Deuce 1 #2 September 10, 2003 More reinforcement that Islam is a religion of peace. I love it. A doll that can destroy a culture. That Barbie is badass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #3 September 11, 2003 Quote"Jewish Barbie dolls, with their revealing clothes and shameful postures, accessories and tools are a symbol of decadence to the perverted West. Let us beware of her dangers and be careful," he he, i liked the part where they've decided that Barbie is jewish i guess they could know better about Ken O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #4 September 11, 2003 Hooray for Barbie! Once Stripper Barbie and Crack Addict Barbie comes out in large number, i'm buying some for my brothers four girls. And oh, the Saudis aren't ruled by a tyrannical family of despot - and they're western friendly and our pals. Yeah. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #5 September 11, 2003 The Saudis have institutionalized fundamentalism. They don't have the long history of personal freedom that we do; even if there were to be a fundamentalist coup, this would be unlikely to happen in the US because of our long tradition. But this is exactly what you get when fundamentalists (could be religious, could be ideological) take hold in a place where people are used to absolute power from above. Saying Barbie is evil isn't that far removed in some ways from saying America deserved 9/11 because of tolerance of homosexuals, or that Halloween is a satanist ritual. We're just really really used to Barbie, so she seems pretty harmless. There are people in America whose daughters don't play with dolls because God said not to make any graven images. And there are people in Americal whose daughters don't play with Barbie because her clothes are too skimpy and she's too, um, well-rounded. Again, we have a tradition of personal liberty, so those people rule their families or congregations, not the country. Power is an interesting thing. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #6 September 11, 2003 QuoteHalloween is a satanist ritual hmm, so? whats wrong with satanist rituals ? if you go with freedo, go all the way o "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #7 September 11, 2003 Again, we have a tradition of personal liberty, so those people rule their families or congregations, not the country. THANK GOD!!!.......more evil has been done by religious fanatics than you can shake a stick at....... strange that in this day and age people still have such narrow minds... RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 September 11, 2003 QuoteAgain, we have a tradition of personal liberty, so those people rule their families or congregations, not the country. Except that in the here and now there are those.. within this government that seek to force EVERYONE to believe in THEIR God... in THEIR beliefs.. in THEIR interpretation of freedom. They believe they are right.. and seek to control everyone else to think in the same way or else. Those who do not believe as they do need not apply and its a very short trip to living in a fundamentalist country where only the Kabalists have power. I think I read some Sci-Fi like that 40 years ago. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #9 September 11, 2003 QuoteI think I read some Sci-Fi like that 40 years ago. Probably Heinlein's "If this goes on." Gotta love Nehemiah Scudder. I agree we're getting scarily close. Redefining your world so things you don't understand aren't legal doesn't make them not exist, it just makes you narrrowminded. Um -- that's the figurative "you" not the Amazon you Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tailgate 0 #10 September 11, 2003 QuoteQuoteHalloween is a satanist ritual And easter was originally a pagan ritual ( oster I think) _________________________________________________ Let me live in my house by the side of the road and be a friend to man- Sam Walter Foss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #11 September 11, 2003 You're a very wise person wmw99 (no sarcasm). Enough of this touchy feely stuff. One compliment a year, finally got it off my hands. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 September 11, 2003 I do believe you know of the book of which I was thinking. I read MOST of Heinleins work when I was a girl. The world of the future for a girl looked so much better than 50's America reality. That "reality" is what some would have us return to.. and extend it further this time. The politics of exclusion. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #13 September 11, 2003 Quotehe he, i liked the part where they've decided that Barbie is jewish This is a question, not a statement, but don't the radical muslims view Jews and Christians in the same light? I.E. one group? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #14 September 11, 2003 QuoteQuotehe he, i liked the part where they've decided that Barbie is jewish This is a question, not a statement, but don't the radical muslims view Jews and Christians in the same light? I.E. one group? Yes. The extremists view them as being in the same food group. Bwah! That's funny! -Sorry. But it's still funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #15 September 11, 2003 IIRC correctly, Christmas was a pagan holiday as wellI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #16 September 11, 2003 i really have no idea. there are a lot of similarities in the views and values and both were developed from the same origins. then again, so did islam. personally i see religion (all religions) as a human invention needed in order to explain things that couldn't be explained at the time by other means. how do radical islamic (or jews or christians for that matter) see progress? that's another issue there are also very religious jews and christians that would like to put barbie on the black list, but lucky for us they are not in control and to your question, i guess some of them see everyone who is not them, in the same light. anyway, my dispute with them is cultural, not religious. and in that sense i guess modern USA and Israel share the same culture... O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
