quade 4 #26 July 18, 2003 QuoteI said if a person cheats on there wife or husband they will cheat me or my company. Just out of further curiousity . . . do you actually ask them in an employment interview?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #27 July 18, 2003 Michael Jordan is a loser. That will be a good one when his kids get older, so dad is that one of the ladies you had sex with when you played basketball, why me and mom were at home? How much did you pay her off to keep her mouth shut? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #28 July 18, 2003 Spencer Tracy? John F. Kennedy?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #29 July 18, 2003 Just out of further curiousity . . . do you actually ask them in an employment interview? *** Nope I do not ask that in an interview. You would be amazed what people tell you when doing a reference check. I have been in my business for a number of years and I am very selective on who works for my company. I hire a lot of people on a contract to hire basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #30 July 18, 2003 Spencer Tracy? John F. Kennedy? *** Yep. Losers for cheating on there wifes. What is your point. I feel if someone does not want to be married get a dam divorce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #31 July 18, 2003 QuoteWell if he did this i hope they throw the book at him. Getting sick of celbs thinking they are above the law Cool , a skydiver that has a rational thought process . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #32 July 18, 2003 I agree with you Paul. I think cheating on your spouse is wrong but who am I to judge someone else for it. What are the circumstances that lead up to it? There is a reason for everything. You or I might or might not agree with it, but there is usually a reason for the actions. Look at the guy he is rich, good looking and famous and very young. I think he was to young to get married in the first place. He has the whole world in front of him and he settled already! That marriage is doomed form the start. As far as being guilty or not, Who knows? This will be settled out of court for a high dollar amount more then likley. If Kobe is guilty of sexual assault then he will pay the price, if he is inoccent he will still pay a price becuase that girl said he did something and that is what people will remember. "Kobe Bryant? Didn't he rape someone or something?" How many times will we hear that? I think cases like this should be kept out of the public until it is over. Then if the person accused is not gulity they can keep their good name. If they are found guilty then they deserve to be ashamed. I think this is a case of a young women who got what she wanted. Sex with a superstar and now she is going after his money plane and simple! I might be wrong! But, what was she doing in his room? I have been to a lot of hotels and it's not very often that you get the desk clerk to come up to your room. If you need something they send a worker up. If he had just had surgery I bet he wasn't able to force himself on here. Shit all she would have had to do was kick the guy in the knee. I bet he would have stopped whatever he was doing at that point. Think about it folks. This women is going for the gold plan and simple. Once again I may be wrong but I doubt it. If it was just plain adultery then God will get him later for it right? How are you or I to judge? As far as Slick Willy goes. I was mad at him for lying about it. Not the fact that he did it. It was that he actually thought that he couldget away with the lie. That Americans are that stupid. I felt insulted. If he had told the truth then it wouldn't have gone as far is it did I bet.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #33 July 18, 2003 As far as Slick Willy goes. I was mad at him for lying about it. Not the fact that he did it. It was that he actually thought that he couldget away with the lie. That Americans are that stupid. I felt insulted. If he had told the truth then it wouldn't have gone as far is it did I bet. *** Yes he did lie and tried to pull a fast one. Same thing with Martha Stewart. She is going down for that fact she lied. Not that she had some insider trading action going on. Hell that would of just been a fine but the dumbass lied. She will be going to jail you can count on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #34 July 18, 2003 QuoteAnd what if it's just a gold-digger that figured out after she had sex with him that she could make a few million out of it? I have money and I have sex with women that I just met all the time at local resorts and no they are not hookers . I have never been accused of raping one . I have never paid one off so she would go away either . These so called sports heroes think they are above the law . The law does not apply to them . They rape , rob , deal drugs , assault people in bars and have little fear of being prosecuted for their crimes . It's good that they are getting what they have deserved for so long . These guys should hold themselves to a higher standard if they want to be in the publics eyes . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #35 July 18, 2003 CNN) -- This is the text of a statement released on behalf of Kobe Bryant through his attorneys, Harold Haddon and Pamela Robillard Mackey, and his agent Rob Pelinka: "I am innocent of the charges filed today. I did not assault the woman who is accusing me. "I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. "Nothing that happened June 30th was against the will of the woman who now falsely accuses me. "These false allegations have hurt my family. I will fight against these allegations with all my strength. My wife is the strongest person I know. She is willing to stand by me despite my mistake. That means everything to me. "I have so much to live for. And by that I do not mean the contracts, or the money, or the fame. I mean my family. I will fight for them. "I appreciate all those who have supported me. Thank you for believing in me. My family and I are going to need your support and prayers now more than ever." *** This is Kobes statement. Yes he is Scum to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #36 July 18, 2003 These so called sports heroes think they are above the law. The law does not apply to them. They rape, rob, deal drugs, assault people in bars and have little fear of being prosecuted for their crimes. It's good that they are getting what they have deserved for so long. These guys should hold themselves to a higher standard if they want to be in the publics eyes. *** About time an intelligent comment. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #37 July 18, 2003 QuoteWhat is your point. My point. Don't be so judgmental. If something doesn't involve you, then it's really none of your business. Back to Kobe on this one. If in fact, he's actually committed a crime, sexual assault, then yes, it's the business of the government to deal with it. However, if this is simply the post-coitus disillusionment of some teenager or even worse the gold-digging of some calculating person, then it's none of our business and should never have been made public. People talk about how heroes have let us down, but it's really our insatiable thirst to hold them up to some moral standard that should never have existed to begin with and our glee at watching them knocked back down. Schadenfreude, it's a bad thing.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #38 July 18, 2003 You may have some money but I bet you don't have Kobe money. Unless you are egotistical(sp) and go around telling these women that you have money, then why would they go after it? Some people see a star like Kobe and the cash register starts ringing in their heads. I agree that some stars think they are above the law. But when has Kobe ever acted like that in the past? Where is his track record for being an ass? Where have you heard or seen anything negative about him until this whole thing started? Let the court of law decide if he is guilty or not. What if the shoe was on the other foot. You say you have a lot of money and sleeop with women you just met all the time (wear a rubber buddie) what if one of them goes after your cash one day and everyone sees it on the news and starts judging you right away. " I hate those guys with a lot of money they think they can get away with anything!" What if you where inoccent and you couldn't get a job after because even though found not guilty people thought you got away with it because of your money and hired a good lawyer?Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #39 July 18, 2003 "I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. Quote This is from Kobe himself. Now in my eyes he is a cheat. Excusses stink. What a bunch of crap. Everyone is accountable for the decissions they make in life. *** My point. Don't be so judgmental. If something doesn't involve you, then it's really none of your business. I can judge who ever i please and make my decissions on the facts as they are presented. So if the guy next door to me is beating his wife or kids i should do nothing because it is none of my business? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #40 July 19, 2003 QuoteSo if the guy next door to me is beating his wife or kids i should do nothing because it is none of my business? And that would be physical assault and actually agaisnt the law. Yes, you'd be justified in getting involved by possibly calling the police or taking personal action to stop the assault. However, if you had a simple verbal argument with your wife, would you want your neighbor calling the police on you? Grey area to be sure, but I'm thinking not.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #41 July 19, 2003 Money is a tool , it gets you what you want and sometimes without paying for it . Do I use money to my advantage to get what I want or need , you bet I do . I take the risk just like he does but I do know the meaning of the word NO . These guys are used to getting what they want all the time . As far as what he has done in the past he most likely did a good job of hiding it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #42 July 19, 2003 However, if you had a simple verbal argument with your wife, would you want your neighbor calling the police on you? *** Well I will be dammed, we agree on something. I just have no respect for a cheat. Plain and simple. *** However, if you had a simple verbal argument with your wife, would you want your neighbor calling the police on you? *** What would they tell the cops; umm my neighbors are having a disagreement. That would be funny then I could tell the cops to go piss off and get his sorry ass off my property. I don’t like cops, unless they skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #43 July 19, 2003 Quote The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such. What do you say about her?" This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." And once more he bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the eldest, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus looked up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again." (John 8:3-11) I wonder what He wrote in the sand?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumprunner 0 #44 July 19, 2003 The best thing he could have done was to not have gotten himself in that kind of situation in the first place. Uhm, now where have I heard that before??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunman 0 #45 July 19, 2003 QuoteThis is Kobes statement. Yes he is Scum to me. If he's guilty, yes, but what if he's not? What right do you have to call somebody else scum when the only thing that you know about him is that he cheated on his wife once. If I knew all the horrible things you've ever done, then you might appear to be scum as well, even though the good you have done might far outweight the bad. Hell, I'd hate to have every bad thing I've done splattered all over the front pages, because then I'd look like a total dick. I'm not blameless, so I won't be casting any stones. Edited to add: You might be right, he might be scum. But I don't have enough information to make that assessment, and I never will because I don't know the man personally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #46 July 19, 2003 QuoteThe problem I have with this one is that it's going to come down to a he said / she said situation -- unless there is some sort of evidence we're unaware of at this point. If it were going to come down to nothing but he said/she said, the DA wouldn't bother pressing charges. There almost certainly has to be harder evidence revealed at some point in the case. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #47 July 19, 2003 in reply to you all....your spending too much time following the life of another man....for gods sake he throws a ball through a hoop for a living...now thats a loser in my opinion....i mean...do something useful. oh, yeah, sorry in advance for pissing off you sport fans...really, watching is not my thing...doing is. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #48 July 19, 2003 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such. What do you say about her?" This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." And once more he bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the eldest, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus looked up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again." (John 8:3-11)*** That is great if you believe in the bible. I feel no need to go to a brick building on Sunday and pray or believe what some people wrote in a book. I do have a spiritual contact with something and pray every day and night to something but that is another discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #49 July 19, 2003 If he's guilty, yes, but what if he's not? What right do you have to call somebody else scum when the only thing that you know about him is that he cheated on his wife once. If I knew all the horrible things you've ever done, then you might appear to be scum as well, even though the good you have done might far outweight the bad. Hell, I'd hate to have every bad thing I've done splattered all over the front pages, because then I'd look like a total dick. I'm not blameless, so I won't be casting any stones.*** I can call him scum any day and time. Kobe stated he cheated on his wife. For that i feel he is scum. Anyone who cheats on there wife is scum in my book. that is the topic here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #50 July 19, 2003 QuoteIf it were going to come down to nothing but he said/she said, the DA wouldn't bother pressing charges. Do you really think that's how the justice system works?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites