jmpnkramer 0 #1 September 14, 2003 Once again I have to shout out an accomplishment of a new individual in the sport. On Saturday September 13 SkydiveNFlorida(Angela) did a 16-Point 4-Way with only 29 Jumps. We went out on a 4-Way that went bust and the little lady was discouraged. I was able to convice her to give it one more try and erveything went beautiful. The exit came off clean and the smile was on! You have never seen someone smile so much. That dive changed her whole attitude and made her day. It also had me very happy for her. This young woman has some definite potential. I hope I get to watch her grow into the sport. Allrighty everyone. Let's give this young lady some attention for a job well done. Blue Skies in Florida, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #2 September 14, 2003 QuoteOn Saturday September 13 SkydiveNFlorida(Angela) did a 16-Point 4-Way with only 29 Jumps. We went out on a 4-Way that went bust and the little lady was discouraged. I was able to convice her to give it one more try and erveything went beautiful way to go! Never give up! More fun is just a jump away and thanks for helping her out jmpnkramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #3 September 14, 2003 That's great...now it's time for me to get ahold of her and bring her over to the darkside. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #4 September 14, 2003 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just b/c no-one wanted to work with you on flying skills and you went to the dark side. This girlie has excekent potential. She like SunnyDee123 wants to be well rounded. How is your weekend? It is awesome here. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirMail 0 #5 September 14, 2003 Way to go SkydiveNFlorida. That's great. Congrats. Postal Rodriguez Muff 3342-- It's never too late to have a happy childhood. Postal Rodriguez, Muff 3342 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #6 September 14, 2003 That's awesome!! You go girl! -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 September 14, 2003 QuoteOn Saturday September 13 SkydiveNFlorida(Angela) did a 16-Point 4-Way with only 29 Jumps. Geez, I had hundreds of jumps before I did 16 points on a four way. I don't know whether to congratulate her or cuss her out. Seriously though, that's awesome. Sure hope you guys had video - cuz you know what it means if you didn't! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #8 September 14, 2003 QuoteThat's great...now it's time for me to get ahold of her and bring her over to the darkside. yes she said she wanted to do crw! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #9 September 14, 2003 Hey there Skybytch. Glad to hear you made it safe. How long did it take you? No we did not have video but those of us on the dive do not have anything to prove. The little woman worked hard and deserves the credit. the three of us were very impressed with the dive. As a matter of fact we all looked at the alti's b/c we figured we had to be getting low. That is how smooth the dive went. Just remember where the cig butts go! Hope you are enjoying the Wonderfully Hot Humid Weather, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #10 September 14, 2003 QuoteJust b/c no-one wanted to work with you on flying skills and you went to the dark side. Oh, they wanted to work with me and they still do. It's just that when I saw how awesome freeflying is, I didn't want to go back to my belly. I've actually been talking to Carl Dougherty about learning some more of that RW stuff pretty soon.....but that's so I can fly more slots on hybrids. QuoteShe like SunnyDee123 wants to be well rounded. Lol....let's find out how many RW jumps Sunnydee has compared to Freefly jumps before you use her as an example to put me down! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Galen 0 #11 September 14, 2003 Nice job. Sorry you got bummed out from the first one but glad you got to see (do) how good it can be. Gotta admit there were some exciting things that happened on that jump that went bust. It was still a good time. Gotta love z-hills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #12 September 14, 2003 QuoteOn Saturday September 13 SkydiveNFlorida(Angela) did a 16-Point 4-Way with only 29 Jumps. Wow...that sounds too good to be true! I'll take your word for it, though, and congratulate Angela! Jmpnkramer, could you please explain in detail in another post what exactly this skydive was that you all did, including the exit? I am VERY interested to know of any 4-way skydives that could be done by a talented novice. What was her slot? Also, what altitude did you all exit and where did you break off? Had she done many serious 2-ways before? Was it done in the boxman or mantis, etc? Angela is one majorly talented skychick! QuoteJust b/c no-one wanted to work with you on flying skills and you went to the dark side. Wow, that is quite insult to Skymama and freeflyers, in general. Andrea loves freeflying, but it doesn't mean that she could not have been a great belly flyer if she had chosen to pursue that. She is obviously wanting Angela to try freeflying so that she could share in her love of the dark side...that is all. The friends that I made in skydiving early on, were freeflyers. They and I assumed that I would love freeflying, but then I realized that I love RW and want to pursue that discipline instead. That doesn't mean that it was because no one wanted to work with me on FF skills. QuoteShe like SunnyDee123 wants to be well rounded. Sunnydee is a wonderfully nice person, but how on earth is she better-rounded than Skymama? They both primarily freefly, right? Anyway, no matter what discipline Angela pursues, it is completely HER own decision if she decides that she wants to FF some day, instead of belly fly. Edited to add: WOW! Congratulations to Galen, too! To do a 16 point 4-way with his realtively few jumps is also quite an achievement! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Galen 0 #13 September 14, 2003 I wasn't on the 16 pointer. One of the reasons they were able to pull it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #14 September 14, 2003 My my my my my. Way to go! I bet she was imagining herself as a flying integral sign that had to go to inifinity and jump a secants bones...HAHAHA Good job girl. Wish I could do dat too! JumpScars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stacy 0 #15 September 15, 2003 yeah, apparently RW isn't all about cutaways and funnelled exits,.... __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyhi 24 #16 September 15, 2003 Quoteyeah, apparently RW isn't all about cutaways and funnelled exits,.... funneled exits...who said funneled exits? Rings a bell, but I just can't put my finger on it... Remember, the earlier you funnel, the more time you have on the rebuild. Aloha!Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jmpnkramer 0 #17 September 15, 2003 QuoteWow, that is quite insult to Skymama and freeflyers, in general. Take a DEEEEEEEEEEEEEP Breath and REEEEEEEEEEEEELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!First, it was not an insult. SkyMama knows me well and how I like to give people a hard time. I am a practical jokester. Some of my best buds are FreeFliers. We all enjoy giving each other a hard time. As a matter of fact I have buds in all facets of the skydiving community. Second, I am a free spirited and fun loving guy. One of the reasons I have not competed. I enjoy life to the fullest. I have done several FreeFly Jumps. The Only reason Angela and I did not get to sit is because one of Florida's Infamous Thunder Storms rolled in on us. At least the pilot got out ticket back. Thanks Pete you are one Hell of a pilot. Third, this is a FREE COUNTRY of which I am one of the many defenders of that Freedom! Of course it is Angela's decision on what she wants to do. I back any individual on their endevours in life. As long as the individual is happy. That is all that matters in this world. "Being Happy!" QuoteThe friends that I made in skydiving early on, were freeflyers. They and I assumed that I would love freeflying I see that you let others influence you decision in the beginning on what to do. I just had to give you a hard time on that. I find it funny that you want details and assistance then procede to rip me up. I will be at Perris on the 27TH of this month. I would be glad to do some jumps with you. I cannot guarantee anything but fun and a learning experience. I will be going with two other individuals and a fourth would be nice. Just let me know. I will let Oren(OKalb) describe the dive as he was the one who orchestrated it. I will PM him now. Always remember to Have Fun and Enjoy Life. It is Short!!!!!!! Blue Skies & Soft Openings, Keith(KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!)The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites okalb 104 #18 September 15, 2003 QuoteJmpnkramer, could you please explain in detail in another post what exactly this skydive was that you all did, including the exit? I am VERY interested to know of any 4-way skydives that could be done by a talented novice. What was her slot? Also, what altitude did you all exit and where did you break off? When I planned the dive I wanted to make it something with very small moves that would work. She flew inside center, I was OC, Kramer was point and Drew Zastrow was tail. We pulled out a sidebody exit and the points were as follows. Sidebody, Open accordion, Meeker, Star. We probably could have gotten a few more points if Angela had some lead on. We had a few fall rate problems at first. All in all it was an awesome skydive and I was happy to be a part of it. Keep up the good work gurlie! -OKTime flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrenchyDiver 0 #19 September 15, 2003 Way to Angela Hispas Brothers President HISPA #2, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #20 September 15, 2003 QuoteI see that you let others influence you decision in the beginning on what to do. I just had to give you a hard time on that. Nope, sorry, but no one influenced what discipline I was to pursue or even the fact that I made the decision to skydive. If that was the case, I would have done a tandem for my first jump, instead of the AFF1 that I chose to do. Reread my first post. I THOUGHT that I would like FF, which were the people that I originally gravitated towards when beginning to go through AFF, but I realized that I loved RW instead. That was my whole point...freedom of discipline. Quote First, it was not an insult. SkyMama knows me well and how I like to give people a hard time. I am a practical jokester. Some of my best buds are FreeFliers. We all enjoy giving each other a hard time. As a matter of fact I have buds in all facets of the skydiving community. Oooops...sorry, my bad. Well, posts can be taken the wrong way. Skymama is SOOO sweet that I have to be protective of her. By the way, I don't believe that I "ripped" you up in my post, but if I did, I'm sorry. I will be jumping out of a plane witrh a bunch of people that I do not know for the Byron Boogie on the 27th, but have fun in Perris! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #21 September 15, 2003 Thank you for the description, that is perfect! Yeah, I understand about Angela needing lead. I probably will need some, too, seeing that I only weigh around 97 lbs. It's hard to fall as fast as the big guys as they are double my weight. Anyway, thank you, again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites okalb 104 #22 September 15, 2003 Come down to the hills and we can see if we can take you up on a 17 point 4-way just to beat out Angela Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #23 September 15, 2003 QuoteCome down to the hills and we can see if we can take you up on a 17 point 4-way just to beat out Angela You are so cute, Okalb, but I don't want to "beat", Angela. That's my girl! I have never met her, but I admire her very, very much, and I have ever since THIS thread! Healthy competition is fun, though. I may fly out there someday, and if I do you can bet that I will track you down. We can do that 17 point 4-way WITH Angela!!! How does that sound? 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Galen 0 #13 September 14, 2003 I wasn't on the 16 pointer. One of the reasons they were able to pull it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #14 September 14, 2003 My my my my my. Way to go! I bet she was imagining herself as a flying integral sign that had to go to inifinity and jump a secants bones...HAHAHA Good job girl. Wish I could do dat too! JumpScars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #15 September 15, 2003 yeah, apparently RW isn't all about cutaways and funnelled exits,.... __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #16 September 15, 2003 Quoteyeah, apparently RW isn't all about cutaways and funnelled exits,.... funneled exits...who said funneled exits? Rings a bell, but I just can't put my finger on it... Remember, the earlier you funnel, the more time you have on the rebuild. Aloha!Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #17 September 15, 2003 QuoteWow, that is quite insult to Skymama and freeflyers, in general. Take a DEEEEEEEEEEEEEP Breath and REEEEEEEEEEEEELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!First, it was not an insult. SkyMama knows me well and how I like to give people a hard time. I am a practical jokester. Some of my best buds are FreeFliers. We all enjoy giving each other a hard time. As a matter of fact I have buds in all facets of the skydiving community. Second, I am a free spirited and fun loving guy. One of the reasons I have not competed. I enjoy life to the fullest. I have done several FreeFly Jumps. The Only reason Angela and I did not get to sit is because one of Florida's Infamous Thunder Storms rolled in on us. At least the pilot got out ticket back. Thanks Pete you are one Hell of a pilot. Third, this is a FREE COUNTRY of which I am one of the many defenders of that Freedom! Of course it is Angela's decision on what she wants to do. I back any individual on their endevours in life. As long as the individual is happy. That is all that matters in this world. "Being Happy!" QuoteThe friends that I made in skydiving early on, were freeflyers. They and I assumed that I would love freeflying I see that you let others influence you decision in the beginning on what to do. I just had to give you a hard time on that. I find it funny that you want details and assistance then procede to rip me up. I will be at Perris on the 27TH of this month. I would be glad to do some jumps with you. I cannot guarantee anything but fun and a learning experience. I will be going with two other individuals and a fourth would be nice. Just let me know. I will let Oren(OKalb) describe the dive as he was the one who orchestrated it. I will PM him now. Always remember to Have Fun and Enjoy Life. It is Short!!!!!!! Blue Skies & Soft Openings, Keith(KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!)The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #18 September 15, 2003 QuoteJmpnkramer, could you please explain in detail in another post what exactly this skydive was that you all did, including the exit? I am VERY interested to know of any 4-way skydives that could be done by a talented novice. What was her slot? Also, what altitude did you all exit and where did you break off? When I planned the dive I wanted to make it something with very small moves that would work. She flew inside center, I was OC, Kramer was point and Drew Zastrow was tail. We pulled out a sidebody exit and the points were as follows. Sidebody, Open accordion, Meeker, Star. We probably could have gotten a few more points if Angela had some lead on. We had a few fall rate problems at first. All in all