Tonto 1 #1 July 17, 2003 who thinks, Conservatives are Pro gun - but anti abortion. Liberals are pro abortion - but anti gun. Conservatives have the "right to bear Arms" but don't like it when other countries have those rights. Liberals are not always 100% in favour of this right, but can understand why other countries would like it. It's all about timing - I guess. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #2 July 17, 2003 Welcome to POLITICS. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #3 July 17, 2003 Well, I'm a Pro-Gun Pro-Abortion Pro Death Penalty Non-Politically Correct Homo Whats that make me? Liberal, Conservative, or just a blue superhero? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #4 July 17, 2003 This is much stranger: Pro-choice and against the death penalty (yes, I am an oxymoron, since that's my category.) Anti-aborition and for the death penalty. Sure, the unborn child is innocent, but so are some people on death row. And, just because people are for the right to bear arms does not mean they are for the right to kill people There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 July 17, 2003 I'm not qualified to judge - but from where I'm standing, you look like a bluefacedmonster, dispite your name! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #6 July 17, 2003 Not strange at all. I am, Pro choice, Pro the right to bear arms - but think arms should be defined. I don't want the dude in the condo next to me with nukes - there has to be some control. Pro human rights, even for suspects of terrorisim. Pro freedom of religeon, Pro right to choose sexual orientation, Pro Skydiving - even Style and Accuracy. I am anti violence against civilian populace by soldiers during war or peace. Anti death penalty, Anti discrimination on the grounds of colour, sex, age, race, religeon, sexual orientation etc. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 July 17, 2003 pro gun, pro choice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #8 July 17, 2003 QuotePro right to choose sexual orientation Shit! You can choose? Wow thats news to me? Where's that switch that I can flip to make all these damn boobie threads interesting? I've already gawked at too many car wrecks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #9 July 17, 2003 You didn't get a switch? Speak to your mom about that! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #10 July 17, 2003 Politics. Damn. I'd be bad at that. I'm not good at fooling all of the people some of the time - but I can fool some of the people all of the time! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #11 July 17, 2003 "Pro gun, pro choice" That's seeming to be less rare than I suspected. Maybe pro gun people feel the right to protect themselves in several ways. Interesting. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
txblondie 0 #12 July 17, 2003 anti-abortion (although I won't condemn anyone for their own choice) death penalty - tough one...I guess I'm for it, but I still have issues that go deeper than a simple for or against pro right to bear arms - I agree that "arms" should be defined pro freedom of religion - otherwise, it would be like following a cult mindlessly anti-violence - I understand the need for war in certain situations, but I still don't support the idea of war ***************************************** Blondes do have more fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #13 July 17, 2003 Pro-life, anti-death penalty, pro-gun (for sport and self defense purposes). Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #14 July 17, 2003 Whoa! There goes my Texas steriotype! Death penalty... I'm anti as a good member of society, but I can see how I would want to kill someone who killed those I love. I just expect the State to be a little above revenge. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
txblondie 0 #15 July 17, 2003 QuoteWhoa! There goes my Texas steriotype! Death penalty... I'm anti as a good member of society, but I can see how I would want to kill someone who killed those I love. I just expect the State to be a little above revenge. t I'm used to it, I guess...I mean, Texas puts more people to death every year than anywhere else, right? So, our government officials are murdering sons of guns themselves. I hate the idea that an innocent person could be put to death, but I like the idea of getting rid of the trash in our society as well. ***************************************** Blondes do have more fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 July 17, 2003 Quote"Pro gun, pro choice" That's seeming to be less rare than I suspected. Maybe pro gun people feel the right to protect themselves in several ways. Interesting. t I've found that gun rights and abortion are two issues which are pretty much split down the middle and divided pretty equally between both parties. The difference is in the parties' official stance. The people who worry me are those that go along with every single thing a political party says. See my sig for reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #17 July 17, 2003 But how do we define "getting rid of" Surely life without parol would do this? Capital cases that go on appeal for 10 years must cost the taxpayer more than just feeding the dude and making him read bambi again, and again... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #18 July 17, 2003 I know this forum is largely populated by Americans, but am hoping to keep "parties" out of it. The "right - left" line of the political spectrum may be in the middle, but I think on many issues, most people are really close to the middle. Closer than they may suspect, I think. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #19 July 17, 2003 "Pro-life, anti-death penalty" A consistant man. More so in the belief in self defence - a Pro life choice again. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #20 July 17, 2003 QuoteBut how do we define "getting rid of" Surely life without parol would do this? Capital cases that go on appeal for 10 years must cost the taxpayer more than just feeding the dude and making him read bambi again, and again... Not really, because you still have the appeals process that can go all the way to the Supreme Court. So either way you have the court costs. This is one area where I think we should learn from China. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
txblondie 0 #21 July 17, 2003 QuoteBut how do we define "getting rid of" Surely life without parol would do this? Capital cases that go on appeal for 10 years must cost the taxpayer more than just feeding the dude and making him read bambi again, and again... t This is true. Again, another reason I ride the fence a little. I'm sure that being locked in a maximum security prison for the rest of their life is a fitting punishment, and there's very little possibility that they would escape, but I'd just feel safer if they weren't there at all. Look what happens when prisoners escape--remember the "Texas 7"? ***************************************** Blondes do have more fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #22 July 17, 2003 "learn from China?" What do they do? (I don't know much about China other than that they built a railway through Tanzania in the 70's that had the aparthied government very worried...And that there are lots of them..) tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #23 July 17, 2003 "even Style and Accuracy" Heretic!-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #24 July 17, 2003 Hey Tonto.....Having Fun???? Me, I make my choices as I have to and not a moment before. Life has a funny way of throwing curveballs at those who rush up to the plate. (How is that for being accomodating to our American friends). I suppose I am only one thing Anti Hypocrisy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #25 July 17, 2003 "remember the "Texas 7"? " Er, no, I don't. Never made the local paper, I guess. They escaped, and did bad things? Again? That's not nice. What worries me about the death penalty is that I'm a Budhist, and with reincarnation - after a 40 day wait in the garden, they could be back in a few short years, younger and stronger than before, with the same lesson to learn. I prefer the "time trap" of life. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
