So angry; bloody gangstah wannabes

[vonSanta 0]

Have one as a neighbor. White kid, early twenties. Plays his downloaded Tupac videos at full blast always when he's home.

Since he's white he ain't "real ghetto style" so he has to have pals of African origin. So there's a bunch of wannabe gangstah Somalis there all the time with a vocabulary where 'fuck' appear to exist several times. They're all 'dogs' too and when they're not talking about "gotcha back" they're talking shit about each other, stealing beer, throwing stuff on the floor and stomping (I live in the apartment beneath this white boy).

The Gangstah Badness is sort of lost when the chaps, drunk as skunks, start singing traditional Somali songs, intertwined with a few 'fuck' and 'dog' words here and there. There aren't any ghettos in Denmark but they sure seem hellbent on creating some, since society obviously have let them down by paying all their bills, not setting any requirements for 'em and letting them use the race card at any time. They generally just run around trying (succesfully because they're a mob) to scare people and acting all tough.

Can tell you many stories but won't bother except with this last occurence.
So I'm outside waiting for a friend to pick me up - going to the DZ. I put down my kitbag and sit on the stairs waiting. And they come, loud and obnoxious and pretentious. I ignore 'em. Then one of them opens my kitbag. There's a bit of tension which increases as their English and Danish is so bad they resort to Somali in their attempts to to convince me it's theirs and I have no business with it. Begins to look a bit ugly and I get worried. There's some shuffling as they push me and I stand my ground. It's my sisters rig for chrissakes, can't just leg it. It's getting uglier and uglier, I'm outnumbered big time and not a fighter anyhow and I know some of them got knives and previous convictions for using them. More pushing, one of 'em hits me in the side with a fist.

"Skydive rig, you know jump from plane. Don't touch it, it will open, big poof" I say, which earns me blank stares and a flood of words. More shuffling, an open hand slap to my head as I reach down to try to make them let go. I tellum I don't want a fight. Calls of wuss and whatnot. I don't care; just wanna get outta that situation and fast.

"Parachute. Like Lara Croft jumping from building?" They finally get it when the pilot chute falls out of the BOC while I try to remove their hands. I'm very worried by now - thinking it was a bad idea to say that Croft bit. Maybe they'll want it bad enough now.

Apparently they think that parachutes are cool and they pat me on the back and laugh and do sounds. I kid you not. Then they tell me "get fuck out white boy". I just scoop the kitbag up, close it and walk away. My cell phone is inside my apartment and I end up missing the ride to the DZ and thereby any chances of a few jumps.

Fucking idiots. I hate the fact that these young punks can do what they do. Low life nobody's like them made me apprehensive. And I'm not allowed to own any kind of self defense devices in Denmark. "That's what we're here for" the cops once told me. Like their presence 15 minutes after one has been cut to shreds or had ones arse kicked will help.

I'm so angry right now I'm literally shaking and it's three hours after the incident. They manage to scare the shit outta me and all I can do is call the police which result in absolutely nothing. Anything could have happened. All because they so badly want to be badarse gangstahs. Idiots. I hope they get themselves killed.

Need to vent. Sorry for long post. Just needed to share.

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[katiebear21 0]

And you say you're not an emotional guy! I think you're making real progress!

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So, do you think this is maybe one of the reasons the world hates the U.S. so much?

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[Canuck278 0]

well if it makes you feel any better...just know that people like that don't last too long, and if they do...they don't go anywhere in life...

Steve
Therapy is expensive, popping bubble wrap is cheap.

[Blahr 0]

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So, do you think this is maybe one of the reasons the world hates the U.S. so much?

I hardly think that people wanting to be hard asses is the fault of the US.

We didnt invent violence. We didnt invent assholes.
These things existed LONG before the USA was born

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I hardly think that people wanting to be hard asses is the fault of the US.

We didnt invent violence. We didnt invent assholes.
These things existed LONG before the USA was born

True. But if you look at some of the complaints of middle-eastern (even French) cultures, they frequently cite US mass media and entertainment as having a "bad" influence in their society.

Clearly these little bastards didn't come up with the "gangsta" look and attitude all my themselves.

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[jfields 0]

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(even French) cultures, they frequently cite US mass media and entertainment as having a "bad" influence in their society.

But they like Jerry Lewis. Go figure!

[PhillyKev 0]

Not to hijack, but exactly why I'm glad I have the right and the ability to have a handgun a/k/a equalizer. That could have been much worse, especially if knives started getting pulled out. I've been in similar situations myself living where I do and am glad I have the option to protect myself with a tool that would be useful against multiple, knife-wielding assailants.

[bill2 0]

They may not have come up with the "gangsta look", but the attitude is all their responsability. To say that this is a reason why people hate the US is wrong. These guys that assulted him are simply scumbags, nothing more - to blame it on a particular aspect of US pop culture is misplacing responsibility, which belongs with these guys. You will always have bad guys wherever you go, no matter what kind of culture is available. What about other Somalis who don't subscribe to this kind of behavior? How come they don't act like this?

This incident also points out the fallacy of simply calling the cops when you get in trouble, most of the time they will no be there in time to help you. Many times people are just left to their own devices when it comes to defending themselves against crime.

[WrongWay 0]

God damnit I hate motherfuckers like that!!!!! We have guys like that all over my small town, and they don't like me much, as they seem to think the term "wigga" doesn't fit them. They don't like being called that to their ugly whiteboy faces. My advice is don't let them give you shit. Any time they cause trouble just get up in the white guys face and say something like "Hey dawg, look at your hands." He'll say "Why?" And you say "So you can finally notice you're WHITE." Or if you really wanna piss him off, say something like "Shouldn't you turn off Tupac and turn on Barry Manilow or something??"

