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I have noticed that there are like 4 or 5 outspoken gay guys here and that's fine. But I never hear from any women who walk on the wild side. Either bi-sexual, bicurious or outright exclusively to only other women. I think these individuals have the right to be outspoken. In any case, I thought I would post a picture that I recieved via email and just felt compelled to copy. Anybody who finds the same serenity in this work of art as I do can respond.
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Another part of that issue is the average straight guy's perception of lesbian women.

Contrary to popular male folklore, they aren't all hot women perpetually frolicking around naked waiting for a "real man" to jump in with them and "turn them" bi.

Not real, ain't gonna happen.

With the comments typically thrown around in these forums, I can completely understand their desire to remain low-key. Same for the homosexual men. I know some are out on the forums, but I'd bet others are here, but not out. Understandable, considering some of the close-mindedness around. Extra kudos to those who are comfortable enough not to care.

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I realize that this is mostly a joke, but it is precisely these kinds of jokes that cause them to stay silent. They are probably afraid that every thread they start will immediately degenerate into the male threesome fantasy.

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I realize that this is mostly a joke, but it is precisely these kinds of jokes that cause them to stay silent. They are probably afraid that every thread they start will immediately degenerate into the male threesome fantasy.


Well said. The actual lesbians that I know/knew (not just the girls making out with other girls for attention) got really sick of guys in the bars asking them all sorts of stupid questions, making lude comments, and acting like morons when they would give each others pecks, hold hands, and show affection to one another.
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I realize that this is mostly a joke, but it is precisely these kinds of jokes that cause them to stay silent. They are probably afraid that every thread they start will immediately degenerate into the male threesome fantasy.


hey I didn't say anything about a joke. Considering that most of time what Jfields said is true (that most of them don't want to play with men), I wonder why I find it so fasinating. In anycase I always have. But since I have a girlfreind on these forums, you can be sure I would not cross the line and say anything sexually intrusive to an outspoken female of the type which I was describing. I just enjoy reading what they have to say or watching what they often in public do.
If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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I don't doubt you and I would find it very interesting to talk to an open lesbian as well. I'm just giving a reason why it's not happening.

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I had a lesbian couple as clients once. They were the absolute coolest folk around. One was a lawyer and the other one her paralegal, and they had the best relationship between them. I found them the neatest house, and they were, after the lawyer got over being the lawyer, very easy clients.

What was fun was the way they'd tease me. I had lots of questions, and because of our relationship, I got to ask them about things. Not about what they did in the bedroom - that's certainly none of my business straight or gay - but what it was like in society, personalities breakdown, and so forth. They'd answer anything I asked, but not because I would say "what's it like being gay", but rather other kinds of questions about the societal aspects and interpersonal things. It was never "ohhhh, you're gay"; I had tons of respect for them as human beings, as people. And because of that, they were comfortable enough for me to talk openly with. But then again, I'd ask them all sorts of other kinds of questions, too, about their careers, their families, their dogs, favorite foods, and so on.

It just doesn't matter if someone is gay or not. When all people see is a person's sexuality, most of the person's attributes are left out. If a person is seen just for their boobs, or just for their packages, and what they do with them, that negates the whole individual. And everyone is far more than who they choose to sleep with, same sex or not.

(And no, I didn't bother to open the attachment)...

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Michele


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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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They are here, there's more then a couple. Some of them I consider good friends.

They keep quiet because the last thing they want is a bunch of horny guys getting all excited.

For gay guys, coming out can be a very empowering experience. For gay women, it's frequently a very annoying experience...

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well like many men, it's quite a fantasy... but I have lesbian friends, several couples, some which are like average, some other really beautiful girls. But once you know the people, I think they are out of your fantasies... I totally respect them, I like them very much.
Most annoying people are so called "straight" who think that what homo, bi etc do is not normal. WTF, let people live their lives.
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