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[Yoda voice] Mmmmm....clever you are!...hmmf. [/Yoda voice]
Yes, well, although not spelled correctly, my middle name IS Leah; so I feel as though it's my duty to understand such things...and of course, to never turn to the Dark Side!
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Zenister 0
QuoteThe movie is FICTION.
yup
bad fiction.
please explain how a car turns its own steering wheel?
the more silly they get to make a 'cool shot' the more they lose the 'suspension of disbelief' that is fundamental to any good fiction.
No matter what the genre, you have to set up the 'rules' of the world in which you are creating. Majic, Force, warp drive, time travel etc... but when you then repeated violate those rules (in most cases for a cool stunt) you are demostrating poor writing skills and bad directing.
did you read the label on the drug he took? amazing how the affects 'vanish' instantly..
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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Quotemy middle name IS Leah;
Oh gosh...I think I'm in love
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Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.
Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.
QuoteQuoteThe movie is FICTION.
yup
bad fiction.
please explain how a car turns its own steering wheel?
the more silly they get to make a 'cool shot' the more they lose the 'suspension of disbelief' that is fundamental to any good fiction.
No matter what the genre, you have to set up the 'rules' of the world in which you are creating. Majic, Force, warp drive, time travel etc... but when you then repeated violate those rules (in most cases for a cool stunt) you are demostrating poor writing skills and bad directing.
did you read the label on the drug he took? amazing how the affects 'vanish' instantly..
Okay, so the effects of the drugs wearing off I'll concede to...that was extremely far-fetched. But the cars did NOT turn their own steering wheels. The terminate-her tapped into the police system (because remember, she can control things like Skynet can) and SHE began to control the other cars through her "advanced technology". I'm guessing you weren't really a fan of the first two movies, either, because they have been working toward that ability from the beginning, when they first talked about Skynet taking over the world. If Skynet didn't have the capability to control the machines, how were the machines going to fight a war against humans?
Maybe it is a radical plot from the beginning, but it's entertaining, and when you put it all together, it makes sense.
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Blondes do have more fun!
QuoteQuotemy middle name IS Leah;
Oh gosh...I think I'm in love
Awww, how sweet!
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Blondes do have more fun!
bigben 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteThe movie is FICTION.
yup
bad fiction.
please explain how a car turns its own steering wheel?
the more silly they get to make a 'cool shot' the more they lose the 'suspension of disbelief' that is fundamental to any good fiction.
No matter what the genre, you have to set up the 'rules' of the world in which you are creating. Majic, Force, warp drive, time travel etc... but when you then repeated violate those rules (in most cases for a cool stunt) you are demostrating poor writing skills and bad directing.
did you read the label on the drug he took? amazing how the affects 'vanish' instantly..
Okay, so the effects of the drugs wearing off I'll concede to...that was extremely far-fetched. But the cars did NOT turn their own steering wheels. The terminate-her tapped into the police system (because remember, she can control things like Skynet can) and SHE began to control the other cars through her "advanced technology". I'm guessing you weren't really a fan of the first two movies, either, because they have been working toward that ability from the beginning, when they first talked about Skynet taking over the world. If Skynet didn't have the capability to control the machines, how were the machines going to fight a war against humans?
Maybe it is a radical plot from the beginning, but it's entertaining, and when you put it all together, it makes sense.
She can't turn the steering wheel, since she's not telekinetic. Steering wheels require force to operate, they have no electronic parts.
edited to add: I couldn't suspend disbelief enough to believe she was telekinetic.
-Ben
QuoteMaybe it is a radical plot from the beginning, but it's entertaining, and when you put it all together, it makes sense.
Radical? be careful... The plot is based on the very real, but future possibility that the machines we build will one day become self aware and take over.
Zenister 0
if you'll notice the other machines were terminators (T-X activated them), and i have no problem with another machine assuming control over any device that has automated mechanical assists. Lots of equipment isnt really controlled by the physical motion the operator gives, but instead but the system built to relay the commands from the box the human is using, and you could simply bypass the box and give the commands directly to the machine (in aircraft this is "fly by wire") Many assembly lines etc work like this. What skynet did was take control over already very automated military command system and start a nuclear war..
there is however still no way that a car can turn its own steering wheel, no matter how many commands are given to it by a CPU being controlled.. the 'nano tech' excuse used by arnold doesnt fly..you still have to generate the physical force to turn the steering wheel..
also how (since there are no visual sensors on any of the cars she was 'controlling') did she drive them when she was out of line of sight?? (which she was for quite a bit of that chase scene)
the first movies were pretty careful not to reach to far into never never land for this one they threw the verisimilitude that made the first two great... right out the window in the name of a few flashy stunts...
there is however still no way that a car can turn its own steering wheel, no matter how many commands are given to it by a CPU being controlled.. the 'nano tech' excuse used by arnold doesnt fly..you still have to generate the physical force to turn the steering wheel..
also how (since there are no visual sensors on any of the cars she was 'controlling') did she drive them when she was out of line of sight??
(which she was for quite a bit of that chase scene)
the first movies were pretty careful not to reach to far into never never land for this one they threw the verisimilitude that made the first two great... right out the window in the name of a few flashy stunts...
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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Shotgun 1
QuoteThe only problem I saw was that the action scenes, although filled with great special effects and generally a lot of fun to watch, were dragged on too long, so that by the middle of each one, I was yawning and wishing for the next scene.
Yeah, I noticed a couple of the action scenes were pretty long - but I thought they were funny... It almost seemed like they were being "tongue in cheek", like "How ridiculously long and how much damage can we actually do in one scene?" Like that one scene where they destroyed car after car after car after.... I was almost in tears laughing at that one.
She can't turn the steering wheel, since she's not telekinetic. Steering wheels require force to operate, they have no electronic parts.
edited to add: I couldn't suspend disbelief enough to believe she was telekinetic.
-Ben
She's a machine; of course she's not telekinetic. However, you must have missed the part where she drilled into the internal workings of the police car down into the computer system that controls the car. At that point, taking into account that she has such advanced technology (after all, she later rewired Ah-nold), she could have used that to control the steering mechanism, as well as link it to all the other cars, enabling her to steer them as well.
Is that a realistic thing? No, and I admit that I like realistic movies as well. However, sometimes the point of the movie is just to escape from reality and enjoy fantasy. That's what it is, sci-fi fantasy, which means it really has VERY little basis in any reality, besides the fact that it takes place on earth.
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QuoteShe can't turn the steering wheel, since she's not telekinetic. Steering wheels require force to operate, they have no electronic parts.
edited to add: I couldn't suspend disbelief enough to believe she was telekinetic.
The steering wheels turn by themselves on the cars that GM is developing to drive themselves based on sensors implanted in the roads. All you need is some type of wireless/satellite network connections (similar to OnStar) for a central computer to locate a specific vehicle take over... and steer. Its not that far fetched, and will be possible in the near future. Can't you just wait until the police actually "help" you pull over? no more high speed chases.
Shotgun 1
QuoteShe can't turn the steering wheel, since she's not telekinetic. Steering wheels require force to operate, they have no electronic parts.
Yeah, I'll agree that part didn't make too much sense (as well as a few other small things)... but it was such a small part of the movie that it didn't really bother me. (I haven't seen too many sci-fi or action movies that were 100% believable
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QuoteI haven't seen too many sci-fi or action movies that were 100% believable
If they were believeable, they wouldn't be SCI-FI
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Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.
Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.
[Yoda voice] Mmmmm....clever you are!...hmmf. [/Yoda voice]
Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.
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