Zogby International Conducts 1st Scientific Survey of Iraq

[bodypilot90 0]

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=734

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Zogby International conducted interviews of 600 adults chosen at random with consideration for ethnic background, gender, religion and social class, throughout locations in Iraq. Interviews were conducted August 3-19, 2003 in Basra, Karkouk, Mousel and Al Ramadi.

The following ethnic groups - Arabs, Kurds, Turkaman, and Assyrians - were interviewed, as well as the following religious groups - Shiaa, Sunni and Christians. Interviewers traveled to public places (shopping areas and coffee shops) chosen from different social neighborhoods. The survey's margin of sampling error is +/- 4.1%.

Will Iraq be a better or worse country five years from now? Will it be harder to rebuild Iraq economically or politically? Can Democracy Work in Iraq? Should America and Britain make sure that fair government is set up in Iraq?

These are just a few questions asked in Zogby International's first scientific poll of current Iraqi public opinion. This groundbreaking survey reaches directly to the Iraqi people and the results are astounding.

The survey reveals that 69.7% of Iraqis feel that their country will be better five years from now. See the charts below for details.

[PhillyKev 0]

You mean they think they'll be better off in 5 years than they are now?

Now = bombed out with no government, rampant looting and violence, and a foreign occupying force.

This might be a little more persuasive to your stance if the question asked if they think they'll be better off than they were a year ago.

[bodypilot90 0]

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Now = bombed out with no government, rampant looting and violence, and a foreign occupying force.

and you think they were better off before? NOT

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This might be a little more persuasive to your stance if the question asked if they think they'll be better off than they were a year ago.

I beleive I posted it w/o comment. Are sensitive perhaps because the Iraqi's want us there?

[Muenkel 0]

Um...I think the Zogby's were asking the Iraqi's, not you. It seems their poll is directed to their opinion.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if they were better off in 5 years. What happened has already happened, why not hope that good will come of it?

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Chris

[PhillyKev 0]

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I beleive I posted it w/o comment.

Yeah, you do that a lot. But it's pretty obvious to everyone what your stance is.

I'm not saying that they won't be better off in 5 years. Of think that they will. I'm just saying that it's a useless propaganda piece. It's like asking New Yorkers on 9/11 if they're having a good day.

[FliegendeWolf 0]

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What happened has already happened, why not hope that good will come of it?

I do hope that good comes of the situation eventually. What choice do I have?

However, many of us felt from the start that what happened was a big mistake and we have not forgotten that, especially now that it is becoming clearer and clearer that the American public was lied to in the service of making that mistake. I would like to see all of those responsible for what has happened be held accountable for it. Rather, I see many people washing their hands of it, saying that the situation is as it is and we must make the best of it.

There is a reason why the situation is as it is.

A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All

[kiltboy 0]

I think they will be better off in 5 years and I don't believe anyone can realistically argue against that.

I've read about the standard of policing there prior to the coalition going in with cops that were illiterate and couldn't take statements. There is progress being made but simple things for a cop such as putting a kid in the back of a Rover to take him in for a statement are met with terror simply because previously that same person may not have returned.

There is a significant legacy of the old regime that will take time to oevrcome. It will be interesting to see what the US/UK involvement will be in Iraq in 5 years time.

David

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Yeah, you do that a lot. But it's pretty obvious to everyone what your stance is.

I'm not saying that they won't be better off in 5 years. Of think that they will. I'm just saying that it's a useless propaganda piece. It's like asking New Yorkers on 9/11 if they're having a good day.

I agree with you. It is a completely useless reseaqrch project if and when it is used for justification of the US invasion of Iraq.

I wonder when some of these posters start figuring out they were lied to by their own government.

[turtlespeed 226]

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I wonder when some of these posters start figuring out they were lied to by their own government.

I wonder when the rest of these posters will figure out that the difference between right and wrong.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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I wonder when some of these posters start figuring out they were lied to by their own government.

I wonder when the rest of these posters will figure out that the difference between right and wrong.

I wonder what these posters are going to have for lunch.

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

[kiltboy 0]

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I wonder what these posters are going to have for lunch.

I'm having leftover pasta and a yoghurt.

You?

David

[bodypilot90 0]

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Yeah, you do that a lot. But it's pretty obvious to everyone what your stance is.

I have heard a lot of talk from the left not just you of how the "arab street" and how the Irai's feel about the US and the war. I post a poll and you are offended. I think your mad because, A) they not only want us there but want to be like us, free.

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I'm not saying that they won't be better off in 5 years. Of think that they will. I'm just saying that it's a useless propaganda piece. It's like asking New Yorkers on 9/11 if they're having a good day.

I see only things that agree with what you feel "the truth is" is fact. If not it's propaganda. I'm sorry but this is the same bs I hear from the left day in and day out. The good news is, the bad news is wrong. The average iraqi is happy they can get on with there life. Have hope for the future. I know a few more Iranians than Iraqis but they like us want freedom. We have gave the a chance. You might not think this is good, you might be ashamed to be a american. I am proud of what we are doing and I hope the dems don't get there way and sell them short. How long have we been in Germany and Japan? Fact is we are still there, after how long? WE have a plan and it will not be cheap. But do you want to turn your back on them now? Freedom isn't free and being a leader of the free world isn't either. this is not aimed at you directly Kev but all of the left.

[PhillyKev 0]

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I have heard a lot of talk from the left not just you of how the "arab street" and how the Irai's feel about the US and the war.

I've never made a claim of how the Iraqi's feel.

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I post a poll and you are offended. I think your mad because, A) they not only want us there but want to be like us, free.

I'm not offended, I'm just not buying into the results of a questionaire that was worded with an intention of producing pre-determined results. I sincerely hope and believe they want to be free. That doesn't mean I think they're enjoying their current circumstances.

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I see only things that agree with what you feel "the truth is" is fact. If not it's propaganda. I'm sorry but this is the same bs I hear from the left day in and day out.

No, I find facts to be facts, and I'm not disputing the fact that the poll stated. Which is that they think they'll be better off 5 years from now then they are right now. What I'm not doing is assuming that means something more than that.

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You might not think this is good, you might be ashamed to be a american.

I think helping the Iraqi people is a good thing, I'm not in the least bit ashamed to be an American. But I also think we could have helped the Iraqis in other ways that would have been better.

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I hope the dems don't get there way and sell them short.

From what I've seen, what a lot of both democrats and republicans that are unhappy with the current situation want, is to have clearly stated, quantitative goals and a plan to complete what was started. Not quick action without thought to the consequences.

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WE have a plan and it will not be cheap. But do you want to turn your back on them now?

No, I don't want to turn my back on them. But what exactly is the plan? Restoring democracy is not a plan. It's a goal. Without the steps to achieve that goal being defined before taking action, you'll never achieve it.

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this is not aimed at you directly Kev but all of the left.

See, that's the problem. You're looking at this as a partisan struggle. It should be a bi-partisan effort. In fact it should be an international effort. But Bush is doing what his advisors tell him is best, instead of looking outside of their narrow view to find an equitable solution.