Can ya tell the post pissed me off?????

Good luck dealing with these scumbags, and if you need anything, "I got ya back".

Wrong Way
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To say that this is a reason why people hate the US is wrong. These guys that assulted him are simply scumbags, nothing more - to blame it on a particular aspect of US pop culture is misplacing responsibility, which belongs with these guys.

Again, I'm mearly asking the question and not trying to shift blame to the U.S. entertainment industry (me of ALL people)!

That said, I -do- understand why some cultures might want to blame the U.S. entertainment industry.

I don't agree with it either, but I -do- understand it.

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[Harksaw 0]

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Not to hijack, but exactly why I'm glad I have the right and the ability to have a handgun a/k/a equalizer. That could have been much worse, especially if knives started getting pulled out. I've been in similar situations myself living where I do and am glad I have the option to protect myself with a tool that would be useful against multiple, knife-wielding assailants.

I would hate the idea of not having guns, but getting guns involved in the above situation would probably have made it very ugly, because the thugs would most lieky have them too. Although, if they knew he had a gun, they might not have tried it.

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[bill2 0]

I would hate the idea of not having guns, but getting guns involved in the above situation would probably have made it very ugly, because the thugs would most lieky have them too. Although, if they knew he had a gun, they might not have tried it.
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[PhillyKev 0]

I would not have pulled my gun in the above situation unless I was surrounded by them and had no means of retreating (even leaving my gear there). But if they pulled out knives, I'd have the option at least.

[shedao 0]

>Clearly these little bastards didn't come up with the "gangsta" look and attitude all my themselves.

I guess I can understand the viewpoint that US Media has a bad influence on younger folks. But this type of thing has been around long before US media. Punks are punks regardless of where they dwell or the reason they become punks. I bet the very first human settlements had punks.

[Dagny 0]

I've been caught in a situation where I was beat up for no particular reason, just being in the wrong place at the right time for a fight. You can do everything right, respect people, avoid eye contact and still be hassled.

It sounds like you did a really good job getting yourself out of a really difficult situation. There aren't any rules and no formulas to help you walk away. But, you're safe and you walked away and that's all that matters in the end!

I took a concealed handgun class when my ex-boyfriend bought me a sig 40cal. I don't carry it or even have it since I moved to Florida, but I have to wonder if I was really safer with it. I was never sure I could really shoot someone for one thing. Ahh...gun debates..to have or have not. Not sure there is a perfect solution for that.

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[Chute 0]

I went through the same thing. Either call the SUPER and daily complain or call the cops to complain so the super has grounds to through him out.

Here is the way to do it. Always be real nice to them and tell them you have no problems with what they are doing. That way they will think it is another neighbor and leave your stuff and or car alone.

Bottomless Beers and Blue Skies!

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So, do you think this is maybe one of the reasons the world hates the U.S. so much?

Just for arguments sake, say that, yes, it is the reason. What is it that you would do about it if you could?

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What is it that you would do about it if you could?

Well, THAT's an interesting question. As much as I hate censorship, I'm not really sure that as the CEO of a large media company I'd sign and promote groups like these. I'm certain the money/sales are a huge influence, but I also believe that the masses will accept anything you tell them is fashionable.

Just take a look at anything having to do with "disco" and you'll see what I mean.

So, as a major media CEO, I'd maybe promote something a bit more positive and downplay the "gangsta" lifestyle. This wouldn't be censorship, per se, but rather corporate responsibility.

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[happythoughts 0]

The problem seems to be with the glorification of violence as a lifestyle, right?

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Blame it all on my roots
I showed up in boots
And ruined your black tie affair
The last one to know
The last one to show
I was the last one
You thought you'd see there
And I saw the surprise
And the fear in his eyes
When I took his glass of champagne
And I toasted you
Said, honey, we may be through
But you'll never hear me complain

A song that talks of being proud of initimidating the groom at the wedding of an old g/f. That's not exactly a role model either.

The basic problem is the same, but instead of white kids acting like white trash, they are acting like black trash. Perhaps if they watched CMT instead of MTV, people would be happier?

[MikeMcLean 0]

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What is it that you would do about it if you could?

Well, THAT's an interesting question. As much as I hate censorship, I'm not really sure that as the CEO of a large media company I'd sign and promote groups like these.

If you were the CEO of a large media / music company than most likely it is a publicly owned company. In that case, your only responsibility, by definition, is to make money for the shareholders. If you failed to sign a gangsta group on personal principles resulting in lost income/profit you would be violating your fiduciary responsibilities.

It wouldn't hurt you to think like a fucking serial killer every once in a while - just for the sake of prevention

[wildblue 7]

Jesus Bill.. you're stretching a little there Violence? At least use something like "A Boy Named Sue" or "Good bye Earl" "Independence Day" or maybe even "Thunder Rolls"
Country music will be the downfall of society yet...

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

[Tonto 1]

1. The most powerful self defence weapon anyone ever has is their brain. You survived your encounter, maybe even earned some respect. Well Done.

2. "'Fear is the path to the dark side, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate...hate...leads to suffering" Yoda

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It's the year of the Pig.

[quade 4]

Not true!

If the -only- guiding principle for running a company were to make money, my company would stop selling plush toys and start selling munitions. That said, I personally believe that the plush toys have a higher long term profit margin.

Companies -can- be ethically and morally responsible AND make money.

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[PhillyKev 0]

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In that case, your only responsibility, by definition, is to make money for the shareholders.

No, a CEO's job is to adhere to the corporate charter. Typical charters include morality and vision of the company, not just dollar figures. If you're going to invest in a company, you might want to read their charter, it may, in fact be prohibitive as far as profits are concerned.