mixedup 0 #1 August 17, 2011 I'm going to be absolutely discussing this with my instructors, but interested to hear your comments.... Question: Is a 190 main ok for a novice first rig? So I'm talking a used/2nd hand rig here. I've done 12 jumps so far on a 230. Ie would this step down be om, or too big. The reason I ask about a 190 is that I'm getting the impression there may be more chance of finding one around this size than over 200... No doubt in the process of looking I could still get a few more jumps on the 230 rental gear...or more than a few if recommended. Guess my point here is I'm keen to get off then rental costs earlier rather than later.Parachutist Game IOS Android YouT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 August 17, 2011 depends on : -what your instructor will say -the type of canopy -your weight /wingloadingscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #3 August 17, 2011 Quotedepends on : -what your instructor will say -the type of canopy -your weight /wingloading + the size of the reserve in that rig! ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #4 August 17, 2011 Personnally I would stick to the size you are used to jumping first off. Really from that I would go with your exit weight (wing loading). Dont go over that 1:1 ratio until you have alot more jumps. and then if you ever do go slowly to downsizing. I have always liked the big canopeis Man o war, Manta etc.. at 290 sq ft. Just to always have that extra safety in my landings and all. I got used to them and had not went down. Just my two cents..ken..Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltron80 0 #5 August 17, 2011 I'm sure you can find a 210 pretty easily, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crohnie 0 #6 August 17, 2011 What is your exit weight? Do you fly a predictable pattern? How are your landings? I got a 190 safire2 after getting my A as per the advice of my instructors and have been doing just fine with it. YMMV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mixedup 0 #7 August 17, 2011 Sorry....forgot to mention my weight, which is 81kg/178lb. Pattern is just ok, but not getting within 25m circle regularly. Just getting a good flare in the last couple of jumps. Probably assume for my question I get say upto 20 jumps before wanting to go over to my first 2nd hand rig. Ie so question being what to start looking for, or if a 190 main came up whether to consider this or not.Parachutist Game IOS Android YouT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 August 17, 2011 Quote Sorry....forgot to mention my weight, which is 81kg/178lb. Pattern is just ok, but not getting within 25m circle regularly. Just getting a good flare in the last couple of jumps. Probably assume for my question I get say upto 20 jumps before wanting to go over to my first 2nd hand rig. Ie so question being what to start looking for, or if a 190 main came up whether to consider this or not. From the info provided, I'd say No at this point. Besides that, I noticed from your profile: Jumps: 12 Years: 1 Disciplines: Wing Suit Flying Photographer: Yes Hmmmmmm...Aussies have a unique way of doing things, eh? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mixedup 0 #9 August 17, 2011 lol - didn't see beginner in the profile thing so put wingsuiting :) Ok thanks for the feedback - I'll look for 200+ mains & chat with my instructors. Feels like the right way to go too I think.Parachutist Game IOS Android YouT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #10 August 17, 2011 Quote Hmmmmmm...Aussies have a unique way of doing things, eh? Especially the ones in Oregon."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #11 August 18, 2011 Quote Quote Hmmmmmm...Aussies have a unique way of doing things, eh? Especially the ones in Oregon. WHAT??? Somebody escaped and got as far as Oregon? The English are NOT gonna be happy.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trae 1 #12 August 18, 2011 reply to "I've done 12 jumps so far on a 230. Ie would this step down be om, or too big. " ................................ This is a no brainer. DEFINITELY stick with the 230 you'll have more fun but scare yourself less ..and don't let the second hand market suck you into downsizing way too early . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willi91 0 #13 August 18, 2011 I'm from Denmark, and here you don't get to fly your own rig before 40 jumps and you earn your license (our licenses are a little different, but after 40 jumps and all tests passed, you are allowed to jump without an instructor on the ground). That means that 20 jumps is quite early, in my perspective, to be jumping a 190 size canopy. I'd say stick with gear that easier can let you get away with making mistakes. But again, this is just what I'm used to - but eventhough 40 jumps may seem alot in your standard, i still see people, who could need another 40 jumps before jumping smaller canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites