chopchop 0 #76 August 21, 2003 I think most everyone in there was already a "D" license holder.. might have been a whuffo or two though also.. I really claim to not be able to remember. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skypup 0 #77 August 21, 2003 QuoteAnd now......... r2hubert Phlip AndyXXL Sebazz JR Asila SFC Crapflinger TitaniumLegs AdamT Pop TheAnvil Count me in for next weekend!!T.S.S # 5 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To dream great dreams is itself an act of daring. -Eric Shipton & Bill Tilman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #78 August 21, 2003 QuoteQuoteZack is not f'en wit you Mike... Not till next weekend And for the record you all saw it here ------> I am calling last out right now!! I hope everybody is still in for next Saturday! By the way I will break and pull high Next weekend I will be in Houston so I am OUT!!!!!! 7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #79 August 21, 2003 Might as well call the Otter from SMB... We might get too many peeps... or plan two loads. Whatever works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phlip 0 #80 August 21, 2003 mmmm more more.... r2hubert Phlip AndyXXL Sebazz JR Asila SFC Crapflinger TitaniumLegs AdamT Pop TheAnvil Chopchop Skypup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lizzieb 0 #81 August 21, 2003 can we do some night jumps next thurs or friday? i wanna jump onto the beach Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bat150 0 #82 August 21, 2003 Thank god for that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phlip 0 #83 August 21, 2003 Quoteyou mean B license...yeah...water training was awesome Mine was with a 51 year old dude in Davis... Good thing some of us are French... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites r2hubert 0 #84 August 21, 2003 QuoteNext weekend I will be in Houston so I am OUT!!!!!! That's not cool at all... I'm sorry to hear that... -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivexxl 0 #85 August 22, 2003 QuoteQuote We don't fruitloop!!! my left arm thinks otherwise...it is still scared of being grabbed onto by you in freefall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My pineapple/pear hurts..... (softly spoken) "ma-ma?" Blog Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivexxl 0 #86 August 22, 2003 Quotefeeling a little ignored here... I don't jump in Hollister for a few months and all of a sudden i don't exist? enough about you, let's talk about you! Blog Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites celljumper 0 #87 August 22, 2003 enough about you, let's talk about you! Anytime Andy, You know how I love talking about me.... Sorry I won't be there to watch you guys....sure sounds like fun though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #80 August 21, 2003 mmmm more more.... r2hubert Phlip AndyXXL Sebazz JR Asila SFC Crapflinger TitaniumLegs AdamT Pop TheAnvil Chopchop Skypup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizzieb 0 #81 August 21, 2003 can we do some night jumps next thurs or friday? i wanna jump onto the beach Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bat150 0 #82 August 21, 2003 Thank god for that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #83 August 21, 2003 Quoteyou mean B license...yeah...water training was awesome Mine was with a 51 year old dude in Davis... Good thing some of us are French... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #84 August 21, 2003 QuoteNext weekend I will be in Houston so I am OUT!!!!!! That's not cool at all... I'm sorry to hear that... -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivexxl 0 #85 August 22, 2003 QuoteQuote We don't fruitloop!!! my left arm thinks otherwise...it is still scared of being grabbed onto by you in freefall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My pineapple/pear hurts..... (softly spoken) "ma-ma?" Blog Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivexxl 0 #86 August 22, 2003 Quotefeeling a little ignored here... I don't jump in Hollister for a few months and all of a sudden i don't exist? enough about you, let's talk about you! Blog Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celljumper 0 #87 August 22, 2003 enough about you, let's talk about you! Anytime Andy, You know how I love talking about me.... Sorry I won't be there to watch you guys....sure sounds like fun though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #88 August 22, 2003 Quotemmmm more more.... r2hubert Phlip AndyXXL Sebazz JR Asila SFC Crapflinger TitaniumLegs AdamT Pop TheAnvil Chopchop & 3 Perrisites .. Skypup Just had to add in my buddies.. how many loads? chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #89 August 22, 2003 QuoteDid anyone call and check out the FAA issues. Airspace and all. If we are outside the 5 mile distance from the airport we must file a nottem and be approved. A NOTAM is required for any jump, but that can be filed by phone. When I've set these up, the FSDO instructed me to file the NOTAM with OAK FSS "23 at least 48 hours before the event and no more than 72 hours before the event". In practice, we have been able to file NOTAMs later than that, and even change details in the NOTAM at the last minute. This does not mean that the 7711-1 authorization changes with it. If there are expected to be any spectators other than jumpers and staff, then a demo waiver request (7711-2) is probably required. I've done these forms for this location in the past, but it's debatable as to whether it's absolutely essential. Like I said, it depends on spectators and landing area size. I do have the form in PDF format, already filled in with the necessary info (location in terms of VOR/DME radial and distance, jumpers, A/C, altitudes, passes, crowd control plan, etc.) I also know who to deal with at the FSDO and have an established relationship. I also have the contact info for local authorities (so we don't have the Coast Guard looking for parachutes in the water like the last time somebody else used this site) and the management of the hotel. One thing that has often been weak at this site is proper setup of the LZ and crowd control. The license or rating and paperwork required for the jump depends on how you define the landing area. If we do it as "open field", you need to guarantee a 500,000 sq ft landing area clear of obstacles and spectators, and that no jumper will land within 100 ft of any spectator. That means marked off, crowd-controlled or whatever it takes to keep that area clear. In this case, the FAA requires a C license (although USPA recommends D license) and a 7711-1 is not required. If we do it as level 1 (250,000-500,000 sq ft), D license is required, but the 7711-1 is not (although I've always done them in the