rhino 0 #51 August 29, 2003 Awwwe... PhillyKev... Do you want to play too?? lol Seriously.. It isn't over.. I think when Sadham is ACTUALLY found then allot of the skirmishes we are seeing might stop. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #52 August 29, 2003 QuoteThey are adapting faster then the enemy can think. With the enemies limited intelligence it isn't a surprise.. Rhino Umm, as a Marine you should have read some Sun Tsu, who was pretty firm on the "do not underestimate your enemy" theme, as I remember. These guys are not dumb. Fanatical yes, but dumb, no. These are not the same "suicide bus" guys we saw at the end of the war attacking the airport. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #53 August 29, 2003 wut a crock of shit these political threads always are. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #54 August 29, 2003 I will reply to this crock o shit post in my own words. pleen sgrotty toff ung nampo nampo nampo! Thank you george carlin. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #55 August 29, 2003 Quotewut a crock of shit these political threads always are. No one is forcing you to read them... I've learned a lot from these political threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #56 August 29, 2003 I have read Sun Tzu 4 times... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crapflinger2000 1 #57 August 29, 2003 Is reading the same as comprehending? Not to get into some Sun Tzu debate, but you do seem to be missing the point of my post. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #58 August 29, 2003 QuoteIs reading the same as comprehending? Trying to insult my intelligence are you? Now I know why your name is crapflinger.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crapflinger2000 1 #59 August 29, 2003 sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I asked if you comprehended it since you seemed to miss the point of my post which was that you seemed to be underestimating the intelligence of the enemy.......................... wasn't calling you dumb. talk about "straw man" damn dude.............. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #60 August 29, 2003 I base many things I do off of my comprehension of that book. The strategies and methodologies are priceless.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crapflinger2000 1 #61 August 29, 2003 sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................................ aw hell. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildblue 7 #62 August 29, 2003 QuoteWhat is really scary is that our boys and girls over there are getting better every day. They're doing such a great job, they got a pay cut! It sure would motivate me to 'adapt' ... it's bad enough I'm getting shot at, I really don't want to be there, they keep telling me I'm going home, then I don't, and to top it all off, cut my pay! QuoteDont tell me you guys are thinking about invading Illiteracy..... Uhh... I'd better go take cover... QuoteAaah, America's answer to Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf - glad to see you have found your true calling in life man. Good joke gernade.... took me a second, then I about fell out of my chair laughing!it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kmcguffee 0 #63 August 29, 2003 QuoteIt is funny that only the proponents of the war are complaining about this. Good thing that it is not just oponents of the war supporting it. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #64 August 30, 2003 In regard to this being posted publicly or through pm's, I say this, yes, the bet was made publicly, but there is such a thing as taking the high road and practicing a little humility. It takes a better man to do this. I do see this thread simply as gloating, perhaps prematurely. But on the other hand, I'm not sure if Rhino would have handled it exactly the way Bill did. Just my .02 Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #65 August 30, 2003 QuoteBy July of 2004 we plan to have in place processes that will allow us to contribute 20% of all profits directly to the families of fallen U.S. Servicemen and Women that were in Afghanistan and the recent Gulf War. Myself being a former Sergeant in the U.S. Marines, I sincerely recognize and appreciate the sacrifice that all veterans have made and continue to make on a daily basis. I want to thank you personally for your blood, sweat and tears. I want to thank your families as well. Thank you for a job well done. I will not forget our fallen heroes. It is because of you that we are free. Robert Cowan CEO, AAHIT.com Semper Fi This is off of my web site.. One of my core beliefs is to personally make sure our servicemen are taken care of.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Push 0 #66 August 30, 2003 I don't think they would stop. I think there is a general misunderstanding of the mindset of the people behind this regime. Saddam's Baath party is simply Stalinism. If we examine the original, we will notice a few things: 1) Only a few of the people running the regime are evil, the rest are deceived. It's remarkable what calls to patriotism ("for mother Russia!") can accomplish in the human psyche. 2) The majority living under Stalin truly believed that there are spies and saboteurs living in Russia and that Stalin and the KGB were working to protect them. It were not KGB spies that were responsible for the finger pointing that led to the extermination of millions, it were the neighbours of those millions. To this day, there are people that believe Stalin was a good man and that the later admissions of the regime are lies. The people you are fighting are not fighting because Saddam has an iron whip raised behind their backs, and they're not fighting because they're being paid to do so. Heck, if they were fighting for money, they'd turn Saddam in. They are fighting because they were raised in that country, because they truly believe that what Saddam is doing is the word of Allah, that Allah is with them and condones everything that happens. I think the skirmishes will stop when the guerilla fighters run out of resources, men, ammuntion, training camps, and morale. I think you misunderstand the reasons why they fight and you gravely underestimate their resolve. You are making the same mistake that Russia made when they invaded Afghanistan. Hopefully, the price for this mistake will not be quite as high. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Push 0 #67 August 30, 2003 I propose to amend the bet to last until GWB's term has ended. