PhillyKev 0 #226 June 27, 2003 Quoteummm john wayne gacy Ummm..that's an example, not a correlation. Look up the statistics, the majority of rapes are heterosexual. And the vast majority of gays do no rape. In fact, there's a higher percentage of heteros that rape than homos. So if you want to use rape as justification, than you would have to say that it would be better if more people were gay, because then there would be less rape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #227 June 27, 2003 We are talking about raping children. Please provid me with the info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #228 June 27, 2003 QuoteDo i care when some gay man takes a kid and has his way with him i do. So... you wouldn't care if some straight man takes a little girl and has his way with her?!? Just so I understand what you're trying to say. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #229 June 27, 2003 Please obey the forum rules. Or don't. Because frankly I would enjoy watching you get forked. Quote The rules of the Dropzone Forums are pretty simple. There's not many of them, but they'll be enforced. The rules are: 1) No personal attacks. None. 2) No jokes or references to paedophilia. None. 3) No advertising 4) Stick to the topics in the topical forums A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #230 June 27, 2003 Ok all homos dont rape children. here are some facts for you. "Rapes of Children Fueling Spread of AIDS in Africa" Minneapolis Star Tribune Online (08/23/98) An increase in rapes of young African girls--sometimes by family members--is leading to an increase in the number of HIV-infected children. According to police, court officials, social workers, and women's rights activists, the increased violence against the children is becoming a significant reason for the increase of the disease in children. A United Nations report last year said that sexual abuse was also contributing to the rate of runaways, which may expose children to the commercial sex trade and other risks. Some men believe that sex with virgins can bring magical powers and possibly cure AIDS, while some traditional herbal or spiritual practitioners are even prescribing the action for infected patients. Many of the rapists are left without punishment due to a reluctance to address or confront sexual taboos. Some of the families receive payment by the rapists. Furthermore, many of the children who become infected never realize that they have contracted HIV since testing is not common. In response to the problem, some are taking action; the Zimbabwe National Traditional Healers Association has been holding workshops to improve education about AIDS and to clarify treatment misconceptions. Additionally, the group--which has 50,000 members--is distributing a brochure which states that treatments involving sex with children are illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #231 June 27, 2003 ***So... you wouldn't care if some straight man takes a little girl and has his way with her?!? Yes i would ,would you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #232 June 27, 2003 QuoteYes, Jesus said Love your brother...he did not say marry him and commit sodomy, an indecent and immoral practice that God has clearly stated is against His Divine will. I am losing respect for you by the minute. Under the definition of SODOMY... you are (yes you) most likely guilty... and therefore a hypocrite. Get some facts straight for yourself.. rather than ASS UMING what GOD is or is not going to do about two men who want to do in the privacy of their homes.... oh and by the way the sodomy law as applied......pertains to just about EVERYTHING other than "missionary" sex. In your mind its wrong for two men to have anal sex... yet it seems a HELL of a lot of men have no problem wanting or trying anal sex at some point with thier GF or wives....but I guess GOD is ok with that. I would think if in any semblance of analytical thought modern people would question who the hell ACTUALLY wrote down all the things GOD has supposed to have said to them while they were out tending sheep 3000 years ago... huhuhuhuhuhh she said sheep..... And I can assure you.. a 20 megaton thermonuclear weapon will NOT fit in a backpack. Once upon a time I lived in a barracks just a couple hunderd yards away from the BIGGEST thermonuclear weapons we had. And they made me a disaster preparedness NCO for my flight. Some stats for a 20MT device (in kilometers for the Canadian reader) 20 Mt 1.076 Crater Diameter 2.322 Fireball diameter 7.466 Radius of total destruction 11.583 Heavy Damage Radius 16.547 Moderate Damage Radius 20.684 Light Damage Radius Firestorms do not raise winds this high..... Firestorm The firestorm is a mass fire that burns intensely in one area. As the many smaller fires burn, they cause air to be pulled into the area, and smoke and superhot gases then escape upward. Once this airflow pattern begins, it feeds on itself, creating a sort of a chimney effect. Once the phenomenon is fully developed the air flows into the area at between 80 and 115 kilometers per hour. Temperatures reach as high as 1000 to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, so even things that aren't actually touched by flames are consumed and destroyed. Unlike the conflagration, a firestorm doesn't travel; it moves little, if at all, due the strong winds blowing in from all sides. But this is not going to happen by any hand of god... I would think the terrorists might get ahold of a small atomic.. not thermonulear device...but it will not be inspired by god.. I think there are other forces here than the hand of GOD..... Since most of the current group of terrorists are being spawned in Islamic countries why has not GOD/ALLAH stepped in and NUKED all of them already. Seems to me there is a different attitude in many Islamic countries about relationships men have...with one another I could care less what two people... same sex or hetero do in the privacy of their bedroom. Only the hypocritical control freaks really care. Shame on you all of you who are haters.... haters are haters and GOD will deal with you harshly..... as Christ said... judge not lest ye be judged. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #233 June 27, 2003 I am actually seething right now in anger and I am not an angry person. Do you know how many young girls are molested by their fathers????? Not even their stepfathers but their biological fathers. Sexual orientation has absolutely NOTHING to do with a child's safety Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #234 June 27, 2003 Thank you!!!!!! Applause applause..Very well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #235 June 27, 2003 Quote most of what gets posted here is for our amusement only. of course it would help if the troll could keep a consistent argument together, but.... ah well..some targets are just too easy...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #236 June 27, 2003 QuoteAnyone ever seen American Beauty? The homophobe father that turns out to be gay comes to mind. Yup that thought is coing to mind....seems to me the WORST homophobes usually not only hate gays.. but women and ...themselves.. afraid of what they themselves are afraid they are. Self loathing has caused so much human suffering. