Redblue 0 #1 July 20, 2003 On many dropzones, there are relationsships build between skydivers. But what if, a chief instructor with around 5500 jumps, age 40, seduces students of just 18 year old? And because he's a skigod/instructor... all girls are "falling" for this. Is this normal? Or using his possion/power? This happens in the Netherlands Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redblue 0 #2 July 20, 2003 Another thing/pitty, a lot of femal students are not jumping anymore at his dropzone after the relations ship (being dumped). They're all going to other dropzone's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #3 July 20, 2003 depends on what your relationship is with the instructor, imo. If youre the DZO and its hurting your business more than its helping it, fire him. Plain and simple. Give him whatever reason you want to. If youre just his bud and you think its sorta whack, it may be acceptable to ask him why he feels the need to hit on paying customers, and then point out the fact that its hurting the DZ he works for. Or just let the dude get some, whatever. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 July 20, 2003 There's a reason why on a LOT of DZs there are rules in place that prevent instructors from dating students. (Of course if they were dating before the non-instructor became a skydiving student, then that really doesn't apply). Since there really isn't any good outcomes to that scenerio.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 July 20, 2003 One more thing! Dating students as an instructor shows an incredible amount of unprofessionalism!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 July 20, 2003 DAMN! thats all Ill say! that sucks! and VERY UNPROFESSIONAL doesnt she have a father?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #7 July 20, 2003 I think its just that. The father syndrome. Young girls falling for older men because they give them the chance to make love with a male that resembles their father. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzdiva 7 #8 July 20, 2003 Quotedoesn't she have a father She does now!"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #9 July 20, 2003 [QUOTE]doesn't she have a father -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- She does now![/QUOTE] No, I think she now has a "daddy". As in, "WHOSE YOUR DADDY, BITCH!" --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #10 July 20, 2003 Quote "WHOSE YOUR DADDY, !" girl: I DONT KNOWMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzdiva 7 #11 July 20, 2003 Quotewho's your daddy Funny the same thing crossed my mind!"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzdiva 7 #12 July 20, 2003 LMFAO!!"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #13 July 20, 2003 QuoteLMFAO!! WTF??? no spitting? I thought that deserved some kinda regeritationMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzdiva 7 #14 July 20, 2003 QuoteWTF!!! No spitting? Okay a little came out my nose!!"It's not just a daydream if you choose to make it your life..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #15 July 20, 2003 whoa! reminds me of that "filter" song.... "hey man, NICE SHOT!"My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #16 July 20, 2003 But that is why I want a tandem rating! Seriously though, if it harms nobody or the DZ whats the issue? (btw - I know jack, only 3 so far) "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redblue 0 #17 July 20, 2003 That's a good thing that there're a lot of DZ's with those rules. He's a good instructor and his DZ makes a lot of progress, so nobody is saying anything about this. Ever since he's instructor, he has relations with very young students, his social life is on his DZ but for him it's easy to hit on very young girls (mostly 18), unfortunately these girls are so easy to get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #18 July 21, 2003 Quoteage 40, seduces students of just 18 year old? I say fair play to him. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #19 July 21, 2003 Seems to me that his morals allow him to have his fun. Maybe that offends your morals, but I don't think we have a right to judge him. Diversity is the spice of life. Or are you jealous Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #20 July 21, 2003 i agree, IF she wasnt his student...but that seems creepy to me! there is a bond you get with the person who trains you to save your own life. but there should be a certain amount of professionalism there. I say this b/c we have/had an INstructor who does nothing but hit on the girls he trains. in fact many of them have left b/c of it!My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #21 July 21, 2003 That stuff used to be standard operating procedure in the old days. But is the guy there to teach or get laid ? Could be both you say, but is he paying as much attention to his guy students or to the girls he doesn't think are as pretty or as interested in shagging him ? Not hard to see why experienced women jumpers wouldn't hang around. If the students are 18 there's nothing illegal about it, but your DZ has got to be getting a rep for "the place with the horny old coot instructor" (I'm older than him, so I can say that). I hope your DZ is progressive and safe, if anything were to happen to anyone, there's gonna be a lot of questions to answer. It's really not professional. Besides, doesn't Amsterdam have a legal and affordable red light district ? Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redblue 0 #22 July 21, 2003 His DZ and himself has already a bad reputation, but ever since he's there the DZ makes more jumps ever. He's promoting skydiving to a lot of students, but gives ofcourse girls bit more attention. Good tip, he should go to Amsterdam - red light district, maybe than there'll be some experienced femal skydivers left at his DZ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #23 July 21, 2003 mmmm selling the spirit of skydiving out to the soul of money well I guess partying is the skydive spirit too. (my personal philosophy, after seeing OUR guy, is keep it separate!) if she still wants to be with him after she is done with training and shes not trying to get a DISCOUNT then they should hook upMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudOnMyTongue 0 #24 July 21, 2003 One thing that I really really like about my DZ is that no instructors there ever hit on me. I'm not saying that I am a goddess or anything. But I have a job right now where I work will old red neck men who are married and do nothing but hit on me simply because I'm the only girl under 30 thats weights under 200 lbs at my work. I could understand if one student came along and they hooked up with the instructor but if there is more than one a year then I would talk to the instructor. As an aside, a lot of people suggest that he should be fired. No one has suggested telling him not to hit on people anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redblue 0 #25 July 21, 2003 She just got 10 or 20 jumps (static line) so she has a long way to go. Doesn't get any discount but special treatment. She sees him as a skygod! The best of his DZ. He's only using her for sex, she thinks to have some kind of relationship with him, while he's also flirting to other young students. I know that some skydivers or doing that but he is the Chief instructor... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites