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Of course you will have to do this over unpopulated areas. But Paintball under canopy, that would be fun as hell. Two to Four skydivers exit the plane about 15 seconds apart. Then they try to close and shoot the other person, while trying to avoid being shot. Could be fun, definitely dangerous.
Someone try it out a few hundred times and let me know how it goes, so then I can try it.


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i can pretty securely say this will probably happen in the near future, since a certain swoopers birthday paintball guns are starting to appear at our DZ...

the question is how much damage can you do to your canopies and lines?
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Nope, not gonna touch this one. Not me! Uh-uh. Not with a ten-foot pole. Or a six-foot Norwegian!

Beth, Bernice, Judy, Don, etc. (mainly the Rantoul government types) please note I was not the one to bring this up!

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Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them?

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Uh ... ever been hit by a paint ball? You know how much they hurt and how fast they go ... now get hit with one while going 50mph at it (or however fast you're going under your canopy). I think it'll really kick your ass if it hit you and put some holes thru your canopy easily ... I wouldn't ever try it.:S


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Paintball is soy oil (not chemical) Chinese food is more hazardous to a canopy.

Dutch/Hutch?
coincidence or not?
I'm up here in PA (Maytown S.P.C.)
and a Hellfish name Hutch from Chambersburg wanted to do that with me.
I know that a paint ball will *NOT* put a hole through an inflated canopy (I have a 220 Traithlon I'm holding on to for accuracy & this)
Set a "standard field" fps=300 and no "Full auto"
Those under canopy are the safest, those below/ground may not be.
good "markers" can go 80-100ft max with accuracy and still break on contact.
I have: Shocker w/16" "All American" barrel 13 rounds per second without turbo trigger & no full auto.
Flatline barrels carry great distance & accurate but no break speed after 80ft.
Set markers to 500fps & paintbals break in the barrel.
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The most dangerous thing I have ever done skydiving is a full blown 1 on 1 dogfight from 13k.

Closing speeds of over 100mph, straining to see and get the advantage, about getting my pilot chute torn off.

I was so tired by 4k, I didn't know if I had the strength to flair.

So...

Definately sport death. You would need a bite switch to fire or something, you need both hands to fly.

But, at Kapow, you never know.

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eletronic triggers on all quality markers/paintball guns. bit swith is no prob.
steer: left hand-dive loops
other options is marker pistols(9 shot rather than 200)
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eletronic triggers on all quality markers/paintball guns. bit swith is no prob.
steer: left hand-dive loops
other options is marker pistols(9 shot rather than 200)



twin barrel helmet mounts anyone?? B|
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Nope, not gonna touch this one. Not me! Uh-uh. Not with a ten-foot pole. Or a six-foot Norwegian!

Beth, Bernice, Judy, Don, etc. (mainly the Rantoul government types) please note I was not the one to bring this up!



JACK, properly noted,you have been SO GOOD in this thread (for a change)
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We were drinking one night (go figgure!) and came up with the even better idea. I mean how do you aim and shoot while still flying your canopy to avoid getting shot yourself?

You need a gunner AND a pilot!

That's right, just go borrow a pair of your local DZO's $10,000 new Sigma tandem rigs and find yourself a victim, I mean gunner/target/human shield and have fun!
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you guys should find and read sangiro's canopy dogfighting "essay" it was posted in .rec a while ago (96/97 or so i think) and he has reposted it here once too.... very funny.....

i vote for hemet mounted guns....... or the tandem idea....

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I would actualy pay to see the dumbass who would try this :ph34r:
A paintball will explode on your skin and leave a nasty blue/black/purple mark, but it will go straight THROUGH your canopy.

Imagine shooting someone from 12K to 3K, and hitting his canopy half of the time.
He'll come down with a modified canopy with airvents in the topskin, botton skin, sides, ports...airvents EVERYWHERE..

Yup...the look on his face when he discovers it on the ground after landing will be Priceless..

I can already see the 'priceless' add :)
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Definately sport death. You would need a bite switch to fire or something, you need both hands to fly.



Hey what about some clip on foot extensions for the toggles.. leaves the hands open for the gun.... just swing the leg straps down a little to get to a sit... and attach the extensions around the end of the shoe..... put new meaning into STAND ON IT

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In all fact based thought
If you've ever touched and dared to even shoot a paintball gun, you know that unless your canopy is mounted on a hard surface and the "marker/gun" is set to OVER 300fps=illegal, that the ball will not break and bounce off.
I have worn loose winter clothes and had them bounce off a 15' away.
the Mask is the safety factor in all of this that no one has mentioned.
fact#2: it will never happen due to falling paintballs, same as "spaceball" rulings.
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Whenever I think of safety, I try and "work back from the incident." as suggested once from a fellow instructor.

So there you are, in the open field, with the cops. :(

Ambulance not there yet - no hurry, flies buzzing at the bits, ants at the picnic, two dudes covered in paint, blood, wrapped in lines, with guns on their heads, holding hook knives...:S

And the cop asks... "So tell me again what they were doing?":$

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It's just that I've seen a canopy get a nice big hole it from a silly (small)water balloon, that was dropped from about 200 ft. The canopy was lying on the floor (grass) so maybe it's the hard surface underneath, but I'd test it on an old canopy before you try it up there..:P

Never expected a frustrated 'your a pussy' answer for just making a safety point?
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Quote: "Never expected a frustrated 'your a pussy' answer for just making a safety point? "

I fail to see how my comment "A paintball will not penetrate a canopy." can be taken that way.

A punch or kick to the head can kill a person, but will make no mark on a canopy. I've done a lot of Crew.

The safety risk here is one of collision or "colateral damage" to those on the ground. When people try and catch stuff, sometimes they do. Play any combat flight sim, and you'll have collisions.

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I didn't mean your post....never ment to offend you or anyone else for that matter..


I was mentioning the "If you've ever touched and dared to even shoot a paintball gun, you'd know.." one or two posts up. Felt like a bit of a low blow....dunno..maybe it's just me...

I know a kick or a blow won't damage a canopy, but a paintball has a higher speed then a foot, and a smaller surface....if small marbles shot away from/with an elastic band can make a clean hole through a piece of thick glas, and (as mentioned before) a small falling water-balloon CAN puncture a parachute (that was lying on the grass).
I have no actual info on the force of impact from a paintball, but I would just prefer to test it before anyone tried it for real..(and I know it's not gonna happen, but stil...just 'asuming' something is not always a good idea)
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"i vote for hemet mounted guns....... "

What like a camera with a site or reticule on it?
Then you review video gootage to count the hits.
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