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #237 June 27, 2003 I am actually seething right now in anger and I am not an angry person. Do you know how many young girls are molested by their fathers????? Not even their stepfathers but their biological fathers. Sexual orientation has absolutely NOTHING to do with a child's safety *** You are 100% correct and they should all be hung out to dry. But that is not the topic. Yes i lived with a lady who was molested by her fater. Messed her and the family up big time. I got put in jail for 5 day because i told him to stay away from her{she was 32} and still messing with her head, i threated to kill him and i would of done it in a new york minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #238 June 27, 2003 Peace and love to all...I'm outta here for awhile taking a very deep breath..(thanks you know who ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #239 June 27, 2003 >a 20 megaton thermonuclear weapon will NOT fit in a backpack. Yeah, I was going to post that but I figured it was pointless. I think some people have seen too many James Bond movies. >I would think the terrorists might get ahold of a small atomic.. > not thermonulear device...but it will not be inspired by god.. I'm actually more worried about a dirty bomb. Much, much easier to build and transport, but would cause as much panic as a small nuclear device - and terrorists are all about panic and terror. And it will be built by men, not by god. Sadly it will probably be used in his name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #240 June 27, 2003 QuoteNow with that said, I don't go to church anymore and have pretty much sworn off churches (although I'm still a very spiritual person). I grew up in parochial schools and in the church choir with a mother who was a sunday school teacher.... but when the PASTOR.... who was driving around in a brand new Cadillac, while we were driving to church in a 11 year old Chevy had the audacity to send a letter to her stating that he had notoiced a drop in the levels of her commitment to the church by a drop in her donations... I finally realized what organized religion was all about. Perhaps L. Ron Hubbard had it right all along...religion is the best scam going. I am not enough of a hypocrite to screw people over all week long and then go to church on a sunday morning to ask for absolution of my sins. I prefer to avoid the sins in the first place. Moreso I prefer to avoid being a hypocrite and maintain my spiritual being in a state that makes a difference here on this plane of existence and hopefully on the next as well. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #241 June 27, 2003 QuoteQuoteAnyone ever seen American Beauty? The homophobe father that turns out to be gay comes to mind. Yup that thought is coing to mind....seems to me the WORST homophobes usually not only hate gays.. but women and ...themselves.. afraid of what they themselves are afraid they are. Self loathing has caused so much human suffering. completely uninteresting side note: they actuall developed some 'back story' for some of the characters in AB.. the homophobe father was actually arc'd out as a former homo whos lover was killed in vietnam, which then caused a psychological 'backlash' and retreats fully into the hardcore marine structure and disassosiated with all of his former behavior.. when he retires and is 'released' from the rigid structure of the military, finds himself lacking direction in an unfamiliar environment, and then believes that his son is homosexual, his structure falls apart and he loses himself again....lots of interesting subtext etc in that movie... back to your regularly scheduled troll baiting..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #242 June 27, 2003 Well, I am backing away slowly from this thread, I don't believe we are dealing with someone other than a religious fanatic. Reminds me of those Al Quida people. ~Chachi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #243 June 27, 2003 QuoteWell if you want to get to the dam facts about men on men and the whole "gay ass issue" Most people that contract or spread AIDS are iv drug users, homos, and hookers. Dont know to many people that get aids from their wife do you? The overwhelming majority of people worldwide who have HIV or are dying of aids are heterosexual... Look for FACTS about aids on the web... oh and please bypass Pat Robertsons website or others with the same agenda for your FACTS. Try the WHO or CDC some people who have a little bit of knowledge about ACTUAL rates worldwide. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #244 June 27, 2003 Great get the facts on where it was started from; homos, iv drug users, hookers, blood transfusions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #245 June 27, 2003 lol..you need to brush up on your definitions..its not very clear that you understand what a 'fact' is...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #246 June 27, 2003 Quotelol..you need to brush up on your definitions..its not very clear that you understand what a 'fact' is... Oh I wanna play.... A fact is... a) what your parents told you b) what your friends told you c) whatever you can bs at the time to "explain" things d) Something that can be backed by reliable sourcesThere's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #247 June 27, 2003 DUDE that was applicable to 1983....last time I checked.. it was 2003..... I was not jumping out of airplanes in 1983... my son was more important as was my education.... My son is grown and to my utter chagrin is just as boring as his other biological parent....and I tried so so hard to make him not boring.... but at least I have redeemed myself and started jumping again after 22 years. And if he ever decided to tell us he was gay I would love him none the less... but at least he would be less boring. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splittail1 0 #248 June 27, 2003 After reading some of what you have said, I feel I have to post my favorite forward cause it uses sarcasm to point out how ridiculous it sounds to use the bible to argue against homosexuality. ... Background: Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that as an observant orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in any circumstance. Dear Dr. Laura: Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them. a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself? f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die? i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean. May I still play football if I wear gloves? j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. Your devoted disciple and adoring fan ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #249 June 27, 2003 check out this link then if you are all so dam smart http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1102.pdf http://www.hivpositive.com/f-HIVyou/CDCupdates/CDC-StatsMenu.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #250 June 27, 2003 EGAD.. its 12:30 .. the sun is out... in Seattle and the DZ is open.....I need to go worship GOD in my own way...I do it every time I jump I look out of the airplane and just adore the wonders of creation as I am flying to altitude!!!!! Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
