sinker 0 #1 July 18, 2003 how very very sad... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattM 0 #2 July 18, 2003 How many people can that thing hold? Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #3 July 18, 2003 takes off his hat -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #4 July 18, 2003 yes, I believe a moment of silence is in order... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aneblett 0 #5 July 18, 2003 ahem.... could that thing holdS.E.X. party #2 ..It is far worse to live with fear, than to die confronting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #6 July 18, 2003 QuoteHow many people can that thing hold? there was approx 100 pax aboard the supersonic---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #7 July 18, 2003 yeah, but the real unspoken question is, if you took out all the seats, how many jumpers could it hold? "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #8 July 18, 2003 I don't think many more... the seats were pretty small and uncumfortable... and I can't remember if she had a tailgate... but if you're planning to make it the most ultimate jumpship... call air france or british airways... or Virgin Atlantic... Heard that Richard Branson had in mind to purchase a few...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #9 July 18, 2003 Quote yeah, but the real unspoken question is, if you took out all the seats, how many jumpers could it hold hmmm, i would bet around 150. But you would need to do something about that prop/jet blast disentigrating jumpers after exit =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #10 July 18, 2003 Quoteyeah, but the real unspoken question is, if you took out all the seats, how many jumpers could it hold? ...well... 100, but very VERY comfortably. The REAL question to be asked is "What is stall speed for jumprun purposes" -Dave PS: if you think the Concorde's fate is sad, watch or read the "Avro Arrow" story. Canadians designed a mach 2+ fighter interceptor (airframe, engine AND avionics) in the mid 50's but the frady cat 'merican miltary of the time (cold war and nukes doncha know) and the newly installed Conservative government in Canada saw the project scrapped. I think 6 were built and only two ever flew. Chopped to bits, stillborn. PPS: many of the engineers went on to design the Space Shuttle... Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #11 July 18, 2003 QuoteI don't think many more... the seats were pretty small and uncumfortable... and I can't remember if she had a tailgate... but if you're planning to make it the most ultimate jumpship... call air france or british airways... or Virgin Atlantic... Heard that Richard Branson had in mind to purchase a few... There is (was) a rear ramp, kind of like a 727. The Concorde fleet flew more supersonic miles than all others types combined. The only accident was due to hitting trash that dropped off a DC10.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #12 July 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteyeah, but the real unspoken question is, if you took out all the seats, how many jumpers could it hold? ********** did you fly it ???---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dterrick 0 #13 July 18, 2003 No, I was only a flight officer Seriously, apart from the stuff I've on TV, I've never even seen a Concorde in person. For some reason, the bustling metropolis of Winnipeg, Manitoba was not a stop on it's regular route. On the other hand, The Gimli Glider http://www.wadenelson.com/gimli.html had only ONE scheduled stop and it was on runway 32L (where I race cars) .... 32R is our DZ!! -Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lazyfrog 0 #14 July 18, 2003 so, I've never visited it either, but many clients did (i'm a travel agent). To what they sai, food was great, but seats are not very good, very hard, not very reclinable... Like an economy seat, but with nice leather on it. Service on board was really high class though... Shit, why didn't I get on the MF supersonic...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #15 July 18, 2003 i have seen that show a few times, and every time i do it pisses me off to no end. i know we would have ended up selling the technology to our allies, but if they had been allowed to continue, canada would have had air superiority over anyone on the planet, and the engineers would have stayed here and come up with more stuff. frickin' politicians... we've made the same mistakes again though... one gov't (the conservatives) made a contract to buy a bunch of choppers, they get voted out and the liberals promplty cancel the contract and end up paying huge penalties for backing out, then they turn around and award a similar contract to buy choppers. meanwhile, our forces (or was it the coast guard?) are stuck with sea kings that are barely air worthy. oh yeah, and the cast-off subs we bought from the brits. one had a big dent in it and aonother one leaked. the west edmionton mall has a larger operational submarine fleet than the canadian military!"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #16 July 18, 2003 Bah!!! big deal.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laurel 0 #17 July 18, 2003 One small step back for man. One giant leap backwards for mankind...................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sinker 0 #18 July 19, 2003 nicely said laurel. crazyivan, you know what you can do w/ that neon dildo of yours... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #19 July 19, 2003 Quotecrazyivan, you know what you can do w/ that neon dildo of yours... Ok..bend over. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sinker 0 #20 July 19, 2003 DING DING DING!!!! You WIN!!!! How'd you know I wanted a bad anal experience from you??? -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyIvan 0 #21 July 19, 2003 QuoteDING DING DING!!!! You WIN!!!! How'd you know I wanted a bad anal experience from you??? ok, now that's scary. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #22 July 19, 2003 Did you all know that the Concorde suffered some incidents where fragments of a blown tire ripped through the lower and upper wing skin? The crash was caused by an aluminum rub strip left on the runway from a previous plane. That's what such a high stall speed will get you (it doesn't even have flaps). Plus the engines were at a great place to injest tire fragments. After the crash, there was a lot of stuff to be learned by reading the Aviation Week & Space Technology website, one of the only good places to go for quality info on aviation incidents. They were caught in a corner where they could not get more lift without stalling, could not get more speed without going down. I'm sure it would be cool to fly in, but I they were also very fortunate to never suffer a decompression at ~55K feet. You might not just get the bends, you might boil! I would not want to fly in an airplane that old at that altitude. One of the best decisions Boeing ever made was to drop their supersonic transport and make the 747 instead. Kingbunky, nice quote from Douglas Adam's Guide to the Galaxy.