Remster 30 #26 August 18, 2003 QuoteLOLOL!!!!!! oh shit thats the best virgin joke i'v heard Aren't they funnier now that you're not one! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #27 August 18, 2003 Quote>Probably should have been sampled for a techno track. You realize it has been, right? Well, back in the day when I was a DJ, Rave was called "Acid House". And I DJ'd until 1995. Then I started flying jumpers and never really went back to clubbing. Had to be up too early. I collect some CDs of dance music if I think it's worth while. But I do miss a lot. Dang, another one bites the dust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #28 August 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteQuoteRace car driver? No..." well if you want to think of me as a race car driver........ "Jules....I'm tellin' yah. I'm like a race car. And right now I'm in the red. I'm tellin' yah I could blow." Ok now THAT was a good movie! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #29 August 18, 2003 nah lolI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #30 August 18, 2003 You're right, trouble is it's the wrong scene. Remember, Bowman launched in a shuttle pod in an effort to rescue Frank Poole. ------------------- BOWMAN Alright, I'll go in through the emergency airlock. HAL Without your space helmet, Dave, you're going to find that rather difficult. -------------------- That (the hatch-blowing scene) is is in my opinion one of the most realistic and exciting action shots in the history of cinema. Even if it wasn't factual (in the scene, the pod doesn't move, whereas the escaping atmosphere and the departing mass of the hatch would have made the pod move away. Good ol' Sir Isaac Netwon ). It was earlier and later in the picture that Bowman had a helmet on. He didn't in that scene, tho. "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #31 August 18, 2003 QuoteYa know, it wasn't the "music" per se that got to me, but the vocal chorus "eeEEEeeeeeeeee....eeeEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee....eeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee..." Yeah. Real creepy, but it set a fabulous mood, didn't it? "The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #32 August 18, 2003 Thanks Mark. Way to take a joke thread and turn it into a physics lesson! Bwahahahahahhaha....... And yah....I agree that it is one of the best scenes ever.....they sure don't make movies that way anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #33 August 18, 2003 >That (the hatch-blowing scene) is is in my opinion one of the most >realistic and exciting action shots in the history of cinema. I thought the coolest part about that scene was that it was silent (which is relatively accurate) until the pressure returns. >Even if it wasn't factual (in the scene, the pod doesn't move, whereas >the escaping atmosphere and the departing mass of the hatch >would have made the pod move away. Good ol' Sir Isaac Netwon ). Unless the pod was actively stationkeeping, which it is apparently able to do. Also if Bowman was smart he would have depressurized the pod first, and thus you'd only get the residual air puffing out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #34 August 18, 2003 sep at birth.jpg LOL...OMG..... bwahahahahahahhaha.......oh man I'm crying...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 August 18, 2003 Well, I understood it as music for the "Dawn of Man" sequence, but I never really understood it at the Tycho excavation scene or later in the movie. I mean, if the airlock sequence is silent (no noise in a vacuum), then . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #36 August 18, 2003 ya they don't have to, we have computers nowI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #37 August 18, 2003 Quoteya they don't have to, we have computers now Whatever you do don't change your avatar any time soon. It's a kick ass avatar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #38 August 18, 2003 hahahaha oook,I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #39 August 18, 2003 QuoteThanks Mark. Way to take a joke thread and turn it into a physics lesson! Bwahahahahahhaha....... And yah....I agree that it is one of the best scenes ever.....they sure don't make movies that way anymore. Part of that scene was due to Kubrick's stark film style. I mean, all the little buzzes and whirring sounds in the pod, then the alarms, then dead silence, which is exactly what it would have sounded like. The POV is then from HAL's, and went from color close-up to B&W fisheye. Stark, I tell ya. Stark. That's why Kubrick was famous. The interior of the emergency airlock was shot vertically. Dullea was hanging by wires, but the camera angle is so close to the wire angle that they can't be seen, though I've tried and tried over the years to spot them. As for the physics, I've always supposed that the pod would have some kind of stability control to keep it fixed in place; e.g., a quick-reacting RCS system that would keep the vehicle from translating on any axis, which is why it wasn't hurled away from the ship when the hatch blew. Only nitpickers could discuss such fine points , but hey, it's nit-picking attention to detail that makes a spectacular film like 2001 happen. IMDB has it in the Top 50 of All Time. Link to airlock scene B&W still."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #40 August 18, 2003 QuoteAnd yah....I agree that it is one of the best scenes ever.....they sure don't make movies that way anymore. Have you seen the recent release to video "Solaris" starring George Clooney? It's obvious they were trying to go for the same feel as 2001 (closer to a copyright infringement than the keys E and F or whatever that Metallica wants protected). Unfortunately I thought they failed miserably and that it sucked ass, but someone at the video store liked it, so maybe it was just me. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #41 August 18, 2003 i've always felt like i'm in that move hen i proposition chicks.... "i'm sorry dave, i can't do that"-HAL ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #42 August 18, 2003 Good sci-fi is tough to do well and right. It often ends up confusing and pointless. There are a lot of people in Hollyweird who think SF is box office poison, but it's just because they don't understand the genre. After Star Wars made it big, a lot of imitators lost a lot of money making pablum, thinking that all one needed was a lot of spaceships, rayguns and special effects. I mean, who needs a story, as long as the kids get stoned and go see it, right? However, a good SF film isn't about spaceships and rayguns, anymore than a good western is about horses and six-shooters. It's the story, and how people react and behave in different situations. "Bladerunner" was an example of Gibsonesque future noir, but now even Gibson is scaling back. His new novel takes place last year, not 25 years in the future."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #43 August 18, 2003 Sci Fi sucks....Chic flicks rule. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #44 August 18, 2003 QuoteSci Fi sucks....Chic flicks rule. Ever see Bicentennial Man?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #45 August 18, 2003 Bladerunner is one of my all time favorites!!!!!I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 7 #46 August 18, 2003 QuoteSci Fi sucks....Chic flicks rule. Oh it's goin' down now yaw! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #47 August 18, 2003 QuoteEver see Bicentennial Man? Hmmm....I think I did, but I'm pretty sure it was at the kid's request.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #48 August 18, 2003 > but now even Gibson is scaling back. His new novel takes place last > year, not 25 years in the future. To be fair, much of the stuff in his older books has come to pass. He predicted a future that more or less arrived, and is writing the same sort of stuff - it's just that his setting has caught up with him. This is happening in a lot of genres. When Star Trek first came out it was pure SF; everything was made up. Now you look at those 'technical manuals' they come out with and it's full of references to reaction control thrusters, how the EPS (electrical power system) works, the Heisenberg compensators and quantumn-entanglement systems in the transporters . . . the present is catching up with the future. Even 2001: ASO has seen this. The ion engines they use are in use right now on Deep Space One. There's a space plane. (Not as nice as theirs, but the shuttle is actually old news now.) There's a space station. The only reasons we haven't gone back to the moon, or to saturn, is that we don't want to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #49 August 18, 2003 Holy Cow! How young are you? ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #50 August 18, 2003 QuoteQuoteCheck out Vikings new avatar. Man, like it's right from the movie. um this may be dating you, or dating me one.. (or just showing my lack of knowledge of movies) but what the hell movie are you talking about? :) Stanley Kubrick's "2001, a Space Odyssey" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites