PhillyKev 0 #1 September 12, 2003 Justice Department suing to shut down RXService. -The charge: Helping senior citizens import cheaper prescriptions from Canada Tommy Chong sentenced to 9 months in prison. -The charge: Leasing his name to a company that sells pipes. I feel safer already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casch 0 #2 September 12, 2003 QuoteJustice Department suing to shut down RXService. -The charge: Helping senior citizens import cheaper prescriptions from Canada Is that really illegal?? That sux Prescriptions are so damned expensive in the US, and the elderly don't exactly have a whole lot of disposable income... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 September 12, 2003 QuoteIs that really illegal?? Of course it is. After all, if drug company profits go down, then they don't contribute as much campaign money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #4 September 12, 2003 Maybe we should just call him Mr Cashcroft.... -Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 September 12, 2003 Carefull Big Brother and that secret computer program to pick up certain keywords..... are watching... you would not want to be on the very first concentration camp lists now would you? Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #6 September 12, 2003 One of the reasons I'm a pro-gun liberal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #7 September 12, 2003 Dude, are you trying to steal BillVon's award for most political threads with a liberal slant? "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #8 September 12, 2003 There's an award? Seriously though, where's the slant in my original post? Tommy Chong was charged under Ashcroft's self declared paraphenalia crack down. RXService is being sued for marketing low cost prescription drugs to seniors. Those are facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #9 September 12, 2003 QuoteCarefull Big Brother and that secret computer program to pick up certain keywords..... are watching... you would not want to be on the very first concentration camp lists now would you? Amazon Ashcroft is a lying arsehole and it's a wonder someone hasn't assassinated him by using nazi, communist or islamic terrorists and some big bombs and explosions There. Even highlighted the key words. Perhaps Ashcroft will invade Denmark to get to me and I'll get a shot at being a freedom fighter. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #10 September 12, 2003 QuoteRXService is being sued for marketing low cost prescription drugs to seniors. Using the same facts try wording it this way: RXService is being sued by the DOJ for assisting in the importation of unregulated prescription drugs to senior citizens. Since they are unregulated you can have this happen: Quote The FDA said the companies aren't just violating the law, but also endangering the health of customers. For example, FDA agents posed as customers and ordered Serzone, a powerful antidepressant, from Rx Depot. The company promised that it would ship a U.S.-made, FDA-approved bottle of the drug. Instead, Rx Depot shipped to FDA what appeared to be a counterfeit copy of Serzone, made in some country other than the United States or Canada, Hubbard said. I'm not arguing over who is right just that your "facts" were true but were slanted to the liberal side. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 September 12, 2003 Kewl As you can see not all of us are ready to goose step quite yet Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #12 September 12, 2003 Glad to hear it Amazon. I bet we'd make a kickass pair of freedom fighters. I'll let you sleep in the sewers waiting for the right moment to slip into the Enemy Stronghold while I seduce keep the Enemy Female Soldiers occupied. Glory is forever and all that Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 September 12, 2003 Right, that's the legal basis they're using. But in actuality, the "counterfeit" copy is the exact same drug, made by the same manufacturer. But because it was made somewhere that the FDA doesn't have jurisdiction over, they don't recognize it as "regulated". I used to work for J&J and had to go through many FDA audits. I know what the beuracracy of that organization is like. It's one of the reasons that the drugs are cheaper. Not because they're made differently, but because they don't have to have an entire support staff and computer systems in place to make sure every i is dotted and every t is crossed. My last project there was installing compters enclosed in environmentally sealed protective boxes on the manufacturing floor of an over the counter production facility. The reason was the FDA required electronic copies of all processes be available at all times at every machine. For years, they had books around the floor, they would open the book and follow the instructions to clean out the gel dipping machine. But because of the new regs, they had to spend $12,000,000 and hire 15 full time employees, just to support an automated document system. They don't have those beuracratic requirements in facilities that are manufacturing for other countries, but they still follow the same procedures. And are able to sell the drugs more cheaply. Also, drug companies in other countries are prohibited from charging over certain legally mandated profit margins. They make much more profit here in the US where they don't have the same limitations. Not that there's anything wrong with them making a profit. But I don't think there should be anything wrong with consumers shopping for the best price, either. QuoteThe company promised that it would ship a U.S.-made, FDA-approved bottle of the drug. But if they did lie to the consumer, I can see a basis for it. But do you really think that's the prime motivating factor behind the suit? Or could it be that the drug company lobbyists have had some input because it's hitting their profits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #14 September 12, 2003 I did hear that Denmark was going to be the next member of the Axis of Evil. Better be careful or you might end up on a deck of cards!illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #15 September 12, 2003 QuoteI did hear that Denmark was going to be the next member of the Axis of Evil. Better be careful or you might end up on a deck of cards! I would HOPE so. Look at my avatar. Am a geek in my spare time and fly in an online massive multiplayer WWII flight sim called "Aces High". You guessed it - I fly in a german squad - 190A5's mostly. Avatar is the noseart of 7th gruppe of III/JagdGruppe 54 "Grünherz" . Nothing I like better than shooting the pilot who just bailed out of a burning P.51. ' Horrido! Amreekhan peeghkdokk is beink make death!" I yell over the comlink. I'm more comfortable being on the Bad Guy side. Hell, if I lived in the Star Wars universe, I'd be a Storm Trooper or even better a Tie Fighter pilot. Oh man oh man, and I'd get medals for killing rebels, given by Darth Vader hisself! Ordnung mußt sein! Am too ugly to be on a deck of cards, so I don't worry too much. ) Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #16 September 12, 2003 I will feel safe in 12 minutes at 4:20 . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #17 September 13, 2003 Not sure about the importing of foreign drugs. I think that really opens up some possibilities for problems. The Tommy Chong thing....that's just STUPID!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #18 September 13, 2003 I thought the sale of pipes was completely legal. Did this Chong company talk about them being used for illegal stuff? They could very well be used for tobacco, of course __________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pubwoof 0 #19 September 13, 2003 Some of us Missourians used to prefer Trashcroft, but I think you're name is much more accurate. I probably shouldn't be making this post considering the new powers this nazi has at his fingers. Even though the Patriot Act only provides for the indefinite secret detention of non-citizens (no access to due process or even the media), who would know if one of us citizens were to turn up missing under those conditions? Now doesn't that make you feel safer? The glass isn't always half-full OR half-empty. Sometimes, the glass is just too damn big. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #20 September 13, 2003 Until he became the Reich, er Homeland Security unter fuhrer, Assholecroft's biggest accomplishment was losing a Senate race - to a dead man. That's right folks, the people of Missouri were so impressed with Senator Assholecroft's record as their US Senator that they elected a dead man to replace him. It's a fact, so don't give me any of that "liberal" horseshit either... Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pds 0 #21 September 13, 2003 QuoteNot sure about the importing of foreign drugs. I think that really opens up some possibilities for problems. The Tommy Chong thing....that's just STUPID!!! ask seniors on fixed incomes being charged exorbitant prices for prescription drugs that are being dumped in other countries such as canada and mexico at incredibly slashed cost. ever heard of casino buses or bingo buses, well in the northeast there is a booming industry of prescription busses, regularly transporting seniors to canada to get the SAME drugs at 50-70 % less. our senior citizens are voting with thier dollars. good for them. they know it isn't 'legal' but have been more that happy to go on national TV and talk about it. leave tommy alone, ashcroft. ESCHELON ESCHELON ESCHELON ESCHELON ESCHELON bite my ass, you patriot bill whore bite my ass, you patriot bill whore ESCHELON ESCHELON ESCHELON ESCHELON ESCHELONnamaste, motherfucker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 September 13, 2003 QuoteI thought the sale of pipes was completely legal. It is, in almost every state. However there are INTERSTATE laws against it. In other words. Every state, could have no problem with it. But since their business incorporates many states, the Feds, can step right on in. Good thing the republicans represent less centralized gov't, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #23 September 13, 2003 Regardless of what you wish. A law is a law. Ashcroft does not make the laws. As Attourney General his job is to see that the laws that CONGRESS passes are inforced. Yes I'm sure the republicans get lots of $$$ from the drug companies. But he would not have had the political backing to go after RX.com if they had not screwed up in the first place. I don't feel like looking it up, and you seem to leave out the details that don't support your argument in your orig post--So I'm not going to respond in reference to Tommy Chong, cause have no Idea who the hell he is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #24 September 13, 2003 1 little gif says it all. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #25 September 15, 2003 Actually, I didn't make an argument in the original post. I printed what was the headling from the Wall Street Journal (not exactly a liberal paper). Tommy Chong...ala Cheech and Chong. Ala That 70's Show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