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoby 0 #23 July 19, 2003 QuoteChopped to bits, stillborn. I've always found pictures of scrapped planes rather sad. Obsolete technology is always a bit depressing. After all, lots of effort was put into designing, testing, and building that object or vehicle, and now it's just trash. I remember one cover of Air and Space affecting me in a strange way. It was rows of B-52 bombers lined up in the desert. Some were complete and others were reduced to piles of parts. They were the victim of an arms reduction treaty and were being dismantled in such a way that they could be counted by Russian satellites overhead. It was strange, because I should have been (and was) glad to see weapons of war being decommissioned, but yet I was affected by the ignomious end of those valiant warhorses. It was rather a bittersweet photograph for me. As an aside, I prattling on about it at dinner with friends, and it turned out that one of them had actually taken the photo in question! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lizard 0 #24 July 19, 2003 I agree. Its sad to see things like this go. Yes technology continues and things change, but still sad. If old airplanes could talk, think of the stories you would hear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #25 July 19, 2003 EEeeek! "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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dterrick 0 #13 July 18, 2003 No, I was only a flight officer Seriously, apart from the stuff I've on TV, I've never even seen a Concorde in person. For some reason, the bustling metropolis of Winnipeg, Manitoba was not a stop on it's regular route. On the other hand, The Gimli Glider http://www.wadenelson.com/gimli.html had only ONE scheduled stop and it was on runway 32L (where I race cars) .... 32R is our DZ!! -Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #14 July 18, 2003 so, I've never visited it either, but many clients did (i'm a travel agent). To what they sai, food was great, but seats are not very good, very hard, not very reclinable... Like an economy seat, but with nice leather on it. Service on board was really high class though... Shit, why didn't I get on the MF supersonic...---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #15 July 18, 2003 i have seen that show a few times, and every time i do it pisses me off to no end. i know we would have ended up selling the technology to our allies, but if they had been allowed to continue, canada would have had air superiority over anyone on the planet, and the engineers would have stayed here and come up with more stuff. frickin' politicians... we've made the same mistakes again though... one gov't (the conservatives) made a contract to buy a bunch of choppers, they get voted out and the liberals promplty cancel the contract and end up paying huge penalties for backing out, then they turn around and award a similar contract to buy choppers. meanwhile, our forces (or was it the coast guard?) are stuck with sea kings that are barely air worthy. oh yeah, and the cast-off subs we bought from the brits. one had a big dent in it and aonother one leaked. the west edmionton mall has a larger operational submarine fleet than the canadian military!"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #16 July 18, 2003 Bah!!! big deal.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurel 0 #17 July 18, 2003 One small step back for man. One giant leap backwards for mankind...................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #18 July 19, 2003 nicely said laurel. crazyivan, you know what you can do w/ that neon dildo of yours... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #19 July 19, 2003 Quotecrazyivan, you know what you can do w/ that neon dildo of yours... Ok..bend over. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #20 July 19, 2003 DING DING DING!!!! You WIN!!!! How'd you know I wanted a bad anal experience from you??? -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #21 July 19, 2003 QuoteDING DING DING!!!! You WIN!!!! How'd you know I wanted a bad anal experience from you??? ok, now that's scary. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #22 July 19, 2003 Did you all know that the Concorde suffered some incidents where fragments of a blown tire ripped through the lower and upper wing skin? The crash was caused by an aluminum rub strip left on the runway from a previous plane. That's what such a high stall speed will get you (it doesn't even have flaps). Plus the engines were at a great place to injest tire fragments. After the crash, there was a lot of stuff to be learned by reading the Aviation Week & Space Technology website, one of the only good places to go for quality info on aviation incidents. They were caught in a corner where they could not get more lift without stalling, could not get more speed without going down. I'm sure it would be cool to fly in, but I they were also very fortunate to never suffer a decompression at ~55K feet. You might not just get the bends, you might boil! I would not want to fly in an airplane that old at that altitude. One of the best decisions Boeing ever made was to drop their supersonic transport and make the 747 instead. Kingbunky, nice quote from Douglas Adam's Guide to the Galaxy.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #23 July 19, 2003 QuoteChopped to bits, stillborn. I've always found pictures of scrapped planes rather sad. Obsolete technology is always a bit depressing. After all, lots of effort was put into designing, testing, and building that object or vehicle, and now it's just trash. I remember one cover of Air and Space affecting me in a strange way. It was rows of B-52 bombers lined up in the desert. Some were complete and others were reduced to piles of parts. They were the victim of an arms reduction treaty and were being dismantled in such a way that they could be counted by Russian satellites overhead. It was strange, because I should have been (and was) glad to see weapons of war being decommissioned, but yet I was affected by the ignomious end of those valiant warhorses. It was rather a bittersweet photograph for me. As an aside, I prattling on about it at dinner with friends, and it turned out that one of them had actually taken the photo in question! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard 0 #24 July 19, 2003 I agree. Its sad to see things like this go. Yes technology continues and things change, but still sad. If old airplanes could talk, think of the stories you would hear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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