Name Dropping

[KATO33 0]

I was just reading through some of the incidents.
It occurred to me that people are real tight lipped about the identity of individuals who do things that are not so smart and screw up.
But when Jumper X carves the whole circumference of the pond then scores a 0.0 on the accuracy tuffet while blindfolded. We scream His/Her name from the top of Mt. Everest.
"Jumper X Kicks Ass!"
"Jumper X Rawks""
"Jumper X Is So Cool"
"Jumper X is my inspiration!"
When Jumper X smacks Him or Herself into the side of the manifest hanger everyone is Hush Hush about His or her Identity. Why??

To me Skydiving is about acceptance I accept the fact that I could do everything right and still leave my Children fatherless.

Some say they don't want to reveal the name of the person out of respect for the family or friends.

If I femured Myself my family or friends could give a rats ass about someone in Boise Idaho calling me an Idiot for trying to swoop the hanger on My fresh out the box vx with my whopping 250 jumps on student gear.

I guess all I'm saying is give up the names. They might be a hero to some up and coming jumper.
The up and coming jumper may think to himself Damn if jumper X can go in maybe I need to rethink what is really important.... Like Walking away safely.

Blue Skies Black Death

[jmpnkramer 0]

Well it is a professional courtesy that is extended in the sport.

You just should not name the jumper or the DZ it happened at.

It is also so that there is time to evaluate exactly what happened. I mean if you start dropping names and all before an investigation is done it could taint the report.

That is like I get so tired of things I have read stating that SDC had a safety issue. I mean shit happens. This is a dangerous sport. I have not had the opportunity to jump there yet but I hope to. I have also been in the sport long enough to disreguard some of the things said. Everyone has an opinion. On the other hand a young jumper might see some bad publicity and not go.

We all make some silly mistakes. In this sport though it seriously injures or kills you no need to bad talk the person. They got punished enough.

Another note is that you could do everything right and still get seriously hurt. I had a very good friend that caught a wierd eddie off of a building and was in a coma for 6-weeks. He is still not 100%. Should we bad talk that individual as well?

Bottom line is just be considerate.

Laters,

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[BoogieBob 0]

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I guess all I'm saying is give up the names.

I disagree for one overall reason -- "depersonalization."

I am a low-time jumper. I believe the incident reports are to relay a set of occurences which led to a conclusion. The occurences could be duplicated by Jumper X or Newbie Y and could lead to the same result.

I think that the moment someone thinks less about the details of the incident and more about "who" the incident involved the incident loses a lot of the educational force that it could possess. The focus is on the incident. The jumpers equipment, jump numbers, etc. are usually given to offer an idea of the experience level of the pilot. Going beyond this is detrimental to the effectiveness of incident reporting.

[KATO33 0]

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Another note is that you could do everything right and still get seriously hurt. I had a very good friend that caught a wierd eddie off of a building and was in a coma for 6-weeks. He is still not 100%. Should we bad talk that individual

I not saying to bad talk anyone just don't be so guarded about who did what.

Like I said earlier we don't hesitate to sing the praises of someone when he/she does something great. You have to take the yin with the yang.

Blue Skies Black Death

[Rookie120 0]

Why is it so important for you to know the name of who biffed?? I dont see why it is so important. Just wait for the investigation to be complete and it will eventualy be released.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[Shotgun 1]

You do have a good point... although I think the names are not really important if someone can accurately give the jumper's information - like number of jumps, wingloading, number of jumps on that canopy, if they are a pro-competitor or instructor, etc., etc., etc.,... So the name is not really as important as knowing what kind of experience they had... I see what you're saying though - if it is someone who is often on the cover of skydiving magazines or in some way considered an expert skydiver, etc., it would be nice for the public to know that these people sometimes get injured too and why. But I'd have to say I agree with the right to privacy - it should be up to each jumper if they want their name publicized after an accident.

[livendive 8]

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I think that the moment someone thinks less about the details of the incident and more about "who" the incident involved the incident loses a lot of the educational force that it could possess. The focus is on the incident. The jumpers equipment, jump numbers, etc. are usually given to offer an idea of the experience level of the pilot. Going beyond this is detrimental to the effectiveness of incident reporting.

Really? So what of Tommy Piras' effect on CYPRES use? I promise the name had more to do with the increase than the details of his incident.

Blues,
Dave

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[Shotgun 1]

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So what of Tommy Piras' effect on CYPRES use? I promise the name had more to do with the increase than the details of his incident.

That's a good point, but that was a fatality, and I believe the question is should names be publicized when it is just an injury???