it was an awesome skydive and I was happy to be a part of it. Keep up the good work gurlie! -OKTime flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrenchyDiver 0 #19 September 15, 2003 Way to Angela Hispas Brothers President HISPA #2, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #20 September 15, 2003 QuoteI see that you let others influence you decision in the beginning on what to do. I just had to give you a hard time on that. Nope, sorry, but no one influenced what discipline I was to pursue or even the fact that I made the decision to skydive. If that was the case, I would have done a tandem for my first jump, instead of the AFF1 that I chose to do. Reread my first post. I THOUGHT that I would like FF, which were the people that I originally gravitated towards when beginning to go through AFF, but I realized that I loved RW instead. That was my whole point...freedom of discipline. Quote First, it was not an insult. SkyMama knows me well and how I like to give people a hard time. I am a practical jokester. Some of my best buds are FreeFliers. We all enjoy giving each other a hard time. As a matter of fact I have buds in all facets of the skydiving community. Oooops...sorry, my bad. Well, posts can be taken the wrong way. Skymama is SOOO sweet that I have to be protective of her. By the way, I don't believe that I "ripped" you up in my post, but if I did, I'm sorry. I will be jumping out of a plane witrh a bunch of people that I do not know for the Byron Boogie on the 27th, but have fun in Perris! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #21 September 15, 2003 Thank you for the description, that is perfect! Yeah, I understand about Angela needing lead. I probably will need some, too, seeing that I only weigh around 97 lbs. It's hard to fall as fast as the big guys as they are double my weight. Anyway, thank you, again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites okalb 104 #22 September 15, 2003 Come down to the hills and we can see if we can take you up on a 17 point 4-way just to beat out Angela Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #23 September 15, 2003 QuoteCome down to the hills and we can see if we can take you up on a 17 point 4-way just to beat out Angela You are so cute, Okalb, but I don't want to "beat", Angela. That's my girl! I have never met her, but I admire her very, very much, and I have ever since THIS thread! Healthy competition is fun, though. I may fly out there someday, and if I do you can bet that I will track you down. We can do that 17 point 4-way WITH Angela!!! How does that sound? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stacy 0 #24 September 15, 2003 hmm i think angela turned more points on that jump than box's 4way average. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sunnydee123 0 #25 September 15, 2003 Kramer is all motivational and inspirational like....and is Skymama digging me? I had 52 jumps before I went to "the dark side" and I have probably done at least another 20 assorted belly type jumps since then. So not a ton on the belly but they are scattered inbetween the CRW and Sit stuff.............I love it all - actually did a belly jump this weekend and it was fun - but of course the deal was I'd exit belly, turn a few quick points and then we got to sit/stand....yippy! So that is my story and I am sticking to it! Dreams become reality, one choice at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #21 September 15, 2003 Thank you for the description, that is perfect! Yeah, I understand about Angela needing lead. I probably will need some, too, seeing that I only weigh around 97 lbs. It's hard to fall as fast as the big guys as they are double my weight. Anyway, thank you, again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #22 September 15, 2003 Come down to the hills and we can see if we can take you up on a 17 point 4-way just to beat out Angela Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #23 September 15, 2003 QuoteCome down to the hills and we can see if we can take you up on a 17 point 4-way just to beat out Angela You are so cute, Okalb, but I don't want to "beat", Angela. That's my girl! I have never met her, but I admire her very, very much, and I have ever since THIS thread! Healthy competition is fun, though. I may fly out there someday, and if I do you can bet that I will track you down. We can do that 17 point 4-way WITH Angela!!! How does that sound? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #24 September 15, 2003 hmm i think angela turned more points on that jump than box's 4way average. __ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnydee123 0 #25 September 15, 2003 Kramer is all motivational and inspirational like....and is Skymama digging me? I had 52 jumps before I went to "the dark side" and I have probably done at least another 20 assorted belly type jumps since then. So not a ton on the belly but they are scattered inbetween the CRW and Sit stuff.............I love it all - actually did a belly jump this weekend and it was fun - but of course the deal was I'd exit belly, turn a few quick points and then we got to sit/stand....yippy! So that is my story and I am sticking to it! Dreams become reality, one choice at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
