't like the "test" on the pins. UUHHHHH!!!!!!! ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 July 17, 2003 All pins? Could you be more specific...b/c I'm going to call my rigger.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 July 17, 2003 Yikes...so ummm, they don't like the test, and the manufacturer has stated not to use before testing, so what's the option? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hottamaly 1 #4 July 17, 2003 The folks and Perris and Elsinore are going to be asked to have a quick test done on their reserve pins before they can board a plane because a bad batch went out and they don't know when. It doesn't have to do with the rig maker, but with the reserve pin maker. I'm all for this, I don't want to do that last pull and have my pin stay put and keep my reserve from coming out. They will be putting a tag on your rig to show it was done and up, up, and away you go. It's MANDATORY at these 2 DZ's and should be for all. Skydiving gave me a reason to live I'm not afraid of what I'll miss when I die...I'm afraid of what I'll miss as I live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 July 17, 2003 Yeah, I know about the reserve pin problem, but I called my manufacture and they said that the pins that they had been supplied with and they had shipped out, had already been taken care of and that my pin was cleared... Are we talking about the JumpShack made pins or the Capewell pins? I know the JumpShack made pins are the ones that caused some recalls in the past couple weeks/months...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laurie 0 #6 July 17, 2003 In regards to Perris it's the Capewell pins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aneblett 0 #7 July 17, 2003 here dave read this if you haven't already. AgeS.E.X. party #2 ..It is far worse to live with fear, than to die confronting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #8 July 17, 2003 Interestingly, the skyhook reserve pin on my rig is an entirely different design, and looks nothing at all like those pins. A rigger friend told me that it was similar to a tandem pin he'd seen years ago. I've emailed RWS to make sure that my pin is good-to-go.7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 July 17, 2003 QuoteMy rigger just grounded my vector micron Get another rigger to look at it. There is no reason to ground a rig for this. The test is easy enough, and if done properly should cause no damage, UNLESS your pin is bad. There is no LEGAL requirement to have this test done. It's a smart idea from a saftey standpoint. DZ's may or may not require that your rig passes this test before they alow you to board their aircraft. It's their prerogative. All ripcord pins from Capewell are suspect as there are no identifying markings on any pins. If you happen to have a Vector with a factory installed RSL, the you're in luck. IMO the first time I've seen an advantage to that system.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeMike 0 #10 July 17, 2003 I got mine done today. It is pretty involved. They put a tag on your cable and write the AD compliance on your pillow if you got one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #11 July 17, 2003 Maybe I should have been more clear. My rigger contacted Relative workshop and rigging inovations, they don't like the test."Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #12 July 17, 2003 so what exactly does this mean? Im gonna go search for the thread but, I mean I know my pin has worked so far everytime Im due for a repack! is there something SPECIFIC they are grounding them for?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 July 17, 2003 QuoteMy rigger contacted Relative workshop and rigging inovations, they don't like the test. I see. I don't like the test either, but I'd like to jump this weekend. So I'll have it done.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #14 July 17, 2003 So is Perris having everyone do this? Or just those who have rigs from 2001+? Does it take very long to have the test done? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 July 17, 2003 Yup everyone AFAIK. I'd say it should take no more than 5 minutes a rig or so.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #16 July 18, 2003 QuoteYup everyone AFAIK. I'd say it should take no more than 5 minutes a rig or so. Thanks JP... Good to have you in SoCal now! :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeMike 0 #17 July 18, 2003 All rigs have to have it at Perris...Since the weather is crappy, the loft did mine today with no wait. They have extras. Plan on this weekend being a zoo though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #18 July 18, 2003 I had both of my Mirages checked ...they are A ok! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #19 July 18, 2003 Well shit. I just checked the ripcord on my '96 Vector 3 and it's a PL-02. The previous owner must have had a cutaway sometime in '02 and chucked the handle (just checked the data card: May 24, '02: A-I-R after use). Fuck. Now I have to get somebody to test this thing before the NSL meet bright and early Saturday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #20 July 18, 2003 Riggers don't like the "quick test" because it bends the pins. They call for a 90degree bend test using 15 & 11 pounds. PPM, Vol. I page 360, sec. 6.15.1.6, Inspection and Testing calls for no more then 8 pounds in a 90 degree bend test. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
