help with ibm as400

[SkydiveNFlorida 0]

I am still learning on this system, we have test and development 'regions', each pointing to some libraries (ie, batcht points to test libraries, batchp points to production libraries). How do I look at these regions to see what libraries to see what libraries are being used?

or, how about the question, objects are to libraries, as libraries are to what?

Thanks for any help. I always feel like a real ass when it comes down to doing anything out of day-2-day on this system.

Angela.

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or, how about the question, objects are to libraries, as libraries are to what?

books? there is not really a parent to a library. library is a logical collection of related code and classes.


p.s. have you been dringking?

namaste, motherfucker.

[juanesky 0]

Sorry Angela, but obviously this guy has no clue that you are talking about computers. Will try to see if I could get you the info you are requesting...

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[pds 0]

juan, i know you love me, but i dont think of you in that way.

i have been a professional software engineer for more than 20 years.

when are you going to learn to just STFU?

namaste, motherfucker.

[juanesky 0]

Well, firts, you made no sense whatsoever, incomplete and vague in all your comments, I think is in order that the the one who should GFY is .....U.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Well, firts, you made no sense whatsoever, incomplete and vague in all your comments, I think is in order that the the one who should GFY is .....U.

my answer makes perfect sense and in fact is a, hmmm, dare i say it, FACT.

the reason it seems vague and incomplete is that you are again speaking out of turn to a subject you know nothing of.

i can only imagine that there are more than a few people who are tired of hearing your inane ranting, persistently offensive and flagrant baiting.

go away please.

sorry angela. can give you info on programming philosophy but no direct experience in as400 environment. see above. good luck.

namaste, motherfucker.

[juanesky 0]

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my answer makes perfect sense and in fact is a, hmmm, dare i say it, FACT.

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sorry angela. can give you info on programming philosophy but no direct experience in as400 environment. see above. good luck.

[pds 0]

must not feed the trolls. must not feed the trolls. must not feed the trolls. aggggggggggg, i give up!

namaste, motherfucker.

[VanillaSkyGirl 6]

WTF is going on? Pleae go to your neutral corners, men, before I take off my high heel and beat you both down.

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What an interesting fact. You have no experience in AS400, which she ask for, and I do have, and yet you tell me to learn to STFU....

He answered the part of the question that doesn't require any knowledge specific to AS400. It makes perfect sense to me (8+ years programming). On the other hand, some of your answers to computer related questions in different threads have been, umm, dubious at best.

[prepheckt 0]

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I take off my high heel and beat you both down

That's a fight I would pay to watch...though she is right...hey, everyone just simmer down now..no need for a cyber brawl...should one occur..I'll bust out the popcorn.

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[Kris 0]

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He answered the part of the question that doesn't require any knowledge specific to AS400. It makes perfect sense to me (8+ years programming). On the other hand, some of your answers to computer related questions in different threads have been, umm, dubious at best.

Agreed. PDS's answer made perfect sense to me as an IT guy.

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[pds 0]

jimbo and i seem to have come up with the same hits re: your Q.

take a look at this post.

also- you are going to find that you will get a much more qualified and targeted answer if you ask it in an as400 usenet group.

good luck. i don't envy you. lol.

namaste, motherfucker.

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He answered the part of the question that doesn't require any knowledge specific to AS400. It makes perfect sense to me (8+ years programming). On the other hand, some of your answers to computer related questions in different threads have been, umm, dubious at best.

Agreed. PDS's answer made perfect sense to me as an IT guy.

Me too...and I'm just a bored college student.

"Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet."
-9 toes

[Jimbo 0]

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Agreed. PDS's answer made perfect sense to me as an IT guy.

PDS privided an answer that was probably right had we been talking about programming, but since we're talking about the day to day administration of an AS/400 (A unique beast indeed!), I think that PDS's answer was wrong. I'm not exactly sure what the right answer is, but I'm pretty sure that it's not dealing with libraries as you and I might understand them.

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Jim

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I'm pretty sure that it's not dealing with libraries as you and I might understand them.

duh, when dealing with libraries you need your library card. that HASS to be the problem.

[PhreeZone 20]

You hiring for an AS400 admin?

Most likely what you are wanting to do is going to be WAY too complcated to try and explain in a fourm or even over a email. I can grap one of our AS400 guys and ask but odds are its best to RTFM

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You hiring for an AS400 admin?

Thankfully, no. If I have my way, never.

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Jim

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[happythoughts 0]

I saw the question as "How can I tell which libraries are being used by what region?" A group of compiled programs are kept in test/production libraries.

On MVS, the JCL used to start up the region contains a list of the libraries that it points to. The libraries are also searched in the concatenation sequence. For MVS, the region is assigned to an initiator. Selecting the initiator and browsing the startup deck will tell you which libraries are selected and in what order.

Of course, this is MVS, not AS400, but the concepts sound the same. Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

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On MVS, the JCL used to start up the region contains a list of the libraries that it points to. The libraries are also searched in the concatenation sequence. For MVS, the region is assigned to an initiator. Selecting the initiator and browsing the startup deck will tell you which libraries are selected and in what order.

Oh! Look! Something shiny! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Jim

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Good bye, my friends. You are missed.

[SkydiveNFlorida 0]

Wow! Thanks for everyones help/offers for help! The situation has been rectified. The worst part is what they asked me to do, they found that i'd done a few months ago, and for the life of me I can't remember how I did it, although I do remember doing it. ugh, this is where notes would be handy. I'll look more into it later.

Sorry that this became a flame war. Thx again.
Angela

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So what do you like better . .NET or JAVA

[SkydiveNFlorida 0]

yes, that is the same concept. :) thx.

Angela.

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Agreed. PDS's answer made perfect sense to me as an IT guy.

PDS privided an answer that was probably right had we been talking about programming, but since we're talking about the day to day administration of an AS/400 (A unique beast indeed!), I think that PDS's answer was wrong. I'm not exactly sure what the right answer is, but I'm pretty sure that it's not dealing with libraries as you and I might understand them.

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Jim

actually, jim, here we are dealing with libraries in much the same way as most operating and development environments do. what may be throwing you off is that the code appears (to me, from what i am reading) to be addressed in a sql'ish nature.

unless i am completely offa my rocker, libraries, even in this context, continue to be logical collections of related code and [classes|objects|routines] (depending on the flavor) and specifically in this case, the compiled libraries referenced and utilized by the operating environment.

in regards to the java v .net q: java programmers are still in demand and will continue to be indefinitely. .NET environment is actually a good idea and from my experience tooling around in the various flavors it's platform independance will be much more pronounced that the current java release. i still say that c# is the javakiller. jmho.

namaste, motherfucker.

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p.s. in regards to my previous answer and given the minimal introduction to the concepts given in that usenet post: although libraries appear to be contained within qsys.lib, that relation is implicit, leaving the library as the logical top level container. that was the question i was attempting to address. and yes, you are correct, i was thinking about a development environment. thanks for the constructive disagreement.

somebody who knows what they are talking about tell me to STFU please....

namaste, motherfucker.