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #68 August 30, 2003 QuoteI propose to amend the bet to last until GWB's term has ended. Which ofcourse we know will be in January 2009. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,589 #69 August 30, 2003 Isn't it depressing to think that we might still be at war in 2009? Not a different one, but a continuous kind of low-grade chronic fatigue syndrome kind of war. It still kills people, maybe just not enough to stay front and center. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Push 0 #70 August 30, 2003 I meant current term. I think if GWB will get another term, I'll get that PhD (instead of going to work). -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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crapflinger2000 1 #57 August 29, 2003 Is reading the same as comprehending? Not to get into some Sun Tzu debate, but you do seem to be missing the point of my post. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #58 August 29, 2003 QuoteIs reading the same as comprehending? Trying to insult my intelligence are you? Now I know why your name is crapflinger.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #59 August 29, 2003 sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I asked if you comprehended it since you seemed to miss the point of my post which was that you seemed to be underestimating the intelligence of the enemy.......................... wasn't calling you dumb. talk about "straw man" damn dude.............. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #60 August 29, 2003 I base many things I do off of my comprehension of that book. The strategies and methodologies are priceless.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #61 August 29, 2003 sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................................ aw hell. __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #62 August 29, 2003 QuoteWhat is really scary is that our boys and girls over there are getting better every day. They're doing such a great job, they got a pay cut! It sure would motivate me to 'adapt' ... it's bad enough I'm getting shot at, I really don't want to be there, they keep telling me I'm going home, then I don't, and to top it all off, cut my pay! QuoteDont tell me you guys are thinking about invading Illiteracy..... Uhh... I'd better go take cover... QuoteAaah, America's answer to Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf - glad to see you have found your true calling in life man. Good joke gernade.... took me a second, then I about fell out of my chair laughing!it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #63 August 29, 2003 QuoteIt is funny that only the proponents of the war are complaining about this. Good thing that it is not just oponents of the war supporting it. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #64 August 30, 2003 In regard to this being posted publicly or through pm's, I say this, yes, the bet was made publicly, but there is such a thing as taking the high road and practicing a little humility. It takes a better man to do this. I do see this thread simply as gloating, perhaps prematurely. But on the other hand, I'm not sure if Rhino would have handled it exactly the way Bill did. Just my .02 Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #65 August 30, 2003 QuoteBy July of 2004 we plan to have in place processes that will allow us to contribute 20% of all profits directly to the families of fallen U.S. Servicemen and Women that were in Afghanistan and the recent Gulf War. Myself being a former Sergeant in the U.S. Marines, I sincerely recognize and appreciate the sacrifice that all veterans have made and continue to make on a daily basis. I want to thank you personally for your blood, sweat and tears. I want to thank your families as well. Thank you for a job well done. I will not forget our fallen heroes. It is because of you that we are free. Robert Cowan CEO, AAHIT.com Semper Fi This is off of my web site.. One of my core beliefs is to personally make sure our servicemen are taken care of.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #66 August 30, 2003 I don't think they would stop. I think there is a general misunderstanding of the mindset of the people behind this regime. Saddam's Baath party is simply Stalinism. If we examine the original, we will notice a few things: 1) Only a few of the people running the regime are evil, the rest are deceived. It's remarkable what calls to patriotism ("for mother Russia!") can accomplish in the human psyche. 2) The majority living under Stalin truly believed that there are spies and saboteurs living in Russia and that Stalin and the KGB were working to protect them. It were not KGB spies that were responsible for the finger pointing that led to the extermination of millions, it were the neighbours of those millions. To this day, there are people that believe Stalin was a good man and that the later admissions of the regime are lies. The people you are fighting are not fighting because Saddam has an iron whip raised behind their backs, and they're not fighting because they're being paid to do so. Heck, if they were fighting for money, they'd turn Saddam in. They are fighting because they were raised in that country, because they truly believe that what Saddam is doing is the word of Allah, that Allah is with them and condones everything that happens. I think the skirmishes will stop when the guerilla fighters run out of resources, men, ammuntion, training camps, and morale. I think you misunderstand the reasons why they fight and you gravely underestimate their resolve. You are making the same mistake that Russia made when they invaded Afghanistan. Hopefully, the price for this mistake will not be quite as high. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #67 August 30, 2003 I propose to amend the bet to last until GWB's term has ended. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #68 August 30, 2003 QuoteI propose to amend the bet to last until GWB's term has ended. Which ofcourse we know will be in January 2009. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #69 August 30, 2003 Isn't it depressing to think that we might still be at war in 2009? Not a different one, but a continuous kind of low-grade chronic fatigue syndrome kind of war. It still kills people, maybe just not enough to stay front and center. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #70 August 30, 2003 I meant current term. I think if GWB will get another term, I'll get that PhD (instead of going to work). -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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