Rdutch 0 #1 July 13, 2003 Of course you will have to do this over unpopulated areas. But Paintball under canopy, that would be fun as hell. Two to Four skydivers exit the plane about 15 seconds apart. Then they try to close and shoot the other person, while trying to avoid being shot. Could be fun, definitely dangerous. Someone try it out a few hundred times and let me know how it goes, so then I can try it. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
effinjump 0 #2 July 13, 2003 Can we get demo rigs and canopies for this? wahoo!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #3 July 13, 2003 i can pretty securely say this will probably happen in the near future, since a certain swoopers birthday paintball guns are starting to appear at our DZ... the question is how much damage can you do to your canopies and lines?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #4 July 13, 2003 Nope, not gonna touch this one. Not me! Uh-uh. Not with a ten-foot pole. Or a six-foot Norwegian! Beth, Bernice, Judy, Don, etc. (mainly the Rantoul government types) please note I was not the one to bring this up! Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #5 July 13, 2003 Ray!!! What a good ole fashioned game of catch the hat just doesnt do it for you anymore??? Dont get paint on my canopy!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB99 0 #6 July 13, 2003 Uh ... ever been hit by a paint ball? You know how much they hurt and how fast they go ... now get hit with one while going 50mph at it (or however fast you're going under your canopy). I think it'll really kick your ass if it hit you and put some holes thru your canopy easily ... I wouldn't ever try it. Trailer 11/12 was the best. Thanks for the memories ... you guys rocked! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #7 July 13, 2003 Paintball is soy oil (not chemical) Chinese food is more hazardous to a canopy. Dutch/Hutch? coincidence or not? I'm up here in PA (Maytown S.P.C.) and a Hellfish name Hutch from Chambersburg wanted to do that with me. I know that a paint ball will *NOT* put a hole through an inflated canopy (I have a 220 Traithlon I'm holding on to for accuracy & this) Set a "standard field" fps=300 and no "Full auto" Those under canopy are the safest, those below/ground may not be. good "markers" can go 80-100ft max with accuracy and still break on contact. I have: Shocker w/16" "All American" barrel 13 rounds per second without turbo trigger & no full auto. Flatline barrels carry great distance & accurate but no break speed after 80ft. Set markers to 500fps & paintbals break in the barrel. -Grant_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyguy 0 #8 July 13, 2003 The most dangerous thing I have ever done skydiving is a full blown 1 on 1 dogfight from 13k. Closing speeds of over 100mph, straining to see and get the advantage, about getting my pilot chute torn off. I was so tired by 4k, I didn't know if I had the strength to flair. So... Definately sport death. You would need a bite switch to fire or something, you need both hands to fly. But, at Kapow, you never know. ---------------------------- bzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #9 July 13, 2003 eletronic triggers on all quality markers/paintball guns. bit swith is no prob. steer: left hand-dive loops other options is marker pistols(9 shot rather than 200)_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudOnMyTongue 0 #10 July 13, 2003 This has BAD IDEA written all over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirMail 0 #11 July 13, 2003 QuoteThis has BAD IDEA written all over it. I agree. Kinda like one of those "Here, hold my beer while I....." ideas. Patrick-- It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Postal Rodriguez, Muff 3342 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #12 July 13, 2003 ".68 Cal" is safe.does n't it have a ring of safe family fun?_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #13 July 13, 2003 Quoteeletronic triggers on all quality markers/paintball guns. bit swith is no prob. steer: left hand-dive loops other options is marker pistols(9 shot rather than 200) twin barrel helmet mounts anyone?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #14 July 14, 2003 QuoteNope, not gonna touch this one. Not me! Uh-uh. Not with a ten-foot pole. Or a six-foot Norwegian! Beth, Bernice, Judy, Don, etc. (mainly the Rantoul government types) please note I was not the one to bring this up! JACK, properly noted,you have been SO GOOD in this thread (for a change)skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 July 14, 2003 We were drinking one night (go figgure!) and came up with the even better idea. I mean how do you aim and shoot while still flying your canopy to avoid getting shot yourself? You need a gunner AND a pilot! That's right, just go borrow a pair of your local DZO's $10,000 new Sigma tandem rigs and find yourself a victim, I mean gunner/target/human shield and have fun!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #16 July 14, 2003 you guys should find and read sangiro's canopy dogfighting "essay" it was posted in .rec a while ago (96/97 or so i think) and he has reposted it here once too.... very funny..... i vote for hemet mounted guns....... or the tandem idea.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #17 July 14, 2003 I would actualy pay to see the dumbass who would try this A paintball will explode on your skin and leave a nasty blue/black/purple mark, but it will go straight THROUGH your canopy. Imagine shooting someone from 12K to 3K, and hitting his canopy half of the time. He'll come down with a modified canopy with airvents in the topskin, botton skin, sides, ports...airvents EVERYWHERE.. Yup...the look on his face when he discovers it on the ground after landing will be Priceless.. I can already see the 'priceless' add :)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 July 14, 2003 QuoteDefinately sport death. You would need a bite switch to fire or something, you need both hands to fly. Hey what about some clip on foot extensions for the toggles.. leaves the hands open for the gun.... just swing the leg straps down a little to get to a sit... and attach the extensions around the end of the shoe..... put new meaning into STAND ON IT Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #19 July 14, 2003 In all fact based thought If you've ever touched and dared to even shoot a paintball gun, you know that unless your canopy is mounted on a hard surface and the "marker/gun" is set to OVER 300fps=illegal, that the ball will not break and bounce off. I have worn loose winter clothes and had them bounce off a 15' away. the Mask is the safety factor in all of this that no one has mentioned. fact#2: it will never happen due to falling paintballs, same as "spaceball" rulings._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #20 July 14, 2003 Whenever I think of safety, I try and "work back from the incident." as suggested once from a fellow instructor. So there you are, in the open field, with the cops. Ambulance not there yet - no hurry, flies buzzing at the bits, ants at the picnic, two dudes covered in paint, blood, wrapped in lines, with guns on their heads, holding hook knives... And the cop asks... "So tell me again what they were doing?" tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #21 July 14, 2003 A paintball will not penetrate a canopy. Trust me. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #22 July 14, 2003 It's just that I've seen a canopy get a nice big hole it from a silly (small)water balloon, that was dropped from about 200 ft. The canopy was lying on the floor (grass) so maybe it's the hard surface underneath, but I'd test it on an old canopy before you try it up there.. Never expected a frustrated 'your a pussy' answer for just making a safety point?JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #23 July 14, 2003 Quote: "Never expected a frustrated 'your a pussy' answer for just making a safety point? " I fail to see how my comment "A paintball will not penetrate a canopy." can be taken that way. A punch or kick to the head can kill a person, but will make no mark on a canopy. I've done a lot of Crew. The safety risk here is one of collision or "colateral damage" to those on the ground. When people try and catch stuff, sometimes they do. Play any combat flight sim, and you'll have collisions. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #24 July 14, 2003 I didn't mean your post....never ment to offend you or anyone else for that matter.. I was mentioning the "If you've ever touched and dared to even shoot a paintball gun, you'd know.." one or two posts up. Felt like a bit of a low blow....dunno..maybe it's just me... I know a kick or a blow won't damage a canopy, but a paintball has a higher speed then a foot, and a smaller surface....if small marbles shot away from/with an elastic band can make a clean hole through a piece of thick glas, and (as mentioned before) a small falling water-balloon CAN puncture a parachute (that was lying on the grass). I have no actual info on the force of impact from a paintball, but I would just prefer to test it before anyone tried it for real..(and I know it's not gonna happen, but stil...just 'asuming' something is not always a good idea)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #25 July 14, 2003 "i vote for hemet mounted guns....... " What like a camera with a site or reticule on it? Then you review video gootage to count the hits.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites