lawrocket 3 #26 August 11, 2003 You are both wrong. "Fuck" has an etiology relating to Old English. Old English was a Germanic language. When the French invaded Britain 1066 (when the French were actually bad-asses) the French language took hold. Old English words were impolite and lesser class. Middle English was formed. English said "eat." The French way was "dine." English said "sweat." French "perspire." This went on to other topics. "Urine" is polite. "Piss" was not. "Excrement" was French. "Shit" was English (not at all relating to cannonballs.) Here, "Fuck" came from the Old English word "fokken," which meant "to strike" or "to beat against." It had nothing to do with an acronym. Edited to add: French for "fuck" was "fornicate," which is much more polite. I will note that there may be some veracity to the "Pluck Yew" story, as well. I did an academic paper on thsi topic once. I got an A+ on it, too. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #27 August 11, 2003 QuoteYou are both wrong. "Fuck" has an etiology relating to Old English. Old English was a Germanic language. When the French invaded Britain 1066 (when the French were actually bad-asses) the French language took hold. Old English words were impolite and lesser class. Middle English was formed. English said "eat." The French way was "dine." English said "sweat." French "perspire." This went on to other topics. "Urine" is polite. "Piss" was not. "Excrement" was French. "Shit" was English (not at all relating to cannonballs.) Here, "Fuck" came from the Old English word "fokken," which meant "to strike" or "to beat against." It had nothing to do with an acronym. Edited to add: French for "fuck" was "fornicate," which is much more polite. I will note that there may be some veracity to the "Pluck Yew" story, as well. I did an academic paper on thsi topic once. I got an A+ on it, too. MERDE! "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digurman 0 #28 August 11, 2003 I said, "according to my education," I didn't say how good my education was. I will defer to your expertise. The only thing I really know is martial arts. In a few years I will know skydiving too. I really like discussing Zen now and zen. Can I base jump with you sometime? I am not gay and I will get my girlfriend to give you a blow job - if you are not too big. I don't want to loose another chick for some base jumper with his balls bouncing around his knees. That is the only thing that pisses me off. Otherwise I have no concern with politics, world affairs, world hunger, the poor quality of bananas at road side stands and major grocery chains, etc. I do try to avoid causing suffering for any creature - unless it intends me harm. I love the sky, the clouds, and even the earth - as long as it doesn't come up too fast. I think there are probably better planets to jump on though. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #29 August 11, 2003 You are correct. Even the French have swear words. Je suis un grand enmerdeur. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #30 August 11, 2003 QuoteI will defer to your expertise. I'm no expert. I just read a lot. And if I ever claim to be an expert or "enlightened" (whatever that means) you have my express permission to kick my ass back into reality. QuoteCan I base jump with you sometime? Certainly. QuoteI am not gay *** whispers *** Shhhhh.... don't tell anyone, but I'm not either. QuoteI will get my girlfriend to give you a blow job - if you are not too big. Ya know, either response I give to this is wrong. lol QuoteI think there are probably better planets to jump on though. I wonder if you would fall sideways on Neptune? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #31 August 11, 2003 ***I don't want to loose another chick for some base jumper with his balls bouncing around his knees. Quote That only happens to BASE jumpers 'cause their legs are shorter from being broken so many times!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #32 August 11, 2003 Hmm...A thread about your opinion of Michael Moore has been hijacked by the definition and origin of the word "fuck". Coincidence..I don't think so. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #33 August 11, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhy go to any other church? "Taoist church" sounds like an oxymoron if you ask me. If you're into Taoism, there's a really good book called the "Tao of Zen" which traces the historical relationship of Zen & Taoism. The author's (who is a Taoist) premise is that Zen is essentially Taoism + Buddhism.... so philosophical Tao and philosophical Zen are indistinguishable. that was Zen, this is Tao..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #34 August 11, 2003 Quotethat was Zen, this is Tao.. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I was wondering when you'd join in. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #35 August 11, 2003 always lurking on occasion.. for a more 'internal' persective (vs more critical) read Zen Flesh,Zen Bones a collection of Zen/Tao writings including the gateless gate, centering and the title collection of koans.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #36 August 11, 2003 Michael Moore is a disgusting buffoon. His fame and popularity in some groups is a true testament to the failure of the American education system. When he wants to make a point and has no facts to support it, he distorts the facts in order to make his 'points'. No wonder the 'crats love him so much. Bowling for Columbine is riddled with inaccuracies and outright lies - so much so that some are calling for his Oscar to be recalled because Bowling cannot be considered a documentary due to these inaccuracies/lies. His book, Stupid White Men, is utterly laughable. I read a bit in the bookstore (I refuse to give this bigot money) and was just flabergasted. I wonder, why does he care what color anyone is? The title of his book alone shows his belief in racial prejudice/stereotypes. My US$0.02. He disgusts me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #37 August 11, 2003 QuoteMy US$0.02. He disgusts me. Michael Moore needs a 7.62mm reboot. As disgusting as he is, however, Michael Moore is still useful as an outstandingly bad example of how to propagandize and manipulate via the abuse of the First Amendment, despite my personal opinion that he would be more useful by being rendered into dogfood. Edit to change caliber to something more suitable, and add paragraph."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites digurman 0 #38 August 11, 2003 I did my "A' training in four days at Spaceland. Zen training is the only thing that got me through it. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #39 August 11, 2003 QuoteJe suis un grand enmerdeur. As opposed to "Les Petits Poo-Poos"..."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #40 August 11, 2003 QuoteZen training is the only thing that got me through it. That and a lot of spare cash. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,119 #41 August 11, 2003 >Moore needs a 9mm reboot. Wow. That statement alone is a stronger support of the philosophy expressed in BfC than anything else I've seen here (although it's a philosophy I disagree with.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites digurman 0 #42 August 11, 2003 Me or Michael? You're not supposed to slam other individuals in the forum. I'm an asshat and I know it - that's the difference between me and Moore. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites digurman 0 #43 August 11, 2003 My wife said it's money well spent. She makes enough money for me to rent anything I need. Worst BJs in Texas though. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #44 August 11, 2003 QuoteYou are both wrong. "Fuck" has an etiology relating to Old English. Old English was a Germanic language. When the French invaded Britain 1066 (when the French were actually bad-asses) The Normans invaded in 1066. The Normans were not French although Normandy is now part of France. Normans were more closely related to Scandinavians than to the French.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DYEVOUT 0 #45 August 11, 2003 QuoteNormans were more closely related to Scandinavians than to the French. HHHMMMMMMM. . . . Doesn't look Scandanavian. . . ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #46 August 11, 2003 QuoteWorst BJs in Texas though. I dunno, my ex would give just about anyone a good run for their money. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #47 August 11, 2003 Anvil, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about Michael Moore. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #48 August 11, 2003 The verb fokken, "to fuck" is a Dutch word. 16th century England did a lot of trading with Holland (including even a king and queen or two), so there were Dutch sailors coming (pun not intended...) and going all the time. When those Dutch guys said fokken, they meant it. It was a time when many Dutch words found their way into our language, as Danish, French, German, and Spanish words have in other times and places. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #49 August 11, 2003 Speaking of Dutch... I'm going there in two hours!!! ... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #50 August 11, 2003 True. The Normans and William the Conqueror were related to the Scandinavians. But, they spoke French. It was their influence that created Middle English. It's why we have so many French based words in the English language. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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Muenkel 0 #32 August 11, 2003 Hmm...A thread about your opinion of Michael Moore has been hijacked by the definition and origin of the word "fuck". Coincidence..I don't think so. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #33 August 11, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhy go to any other church? "Taoist church" sounds like an oxymoron if you ask me. If you're into Taoism, there's a really good book called the "Tao of Zen" which traces the historical relationship of Zen & Taoism. The author's (who is a Taoist) premise is that Zen is essentially Taoism + Buddhism.... so philosophical Tao and philosophical Zen are indistinguishable. that was Zen, this is Tao..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #34 August 11, 2003 Quotethat was Zen, this is Tao.. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I was wondering when you'd join in. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #35 August 11, 2003 always lurking on occasion.. for a more 'internal' persective (vs more critical) read Zen Flesh,Zen Bones a collection of Zen/Tao writings including the gateless gate, centering and the title collection of koans.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #36 August 11, 2003 Michael Moore is a disgusting buffoon. His fame and popularity in some groups is a true testament to the failure of the American education system. When he wants to make a point and has no facts to support it, he distorts the facts in order to make his 'points'. No wonder the 'crats love him so much. Bowling for Columbine is riddled with inaccuracies and outright lies - so much so that some are calling for his Oscar to be recalled because Bowling cannot be considered a documentary due to these inaccuracies/lies. His book, Stupid White Men, is utterly laughable. I read a bit in the bookstore (I refuse to give this bigot money) and was just flabergasted. I wonder, why does he care what color anyone is? The title of his book alone shows his belief in racial prejudice/stereotypes. My US$0.02. He disgusts me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #37 August 11, 2003 QuoteMy US$0.02. He disgusts me. Michael Moore needs a 7.62mm reboot. As disgusting as he is, however, Michael Moore is still useful as an outstandingly bad example of how to propagandize and manipulate via the abuse of the First Amendment, despite my personal opinion that he would be more useful by being rendered into dogfood. Edit to change caliber to something more suitable, and add paragraph."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digurman 0 #38 August 11, 2003 I did my "A' training in four days at Spaceland. Zen training is the only thing that got me through it. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #39 August 11, 2003 QuoteJe suis un grand enmerdeur. As opposed to "Les Petits Poo-Poos"..."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #40 August 11, 2003 QuoteZen training is the only thing that got me through it. That and a lot of spare cash. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #41 August 11, 2003 >Moore needs a 9mm reboot. Wow. That statement alone is a stronger support of the philosophy expressed in BfC than anything else I've seen here (although it's a philosophy I disagree with.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digurman 0 #42 August 11, 2003 Me or Michael? You're not supposed to slam other individuals in the forum. I'm an asshat and I know it - that's the difference between me and Moore. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digurman 0 #43 August 11, 2003 My wife said it's money well spent. She makes enough money for me to rent anything I need. Worst BJs in Texas though. Words aren't real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #44 August 11, 2003 QuoteYou are both wrong. "Fuck" has an etiology relating to Old English. Old English was a Germanic language. When the French invaded Britain 1066 (when the French were actually bad-asses) The Normans invaded in 1066. The Normans were not French although Normandy is now part of France. Normans were more closely related to Scandinavians than to the French.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYEVOUT 0 #45 August 11, 2003 QuoteNormans were more closely related to Scandinavians than to the French. HHHMMMMMMM. . . . Doesn't look Scandanavian. . . ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #46 August 11, 2003 QuoteWorst BJs in Texas though. I dunno, my ex would give just about anyone a good run for their money. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #47 August 11, 2003 Anvil, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about Michael Moore. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #48 August 11, 2003 The verb fokken, "to fuck" is a Dutch word. 16th century England did a lot of trading with Holland (including even a king and queen or two), so there were Dutch sailors coming (pun not intended...) and going all the time. When those Dutch guys said fokken, they meant it. It was a time when many Dutch words found their way into our language, as Danish, French, German, and Spanish words have in other times and places. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #49 August 11, 2003 Speaking of Dutch... I'm going there in two hours!!! ... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #50 August 11, 2003 True. The Normans and William the Conqueror were related to the Scandinavians. But, they spoke French. It was their influence that created Middle English. It's why we have so many French based words in the English language. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
