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Actually sinker, even has much as i disagree with you on certain things, I really respect your opinion.



That's funny because Sinker's posts repulsed me and made me seriously loose respect for him. I was disgusted by Sinker's stubborn arrogance and condescending tone towards anyone who disagreed with his viewpoints. His personal attacks towards Zenister, whom I thanked in a PM for not stooping to Sinker's level, were appalling. Zenister may have a harsh way of stating both the facts and his beliefs, but, at least, he definitely stayed on topic.

Facts are one thing, and personal belief another. Some people need to do more updated, impartial, medical research on topics before trying to ram their beliefs down everyone's throats.

Furthermore, the tone of the heated pro-choice/pro-life topic in the Women's Forum became ugly. Women's comments were being ignored by the men, who took over this forum. I thought that the most rational posts/beliefs were made by Wendy, whom we can all agree is a well-educated, intelligent person.



Well, when i was referring to Sinker, I was not just referring the the Pro-choice/Pro-Life topic, but what I have seen him do in other threads.

I guess maybe he should become a stripper since you are going to hit on the intelligence thing again.

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my .02



bawaaahaaaa... there wasnt much change left out of the Ben Franklin you put in there....;)



true dat..

good thing philosophical change doesnt affect my jump funds ;)
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Facts are one thing, and personal belief another. Some people need to do more updated, impartial,
medical research on topics before trying to ram their beliefs down everyone's throats. ***

wow... that statement assumes sooo much! please, enlighten me as to where I should go to find such updated, impartial, medical research. Aren't you in the clothing business? That should provide AMPLE resources to provide for me, someone who works in the medical research industry.

-the artist formerly known as sinker

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thanks for your post zen. if we ever meet I'll buy you a beer. honest.



no worries at all.. i'll buy the second round. Of course we probably should shy away from Tequila.;)

I think i argue so much here (the net) to keep from doing it in person...
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I guess maybe he should become a stripper since you are going to hit on the intelligence thing again.

Whoa...Vallerina, not I, commented on stripper's intelligence versus her own. I never put down anyone's intelligence. A person can be intelligent and mistaken belief with fact.

I completely respect both pro-choice and pro-life viewpoints as I was pro-life for many years when I was younger and my family is mostly pro-life. Although I am pro-choice, I will support anyone's right to be pro-life if they are not hurting others in the process.

I would have understood Sinker's point of view easier if it hadn't become lost in the translation. When I posted, I was stating that I was offended that he took over the Women's Forum with his own agenda and made personal attacks to others in the process. I am not the one sending offensive PMs, and I do not wish to partake in this any more. It doesn't help if women begin to (however subtly) put each other down, too. :(

Sinker, I think that you have your reasons for stating your facts so passionately, and I would never want to deter you from speaking out. It would be better in Talkback, though. ;) Also, I am sorry if I was offensive to you Sinker in my prior post. Friends? :)
We can all agreee to disagree. I love hearing everyone's comments and viewpoints because I feel that as a person, I am constantly learning. Let's try not to be so angry and offensive in our comments. We may end up offending each other, and we really do not want to hurt our sky brothers and sisters, do we?

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oh no... we should go right for the tequila... we'll just leave our guns at home! :)

hope your jump last night was good...



didnt get to make it, poor this week and the rig i've been borrowing was in use, but we hung out drank after the beer light and admired the plethora of fully automatic paint ball guns that appeared on the DZ...scary things will soon be afoot and awing

maybe thats it! we bring paint ball guns, argue till we start shooting then the unmarked declares victory then we start on the next topic :)
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DUDE!!! That's the ticket PAINT BALL GUNS!!!! What a great idea. we'll get sauced, start a debate and then cover each other w/ paint. this won't get sexual, will it?;)

but you have a little bit of an advantage... weren't you a paratrooper in the army for a spell? will ya give me like a 30 sec head start or something?

-the artist formerly known as sinker

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Aren't you in the clothing business? That should provide AMPLE resources to provide for me, someone who works in the medical research industry.


I just sent a nice post asking you to make amends with me, but now I AM offended. I thought that you were a psychiatrist or something to that degree.

I may be an apparel designer, but that does not mean that I was not on the path to becoming a physician prior to that. My father is an private practice Obstetrician/Gynecologist and my sister-in-law is a Pediatrician. All my closest family friends are physicians. I have studied medical journals, been to medical seminars, watched surgeries first-hand and have done countless research on topics that relate to the female body. I have 2 chronic immune illnesses that I diagnosed myself before anyone else, and my specialists have let me self-medicate as they always keep me up-to-date on the latest seminars for my conditions.

By the way, due to one of my illnesses, I am almost infertile myself at this point. Therefore, you can imagine that I have done much research regarding conception.

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hey... I shot that post off before I read your apology. That was really stupid of me to say those things to you. I'm sorry. Shouldn't judge a book by it's cover... I have to relearn that one over and over and over...

sorry about your illnesses... my wife has one too...

-the artist formerly known as sinker

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hey... I shot that post off before I read your apology. That was really stupid of me to say those things to you. I'm sorry. Shouldn't judge a book by it's cover... I have to relearn that one over and over and over...



You know what.....from everything you have posted lately, maybe you should just take a breather from the forums for awhile and let things cool down. Cause there are a lot of people here who are not excusing your behavior, personal attacks in an apology thread, unexcusable.
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I think its pretty easy to get banned: a few personal attacks, some name calling, and whammo... banned....***

So, who do I have to call a snivelling doodoohead?:D

Actually, sometimes folks get into ready-fire-aim mode, especially when they care deeply. Others, who don't get quite as much enjoyment from going for the debating jugular (that would include me) find this to be very uncomfortable to listen to.

I've figured out that some folks like to debate that way, just as because some folks say all (x) are stupid morons who couldn't think their way out of a paper bag, doesn't mean they actually think that way abour all (x). It's just how they feel at that particular moment. I don't really understand that approach.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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