past). Any landing area smaller than 250,000 at that site would be Level 2 which would require a PRO rating and 7711-1. See the BSRs under "EXTRAORDINARY SKYDIVES" in the 2003 SIM, SIM Section 7 especially table 7.A, FAR 105-15 (p. 178), FAR 105.21 (p. 179), AC91-45C (p. 202-203) and AC105-2c section 15 (page 192). On the subject of tandems on demos, prior to the new FAR, it was illegal. Period. This is because it said "no tandems on demos" in the manufacturers' manuals. The terms of the waiver to FAR 105.43 made the manuals law. Now that tandems are no longer by waiver to the FAR, the rules are defined by USPA. According to BSRs, both tandem jumpers on a level 2 demo must be D licensed and PRO-rated (kinda defeats the purpose) and you may not take a tandem into a stadium demo at all. So, if we make the area 250,000 sq ft, you can take your tandem jumper in. Since I've never seen anyone really define and control the LZ that large at that site, it ain't gonna happen on a jump that I sign for. Couple details about that site: 1. It's within 10 nautical miles of a power plant. Make sure the pilot does not loiter within 10 NM of Moss Landing. Go-arounds over the LZ itself are generally not a problem. The FAA/ATC knows what we're doing if we file the right paperwork. Don't mess with them on that. They almost had the Air Force shoot down a GA pilot who was flying straight at the plant and not answering his radio shortly after 9/11. 2. It is legal to jump on the hotel part of the beach with permission from the hotel. Generally, they will check to see if they have any events planned for the beach to make sure there is no conflict, but they love it when we do this because it entertains the guests. The gotcha is that the hotel property ends at the high tide mark, and they would rather you land BELOW the high-tide mark. Below that, it's State property. Good luck getting permission to land there. 3. The hotel will continue to "love it when we do this" as long as there are no problems. We have lost demo sites before because of accidents. Most of you weren't jumping when we used to jump into the Crow's Nest in Santa Cruz. Ask Kirk, Tim, Raff, Steph or Beth why we don't any more. We can also lose access through bad behaviour. I've heard some disturbing stories about jumper behaviour there after jumps. What may be acceptable at the DZ may not be on that hotel's property. 4. The county sheriff's department should be informed of the activities, and then informed when complete and that everyone is accounted for. Is that anough to chew on for now? (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #90 August 22, 2003 By the way, who's actually running this thing? (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #91 August 22, 2003 NIGHT JUMPS! TheAnvil LOOOOOOOOVVVVES night jumps! I love them so much! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #92 August 22, 2003 freak chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #93 August 22, 2003 QuoteNIGHT JUMPS! TheAnvil LOOOOOOOOVVVVES night jumps! I love them so much! Love the red... (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #94 August 22, 2003 ...I'm not a freak.....I'm just unique..... You are just jealous because I can do the splits at will....... Fear not, young padawan.....with a few months of hard training, you too can do the splits..... If you want to be 5'4" and an Anvil, though, you'll have to work hard..... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #95 August 22, 2003 I like red too....especially when it is NOT on my head......in my helmet.......on my jumpsuit... hehehehehehehehehe I kicked that mountain's ass. Of course, I'm going to AVOID setting foot on it again, but it knocked the shit out of me and a few minutes later, I was pissing on it. AND I met a hot emergency room doctor afterwards. All in all, I feel the mountain took an assbeating. However, I DID look like shit afterwards, as the evidence shows. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phlip 0 #96 August 22, 2003 Who's in charge? well: -Zack told us it will take at least 10 days to get the paperwork ready... -Kath said she will help filing those papers. -Renaud had the idea. -I posted the thread. Is it clear enough ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #97 August 22, 2003 Has Kath filed with SJ FSDO before? I can do it if you want. We just need to make sure we make the landing area big enough for the level of demo and jumper license/rating we want. I suggest level 1 and D-license (and no tandems). This means we should be marking off an area 500x500 feet and having a ground crew keep people out. To update the 7711-2 I need somebody to email or PM me the registration (N number) of the plane we want to use, and the pilot's name/rating/license number. The FSDO will also give us a manifest form (which I already have) which we have to complete, but not submit, with: - Name - USPA member number/exp date, - D-license number, - Pro (yes/no) and exp date - Date of last jump (see special provisions) - Main and reserve pack dates I also like to have - phone number - email Special provisions: 9. Except for tactical airborne demonstrations, minimum competency and recency of experience requirements for Level I landing areas are at least USPA Class D license with 50 jumps within the previous 12 calendar-months, and 5 jumps within the previous 30 days on the actual canopy, or same make, model and size of canopy to be used during the demonstration. The jumpers may exit over an open area and drift into a Level I landing area within a congested area and must land no closer than 50 feet from any spectators and to pass over any spectators no lower than 250 feet, including the canopy and all external paraphernalia. I can bring all the paperwork from the last time I did this. In fact, we could call it a paperwork briefing which you need for your PRO anyway. You, Renaud, anybody else who wants to work on their PRO can sit in. I'll copy some proficiency cards. Whaddya think? (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #98 August 22, 2003 Blah blah blah blah blah... Just someone tell us when it's going to be. Thank you. Oh and I am still last out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitaniumLegs 8 #99 August 22, 2003 Get back to work. No wonder legal fees are so high - all the parrotlegals surf the net all day! (>o|-< If you don't believe me, ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bat150 0 #100 August 22, 2003 Peter, well thanks for the ideas. i filled the paperwork yesterday and i have already spoken to the hotel managment. We will hopefully be on for next sat the 30th. If there is anything eles i can do to let me know because this is all very new to me. Thanks Zac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
